Italy Poker Ban

I just got an email from stars(I think it was for affiliates only) saying no Italy players are no longer allowed to play real money. This is worse than the US, I mean, we just can't deposit easily, but for Italian players, they are not allowed. Or maybe everyone knew this and I was living in a cave. idk

I hope it aint true, I know some terrible italian regs :_(

Everyone in Italy is poor anyways, we'll lose 15 players from stars, te economy might be good but the average person there isn't very rich.

i dont know about the people in italy pav but actually i think italy is a rich country

Whattttttttttttttttttt

Please give me back Italian degens..

fuck, this sucks

i dont think i've ever recognised anyone playing from italy, only person i can think of is dario minieri

sucks for them thoug =(

Italy is like the 7th biggest economy in the world. Bad news.
US
Japan
China
Germany
UK
France
Italy

you forgot canada for the 8th ;o)

Actually G7 is with Canada not China. But he didnt say G7 so I guess its all right

On September 08 2008 07:37 mrpav.com wrote: Everyone in Italy is poor anyways, we'll lose 15 players from stars,

why are you so fucking dumb

On September 08 2008 08:32 Twisted wrote: Show nested quote + On September 08 2008 07:37 mrpav.com wrote: Everyone in Italy is poor anyways, we'll lose 15 players from stars, why are you so fucking dumb

hes a nurse

On September 08 2008 07:37 mrpav.com wrote: Everyone in Italy is poor anyways, we'll lose 15 players from stars,

UHMWHAT ?

gg Dario

On September 08 2008 08:36 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote: Show nested quote + On September 08 2008 08:32 Twisted wrote:   On September 08 2008 07:37 mrpav.com wrote: Everyone in Italy is poor anyways, we'll lose 15 players from stars, why are you so fucking dumb hes a male nurse

any links, news about that? <curious>

lol?

And just few days ago there was a info about online poker being finally legalised in Italy? ;o

how is Canada not higher on that list?

online poker is banned in italy, pokerstars.com and every other pokersite is not accessible for italians.. i was there last month and couldnt download pokerstars if i needed to but i still could play on my laptop

i guess now that is impossible too

in ~march some friends of mine were in San Remo and they couldn't open any pokerroom site


edit: oh so as #19 says

they will cancel it, the UE will not allow this ban

So Minieri can't play?

Well, not from Itally I guess.

There goes my dream of living in Milan

ughhhhh italians are honestly the worst players ever and it's not even close

On September 08 2008 10:09 tomson wrote: So Minieri can't play?

he can play, but if he uninstalls PS from his computer someone will have to e-mail him PS installer :D ( or am i mistaken? )

On September 08 2008 10:29 SneakrFreakr wrote: ughhhhh italians are honestly the worst players ever and it's not even close

hmmm, im voting for french! except elky but he is not human

On September 08 2008 10:36 MysticJoey wrote: Show nested quote + On September 08 2008 10:29 SneakrFreakr wrote: ughhhhh italians are honestly the worst players ever and it's not even close hmmm, im voting for french! except elky but he is not human

http://europe.cardplayer.com/poker-news/article/online-poker-kicks-off-in-italy

looks to me like Italy banned online poker a long time ago and is now making first steps towards legalizing it.
So,guys,calm down.

Yeah, like WTF, I searched it and it's supposed to be banned back in 2006 and since 1 January 2007 it's supposed to be legalized. At least, I read several aritcles stating this and not it being bad as of recently...

On September 08 2008 07:37 mrpav.com wrote: Everyone in Italy is poor anyways, we'll lose 15 players from stars,

Ignorance at its best

On September 08 2008 08:32 Twisted wrote: Show nested quote + On September 08 2008 07:37 mrpav.com wrote: Everyone in Italy is poor anyways, we'll lose 15 players from stars, why are you so fucking dumb

Get an education, then say statements like that, did you even do anything after high school or you jsut sit at home and run your mouth?

no italians here?

