Do you believe in God? - Page 4

On October 09 2008 19:43 Floofy wrote: btw i think religion has positive aspects im sure that, if everyone were 100% sure their actions has no impact on afterlife, some people who are currently good people would either be less good or even, evil people they are just scared to be sent to hell im not saying this is the case for everyone, thought

LOL WAKE UP FLOOFY ! CATHOLIC PRIESTS RAPE KIDS IN THE CHURCHS AND GUESS WHAT THEY DO BELIEVE IN GOD.

If a person does good only because he is afraid of punishment that person is not a good person, its just a fearful one.

So religion doesnt make people good, just fearful.

I LOVE GOD. GOD IS GOOD.

nope

don't rule it out completely though.

also, is it sacrilegious if i think chip reese is >>> than PA?

no, I'd agree with u

I do believe in the possibility of a higher life form but nothing like what religions have described to date

On October 09 2008 21:47 Baal wrote: If a person does good only because he is afraid of punishment that person is not a good person, its just a fearful one. So religion doesnt make people good, just fearful.

Agreed 100%, Floofy do you see why your arguments of mother teresa etc. are totally bullshit now?

dont know either
Religion is bullshit i think we all agree on that.Thats the most ridiculous thing man has ever created its an unlimited by any laws power basically... But about someone/thing above us a greater "Force" or wever yeah well who knows

God exists. laugh all you want, but when the day comes when you're near death or lose all hope in life you'll be begging that he does exist. And i hope God will just LOL at your sorry, arrogant, narcisistic assess

catholicism ftw fuckers

On October 09 2008 22:38 PokerDoc88 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 09 2008 21:47 Baal wrote: If a person does good only because he is afraid of punishment that person is not a good person, its just a fearful one. So religion doesnt make people good, just fearful. Agreed 100%, Floofy do you see why your arguments of mother teresa etc. are totally bullshit now?

i realize my argument was kinda wrongly worded, but its still true

religion makes people SCARED to do bad things. so it isnt completly useless

pretty general statements so far. but obviously any deeper points other than the too highly valued opinion,and superficial argument, won't appear in a forum post like this. people that believe one side confirm there belief to themselves, and people who aren't sure, read some posts thinking it helps them to decide.

I don't believe in catholic God, I have been searching for answers since I was a little kid (like many other here, I think).
First I gotta say,believe in God is +EV, you can either believe or not. If you don't believe and he does not exist, you win, but if you don't believe and he exist, prepare for the doomswitch.
But, listenting to the news of priests raping kids, know about all the crimes church has done, makes you a nonbeliever. So the thing is you can't believe in church, but you have to go further. Actually read the entire bible, look for many points of view, do some research. After doing this, you will know that nobody knows a shit, and like the theory said, god can be a flyin spaguetti monster.

It is said that religion brings happiness and confidence, so you can handle the fear of dying. Actually, to believe in something, makes you a more stable person, (believe in no more after life is to believe in something), its in nature of human to think of whats going to happen after life.

There are people that are religious, that believes in god, makes them happy, makes them feel confortable, are they wrong? who cares, because they live their lifes as they want, serving their god, doing good things to their society.

Religions is definitly not bullshit, it teaches kids how to live, to love other, to stay out of trouble; its like a set of rules for a good way of living. The real bullshit is Fanatism, killing people for religion, not doing something you want as dancing (for christianism i.e.) that is what is wrong imo.

As for me, as I'm studying an engeering career, I have to say I don't believe in Jesus, I believe in energy, like I think baal said, energy we are all formed by. I do believe in evolution, since we are a bunch of donks raising KT OOP.

Dr. House said something I really liked when he was asked "so you feel confortable by thinking there is nothing after life, this is it?"-----"no, I like to think that life is not only a test"

On October 09 2008 20:29 lebowski wrote: the Big Bang, a generally accepted theory on the creation of the universe by most scientists today, involves both time and space to be created with it.

I know this is kind of a lot to ask, but do you happen to have a source for this claim?

I skimmed through this book by hawking long ago and if I remember correctly he said something along the lines of "it wouldn't be useful to record history before there was anything around, so we can just say that time started when the big bang occured" That's different from what you're saying imo

also about what you said of "the space is getting larger as galaxies move farther apart" is confusing to me.. I imagine an infinite space that already was infinite from the start but just the objects in it are moving farther apart - is this wrong?

On October 09 2008 20:17 JoeDeertay wrote: I'm not really sure, tbh. I mean, the universe is so massively complex that I can't really see it being all put together by some uber explosion somewhere, and even if that were true then how did the thing that blew up get there in the first place? It all had to start somewhere....too bad it is impossible for humans to comprehend such a universal beginning and explain it.

this is the same argument SfydjkLm brought up.. it's natural to believe that but this way of thinking has actually been thoroughly debunked

please watch some richard dawkins videos on youtube! people bring up this argument constantly vs him and he patiently debunks it again and again, you will gain so much from doing this or reading his book "the god delusion"

richard dawkins and his books are its own religion, with its own set of followers.

god, haven't you seen south park?

On October 10 2008 00:14 p4ge wrote: richard dawkins and his books are its own religion, with its own set of followers.

well he doesn't have to get his info from dawkins but just that "it's too complex it couldn't just spawn" argument that keeps popping up is no longer relevant thats all im trying to share


it already popped up twice here on LP i really think a shit ton of people worldwide believe in God only because of this one debunked reason

On October 09 2008 21:47 Baal wrote: If a person does good only because he is afraid of punishment that person is not a good person, its just a fearful one. So religion doesnt make people good, just fearful.

if it works it works. religion has probably played a positive part overall in human history

yes

i believe in the development of the human soul, which is eternal