[nl50] KK strange flushy river - Page 2

if he is valuebetting like that a made flush,his retardedness takes all my money and I can live with it.
These small bets are mostly blockbets imo and he probably has the A of clubs. Easy river raise.

not raising pf really should be an exception.

flop raise = good.

i want:

turn raise
river raise

play for stacks on river. for value against 67, Aj, Ak, jj, 66, 77, A6s, A7s

sure you lose vs flush but doestn look like he has it. (otherwise so be it, its the risk of slowplaying pf)

stacking off on river becomes easier when you raise turn. and i don't know why you didnt. your not even that far behind if he has one of the Ax holdings. which are only part of the range. AcJx is the only hand that reallly crushes you.

ez raising on all streets imo

you can make it something like $20 all the way through shove, anything in that range is good
flatting pf is also somewhat standard against a nit since hes folding all but QQ+ to 3-bets probably, you lose value from his dominated hands hwne you 3-bet him

also for everyone saying raise turn, that's preety bad advice since we have no plan on : if he shoves // if he flats are we shoving river? or checking down? Definatley somewhat silly to assume we can get 2 streets of large value from an unknown nit, I'd much rather raise turn with a bluff

calling and collecting more information about his hand + potentially improving our hand is best

if you're totally lost in these spots then never flat pf. makes the hand 100000000000000x easier to play as it simply plays itself for 100 bbs.

as played i think a value shove here is pretty standard. unless you have some reads that dictate otherwise.

since you guys are still posting occassionally on this one , heres the results:

i dont think i terribly misplayed it based on my opponent sure i could have 3bet pre and he probably just folds idk

and i think postflop was okay, if anything the mistakes were on the river, maybe reraising too small with my set of kings and also maybe as played i could have folded the river shove. because i do remember saying to myself if he shoves river i must fold here.

(yes, i put his range as AcX, maybe some sets, maybe some aces up in particular AcJx and of course the flopped flushes )

anyway this is a days old hand stop damn posting on it, im already like 10k hands of 100nl

Submitted by : rockman255

PokerStars Game #21124481161: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/10/12 0:56:54 ET
Table 'Cuyo' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: lpoolreds ($45.05 in chips)
Seat 3: playbyrules ($29.65 in chips)
Seat 4: taiga ($50.95 in chips)
Seat 5: rockman255 ($71.30 in chips)
Seat 6: WhiteWhale28 ($68.45 in chips)
Seat 8: bubudobakdan ($35.80 in chips)
Seat 9: punki_nav ($20.50 in chips)
bubudobakdan: posts small blind $0.25
punki_nav: posts big blind $0.50

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to rockman255
lpoolreds: folds
playbyrules: folds
taiga: raises $1 to $1.50
rockman255 : calls $1.50
WhiteWhale28: folds
bubudobakdan: folds
punki_nav: folds

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $3.75)

   
taiga: bets $1.50
rockman255 : raises $4.50 to $6
taiga: calls $4.50

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $15.75)

   
taiga: bets $3
rockman255 : calls $3

River (Pot : $21.75)

   
taiga: bets $7
rockman255 : raises $14 to $21
taiga: raises $19.45 to $40.45 and is all-in
rockman255 : calls $19.45

Showdown
taiga: shows (a flush, Ace high)
rockman255 : mucks hand
taiga collected $99.65 from pot

Summary
Total pot $102.65 | Rake $3
Board  
Seat 1: lpoolreds folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: playbyrules folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: taiga showed and won ($99.65) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 5: rockman255 mucked
Seat 6: WhiteWhale28 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: bubudobakdan (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: punki_nav (big blind) folded before Flop

Raise/Fold to shove