On September 08 2008 12:33 mrpav.com wrote: Show nested quote + On September 08 2008 08:32 Twisted wrote:   On September 08 2008 07:37 mrpav.com wrote: Everyone in Italy is poor anyways, we'll lose 15 players from stars, why are you so fucking dumb Get an education, then say statements like that, did you even do anything after high school or you jsut sit at home and run your mouth?

Lemmey chip in by saying that settling for the second best option after not being able to become a doctor is very respectable.

lol pav you're dumb
the more unstable the economy, the MORE people gamble, not less

On September 09 2008 02:34 Muhweli wrote: Show nested quote + On September 08 2008 12:33 mrpav.com wrote:   On September 08 2008 08:32 Twisted wrote:   On September 08 2008 07:37 mrpav.com wrote: Everyone in Italy is poor anyways, we'll lose 15 players from stars, why are you so fucking dumb Get an education, then say statements like that, did you even do anything after high school or you jsut sit at home and run your mouth? Lemmey chip in by saying that settling for the second best option after not being able to become a doctor is very respectable.

What ? I still see tons of dumb italians on all the sites I play : D

On September 09 2008 02:37 sOah wrote: lol pav you're dumb the more unstable the economy, the MORE people gamble, not less

Oooh, wait, so you are saying that a worse and unstable world economy (since almost all economies all over the world aren't doing too great lately) might very well be very good for the overall poker economy because people will start gambling and shit to try and get some EZ money or forget their problems ??

On September 09 2008 04:29 VanDerMeyde wrote: What ? I still see tons of dumb italians on all the sites I play : D

Refer teh people!

And as someone already stated I doubt EU will allow this.

On September 09 2008 05:48 Kilay wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2008 02:37 sOah wrote: lol pav you're dumb the more unstable the economy, the MORE people gamble, not less Oooh, wait, so you are saying that a worse and unstable world economy (since almost all economies all over the world aren't doing too great lately) might very well be very good for the overall poker economy because people will start gambling and shit to try and get some EZ money or forget their problems ??

yea I guess lol

On September 09 2008 05:50 sOah wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2008 05:48 Kilay wrote:   On September 09 2008 02:37 sOah wrote: lol pav you're dumb the more unstable the economy, the MORE people gamble, not less Oooh, wait, so you are saying that a worse and unstable world economy (since almost all economies all over the world aren't doing too great lately) might very well be very good for the overall poker economy because people will start gambling and shit to try and get some EZ money or forget their problems ?? yea I guess lol

May sound harsh but that'd be fucking awesome hehe.

On September 08 2008 12:33 mrpav.com wrote: Show nested quote + On September 08 2008 08:32 Twisted wrote:   On September 08 2008 07:37 mrpav.com wrote: Everyone in Italy is poor anyways, we'll lose 15 players from stars, why are you so fucking dumb Get an education, then say statements like that, did you even do anything after high school or you jsut sit at home and run your mouth?

That's quite funny coming from someone who's trying to become a fricken nurse. I value my education (bachelor's degree in civil engineering) a tad higher than that. Can someone perm-ban this idiot already? Jesus.

how can that be related to Tom.

Im pretty sure their mom is convinced that the second one was a tumor.

Ah Pav, if only you could see the irony in your posts.

fwiw my wife is Italian and she freaking sucks at poker

its actually get more legalized in italy apparently

On September 09 2008 06:01 Kilay wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2008 05:50 sOah wrote:   On September 09 2008 05:48 Kilay wrote:   On September 09 2008 02:37 sOah wrote: lol pav you're dumb the more unstable the economy, the MORE people gamble, not less Oooh, wait, so you are saying that a worse and unstable world economy (since almost all economies all over the world aren't doing too great lately) might very well be very good for the overall poker economy because people will start gambling and shit to try and get some EZ money or forget their problems ?? yea I guess lol May sound harsh but that'd be fucking awesome hehe.

