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omg TSLto

wow what? now say you all don't fear aliens too?

On September 09 2008 10:19 GsOne wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2008 08:07 Sheitan wrote:   On September 08 2008 23:56 milkman wrote: will someone answer my quesion? and id just like to personally thank sheitan for all his helpfull input on this thread. Uou can't see a black hole for obvious reasons, since they actually "absorb" everything including light Hawking stated in brief history of time, that if quantum physics is corrent, black holes should shine (emit energy), and probably even more than stars. This would be created by spontanoeus creation of photon-anti photon pairs that would normally anihilate moments after, however if the anti-photon pases the events horizon while photon stays on 'our' side of the universe, it should look as energy emiter from outside. Also, the effect would be quite significant, and by absorbing anti-anything, black hole would lower it's mass, possibly even disappearing after some time.

I have a solid physics background but not to that point im afraid, i read some interesting articles about "White Fountains" and the theory about "time travelling" but i think im 10 years of school short to debate about this... This stuff is VERY interesting and i wonder what thoses scientists will find during the experiments they gonna run, this is exciting.

I really doubt that Swiss the most neutral harmless country would agree to this if there was any real chance of some bigass mistake that d destroy the planet or something like that.TSLto lal "destroy the universe" what ? :D You know there is a countless numers black holes in the universe right? & lol of fearing aliens.Most people are just too ignorant and think we r alone in the whole fuckin world ... are u fuckin serious woot ? People are mostly scared coz of the movies with lil green people which is just ridiculous srsly...If someone wanted to invade us we d be gone long time ago imo Anyway getting back to the main theme there is great hope about learning new epic stuff from this project if it does run properly i hope they find out something that was worth the risk .... otherwise it was a pleasure posting in this forum see u in the black hole :D

whatever

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Definitely not a rickroll btw.

On September 09 2008 09:41 TSLto wrote: i say we are living in a very modern world which has almost everything and we can live happy with what we have NOW. if we don't count the first and the second world war, nothing is threaten to destroy the whole world like that 'experiment'. and even after the world wars,in the worst case scenario there would still exist human life. now we are talking about not only destroying an continent or the planet, but the whole universe, the whole world. risk is NOT justifiable even if the chance of 'fail' was 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% and i'm sure it's much higher.

I think ignoring third world countries completely is the way to go here, it works on jehovas witnesses when they come ring my doorbell, amirite guise?

On September 09 2008 13:05 Sjorris wrote: http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/ Definitely not a rickroll btw.

LLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLL

would you really believe the 6000 scientists involved in this to be moronic madmen?

creating a black hole and what that could possibly lead to, people who start these doomsday prophecies really have no clue. the amount of energy created in these collisions is gonna be huge, but not close to the amounts created all the time in the atmosphere.

people of course will always catch on to these theories due to man's general fear of not being in control. that's scary I admit.
like, come on, some guys preach about Jesus and 2000 years later we still go up early each sunday to sing in his glory! that's fear=]

Some people in 3rd world countries get on a boat and try to escape from their governments to the free world. Or just because of a better "free" life on the other side (EX: the whole Berlin wall deal during cold war). Lots and lots of people died and are dying trying to live a better life. Many people get executed on daily basis trying to gain freedom for their kids/country men.
IMO this is the same thing. Finding the truth worth dying for sometimes. There is risk with EVERY experiment done. Its always been like that and it will be. The bigger the goal the bigger the risk.


Using this machine we can prove facts that will change the life/view of many.

Does finding the truth about some scientific theory talking about the very basics of our existence worth putting the whole planet and all the lives at risk?
Absolutely yes! But thats just my opinion.

Putting the whole world at risk should probably not be decided by the scientists aloone tho =O (majority vote would probably not agree with capaneo)

However, is this such a risk? =/

I saw Sheitan mention Einstein above, theory of relativity is pretty wicked hard to grasp (I don't come close).
I work at a company doing computer systems etc for satellites, it's kind of cool that the satellites have to be compensated for time going slower in the satellites (as observed from earth - theory of relativity) than on earth itself. Otherwise they would navigate way off =o

from what ive seen and read this isnt really a risk at all. They are sure they cant create a black hole.. if thye do by accident, which is the .0000000000000000000000001% chance.. then the thing will disappear rly fast.. not swallow the earth.

On September 09 2008 10:38 tapatapaz wrote: omg TSLto

On September 09 2008 13:37 capaneo wrote: Some people in 3rd world countries get on a boat and try to escape from their governments to the free world. Or just because of a better "free" life on the other side (EX: the whole Berlin wall deal during cold war). Lots and lots of people died and are dying trying to live a better life. Many people get executed on daily basis trying to gain freedom for their kids/country men. IMO this is the same thing. Finding the truth worth dying for sometimes. There is risk with EVERY experiment done. Its always been like that and it will be. The bigger the goal the bigger the risk. Using this machine we can prove facts that will change the life/view of many. Does finding the truth about some scientific theory talking about the very basics of our existence worth putting the whole planet and all the lives at risk? Absolutely yes! But thats just my opinion.

You mean religion ? It won't change anything, even if we prove by 2+2 god doesn't exist, these nutcases will keep killing the crap of each others in the name of "God"

On September 09 2008 13:55 milkman wrote: from what ive seen and read this isnt really a risk at all. They are sure they cant create a black hole.. if thye do by accident, which is the .0000000000000000000000001% chance.. then the thing will disappear rly fast.. not swallow the earth.

AT LAST!

On September 09 2008 13:44 Daaman wrote: Putting the whole world at risk should probably not be decided by the scientists aloone tho =O (majority vote would probably not agree with capaneo)

Yeah, let million(s? billion?) people without a clue decide, don't listen to few thousand guys who dedicated their lives for studying this problem. Democracy at it's best.

While Oppenheimer and co were developing the Manhatten project there was some concern that the detonation of an atomic bomb would ignite the hydrogen in the atmosphere and turn Earth into a fireball, annihiliating every living organism in seconds. They did it anyway.

Moral of the story: Scientists are reckless motherfuckers. Cross your fingers, kiddies.

oh

i say we are living in a very modern world which has almost everything and we can live happy with what we have NOW. if we don't count the first and the second world war, nothing is threaten to destroy the whole world like that 'experiment'. and even after the world wars,in the worst case scenario there would still exist human life. now we are talking about not only destroying an continent or the planet, but the whole universe, the whole world. risk is NOT justifiable even if the chance of 'fail' was 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% and i'm sure it's much higher.

you're obviously wrong about this.

edit: just read his first post, suppose there's no need to respond to him anymore.

How does the 'some concern' in your example not equate to anything but the uneducated 'some concern' in this one or am I being levelled?

And they wanted to kill a fuckload of civilians anyway, surely even more is a bonus.