It is actually the truth, desperate times call for desperate people.

On September 09 2008 11:31 Highcard wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2008 06:01 Kilay wrote:   On September 09 2008 05:50 sOah wrote:   On September 09 2008 05:48 Kilay wrote:   On September 09 2008 02:37 sOah wrote: lol pav you're dumb the more unstable the economy, the MORE people gamble, not less Oooh, wait, so you are saying that a worse and unstable world economy (since almost all economies all over the world aren't doing too great lately) might very well be very good for the overall poker economy because people will start gambling and shit to try and get some EZ money or forget their problems ?? yea I guess lol May sound harsh but that'd be fucking awesome hehe. It is actually the truth, desperate times call for desperate people.

i gamble to forget my financial problems here in the philippines.

every liquidpoker thread about economics is just full of people spouting shit about stuff they don't know lewl

Okay guys, it seems there're no italians on this sait, so I will have to step in and say my opinion as an almost permanent resident in Italy.

I study in Milan for about an year now and since the very beginning I wasn't able to open any gambling related saits. I had to ask friends from back home to send me installers and stuff. However once installation is complete, there are NO problems. I spoke to other italians who play poker and they confirmed, the only problem is in downloading the poker client. Indeed, they are trying to legalize and remove the restriction but for the time being, no italian resident can browse any poker saits (since 01.01.2007 I think).

To be 100% sure, I have just logged on Pokerstars with my account which is registered with an italian address and there were no problems. It even allowed me to deposit money.

So, calm down, we are not gonna lose the italian fishes. xD

On September 09 2008 12:23 n1ck wrote: Okay guys, it seems there're no italians on this sait, so I will have to step in and say my opinion as an almost permanent resident in Italy. I study in Milan for about an year now and since the very beginning I wasn't able to open any gambling related saits. I had to ask friends from back home to send me installers and stuff. However once installation is complete, there are NO problems. I spoke to other italians who play poker and they confirmed, the only problem is in downloading the poker client. Indeed, they are trying to legalize and remove the restriction but for the time being, no italian resident can browse any poker saits (since 01.01.2007 I think). To be 100% sure, I have just logged on Pokerstars with my account which is registered with an italian address and there were no problems. It even allowed me to deposit money. So, calm down, we are not gonna lose the italian fishes. xD

you WILL lose the fish, you won't lose the regs. Fish is stupid enough not to figured out how to dl and they simply won't bother

You won't lose anyting because they didn't change anything. Who was able to play before will continue to be able to play now. Don't panic jesus, nothing happened.

On September 09 2008 12:09 Critterer wrote: every liquidpoker thread about economics is just full of people spouting shit about stuff they don't know lewl

I am not saying I know anything about any of it but please tell us what is right then. I mean, I'd expect it this way: world economy worse --> poker economy worse... but some people seem to disagree here and you can say loads of things, but they do make things sound good.

lol who's in panic? fish come and go, and this circle will disappear since *new* fish won't figure out how to deposit

wtf is going on in this thread

italy just allowed players to play on a specific site

On September 09 2008 06:02 Twisted wrote: Show nested quote + On September 08 2008 12:33 mrpav.com wrote:   On September 08 2008 08:32 Twisted wrote:   On September 08 2008 07:37 mrpav.com wrote: Everyone in Italy is poor anyways, we'll lose 15 players from stars, why are you so fucking dumb Get an education, then say statements like that, did you even do anything after high school or you jsut sit at home and run your mouth? That's quite funny coming from someone who's trying to become a fricken nurse. I value my education (bachelor's degree in civil engineering) a tad higher than that. Can someone perm-ban this idiot already? Jesus.

I wish you 1 year of bad luck twisted!

On September 09 2008 13:44 ggplz wrote: wtf is going on in this thread italy just allowed players to play on a specific site

yeah... i think when they (italian govt.) said that online poker was legalized i think they meant playing in an italian site controlled by the government...


http://europe.cardplayer.com/poker-news/article/online-poker-kicks-off-in-italy


Gioco Digitale Paved the Way with First Real-Money Online Cash Game Yesterday

With the seal of approval from Italy’s gaming authority AAMS, virtual cards were shuffled up, and real-money games played out for the first time on Italian licensed website Gioco Digitale yesterday afternoon. GamblingCompliance.com today reported that two tables with buy-ins of €0.50 kicked things off, with 18 enthusiasts reserving their seats in six seconds, and completing the games in 90-minutes.

President of Gioco Digitale Carlo Gualandri said that the company was very satisfied to be the first operators in Italy to offer real-money poker. With hopes for what this could now mean for the industry, he later added that over the past few months the company processed 50 million play-money hands of poker in 1.5 million tournaments.

As real money online poker can now make its first appearance on Italian gaming sites, expectations are high, with the government speaking of the business being worth €400 million in its first 12 months.

Poker sites are sure to be launched in abundance as interest grows in the Italian online gaming industry. Market leader SNAI has promised that its real-money version will be up and running in October.

seriously
no source, no screenshot
just 2 pages of total bs

Copied from email

Italian Players

Due to the current legal situation in Italy, PokerStars are no longer
offering a real money client to new players signing up that reside in
Italy. We are only offering a play money client to residents of Italy.

Italians outside Italy will still have access to the real money client, as
will all players that have already signed up.

nooooooooo
i really liked table selecting players from italy

On September 09 2008 23:19 zodion wrote: nooooooooo i really liked table selecting players from italy

haha i know what u mean

thank god theres no german ban

yeah I always found italians and australians were good to play against.

Now I just seem to be playing scandi's

On September 09 2008 14:09 mrpav.com wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2008 06:02 Twisted wrote:   On September 08 2008 12:33 mrpav.com wrote:   On September 08 2008 08:32 Twisted wrote:   On September 08 2008 07:37 mrpav.com wrote: Everyone in Italy is poor anyways, we'll lose 15 players from stars, why are you so fucking dumb Get an education, then say statements like that, did you even do anything after high school or you jsut sit at home and run your mouth? That's quite funny coming from someone who's trying to become a fricken nurse. I value my education (bachelor's degree in civil engineering) a tad higher than that. Can someone perm-ban this idiot already? Jesus. I wish you 1 year of bad luck twisted!

Wish him 10 days of bad luck, was enough for TheAshman.

My guess is that this is probably only going to temporarily, to get the license. If they don't obey their law then they won't get licensed. So we have to sacrifise some italian fish now, for a big flood coming in later.

poor dariominieri lol
he gotta move out there

On September 08 2008 08:21 KwarK wrote: Italy is like the 7th biggest economy in the world. Bad news. US Japan China Germany UK France Italy

I dont see Russia , India and Brazil in your list and I think all of them are ahead of Italy

On September 10 2008 05:21 ChromaX wrote: Show nested quote + On September 08 2008 08:21 KwarK wrote: Italy is like the 7th biggest economy in the world. Bad news. US Japan China Germany UK France Italy I dont see Russia , India and Brazil in your list and I think all of them are ahead of Italy

They aren't
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

That list is surely not what you think it is.....US at #11 mmmmm

California would be about 7th if I remember correctly (if it were a country) and Italy is a pretty poor country (per capita for Europe) so i think some screwed up figures being used here....let me do some hunting and I'll try to post something useful rather than this ramble.

GPD Per capita

This is more relevant as it's loosely average bucks per person.....

#1: Luxembourg
#2: Norway
#3: Qatar
#4: Iceland
#5: Ireland
#6: Switzerland
#7: Denmark
#8: Sweden
#9: Finland
#10: Netherlands
#11: USA
#12: UK
#13: Austria
#14: Canada

Seems about right, only one that I didn't expect to be in the top 10 was Ireland :o