400nl fr fold set on flop?

Submitted by : rossi094

PokerStars Game #20203475497: Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2008/09/06 19:54:00 ET
Table 'Fragaria III' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: EurekaKid ($733.70 in chips)
Seat 2: PlayAlarico ($394 in chips)
Seat 3: Lotto13 ($154 in chips)
Seat 4: krischnumani ($396 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero ($545.20 in chips)
Seat 7: fripotin ($411.60 in chips)
Seat 8: bundesmiro ($372.85 in chips)
Seat 9: Popo7ich ($383.25 in chips)
krischnumani: posts small blind $2
Hero : posts big blind $4
noobelf: sits out

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
fripotin: folds
bundesmiro: raises $8 to $12
Popo7ich: calls $12
EurekaKid: calls $12
PlayAlarico: folds
Lotto13: folds
krischnumani: calls $10
Hero : calls $8

Flop (Pot : $60.00)

   
krischnumani: checks
Hero : checks
bundesmiro: checks
Popo7ich: bets $40
EurekaKid: folds
krischnumani: raises $84 to $124
Hero : folds
bundesmiro: folds
Popo7ich: calls $84

Turn (Pot : $308.00)

   
krischnumani: bets $260 and is all-in
Popo7ich: folds
Uncalled bet ($260) returned to krischnumani
krischnumani collected $305 from pot
krischnumani: doesn't show hand

Summary
Total pot $308 | Rake $3
Board  
Seat 1: EurekaKid folded on the Flop
Seat 2: PlayAlarico folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Lotto13 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: krischnumani (small blind) collected ($305)
Seat 5: Hero (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: fripotin folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: bundesmiro folded on the Flop
Seat 9: Popo7ich folded on the Turn

yes nh

Ack...

Folding Sets

__ERROR__

DOES

NOT

COMPUTE

Good fold I think.

wtf... unless that guy is some sick nit i am never folding here... LOL

FR is so fucking nitty

nh

if you're not folding on the flop why are you folding the turn?
edit: btw i dont play this high, im honestly curious about the play here

On September 07 2008 00:14 jase wrote: if you're not folding on the flop why are you folding the turn? edit: btw i dont play this high, im honestly curious about the play here

i did fold flop you misread yes

im pretty curious about this hand, what info do u have on the 2 players?

bundesmiro: raises $8 to $12
Popo7ich: calls $12
EurekaKid: calls $12
PlayAlarico: folds
Lotto13: folds
krischnumani: calls $10
Hero : calls $8

4 guys call with implied odds type hands (low pocket pairs, suited connectors usually)

krischnumani: checks
Hero : checks
bundesmiro: checks
Popo7ich: bets $40
EurekaKid: folds
krischnumani: raises $84 to $124

one set miner fires $40, small blind check raises a 4way pot to $120

dont think 44 is ever good here

wtf wobbly aren't you meant to be a good FR player or something
this looks like a super duper standard fold

Folding Sets....

__ERROR__

STILL

DOES

NOT

COMPUTE

I've folded top set top kicker in a 4-bet pot before, just ask Ket

pff easy fold, 55 is prolly breakeven here and 66 is obv a call.

yea i didnt notice the 456 i just kept looking at the suits and the Q, next time just post the flop.. but yea i think fold is def good here. (not that it matters)

question: if we had 66 here for top set, is it better to shove, or call? i am guessing shove is better

On September 07 2008 03:25 lachlan wrote: question: if we had 66 here for top set, is it better to shove, or call? i am guessing shove is better

leading would be best most of the time imo but as played shove is def better

I never fold set on this board
just get stacked and move on

FOLDING IS FOR PUSSYS

On September 07 2008 03:06 sOah wrote: I've folded top set top kicker in a 4-bet pot before, just ask Ket

dont you mean top trips?

I think popo had a over pair 9's/10's, and the re-raiser flopped the nuts straight (87) or top set. He was playing it so fast obviously protecting something on this EXTRA draw heavy board. The pot had 4 people in it calling for implied odds with low/med PP's and suited connects, I really think 44 is no good here FR iMO.

On September 07 2008 02:49 sOah wrote: wtf wobbly aren't you meant to be a good FR player or something this looks like a super duper standard fold

LOL go burn away ur blinds more u fucking nit. LOL

On September 07 2008 18:03 wobbly_au wrote: Show nested quote + On September 07 2008 02:49 sOah wrote: wtf wobbly aren't you meant to be a good FR player or something this looks like a super duper standard fold LOL go burn away ur blinds more u fucking nit. LOL

wat

this wouldn't by any chance have anything to do with you thinking that I'm soah2 on Stars would it? sorry to rain on your parade but I rape that clown

FR is so ridiculously funny

folding sets OMG

in full ring if you play your 2 pair or draws strong, you get people to fold sets

well this is what happens if you don't fold sets ...


Submitted by : whamm!

PokerStars Game #20237284936: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/09/08 0:53:23 ET
Table 'Galvarino' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: PeaceDeath ($26.65 in chips)
Seat 2: chilli_nz ($122.80 in chips)
Seat 3: schoon44 ($59 in chips)
Seat 4: ON EMPTY ($104.05 in chips)
Seat 5: peter rose17 ($68.55 in chips)
Seat 6: Evangeleon ($100.30 in chips)
Seat 7: Hero ($243.05 in chips)
Seat 8: roberlander ($94 in chips)
Seat 9: ACTIONJACK21 ($112.10 in chips)
ACTIONJACK21: posts small blind $0.50
PeaceDeath: posts big blind $1

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero
Hero said, "nice squeeze heh"
chilli_nz: folds
schoon44: folds
ON EMPTY: raises $3 to $4
peter rose17: calls $4
Evangeleon: folds
Hero : calls $4
roberlander: calls $4
ACTIONJACK21: calls $3.50
PeaceDeath: folds

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $21.00)

   
ACTIONJACK21: checks
ON EMPTY: bets $14
peter rose17: folds
Hero : calls $14
roberlander: calls $14
ACTIONJACK21: folds

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $63.00)

   
ON EMPTY: bets $40
Hero : raises $92 to $132
roberlander: folds
ON EMPTY: calls $46.05 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($45.95) returned to Hero

River (Pot : $235.10)

   

Showdown
ON EMPTY: shows (three of a kind, Sixes)
Hero : mucks hand
ON EMPTY collected $232.10 from pot

Summary
Total pot $235.10 | Rake $3
Board  
Seat 1: PeaceDeath (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: chilli_nz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: schoon44 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: ON EMPTY showed and won ($232.10) with three of a kind, Sixes
Seat 5: peter rose17 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Evangeleon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Hero mucked
Seat 8: roberlander (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 9: ACTIONJACK21 (small blind) folded on the Flop

this is why i don't touch fullring

lol way to be results oriented.

On September 08 2008 06:02 wobbly_au wrote: lol way to be results oriented.

way to ignore what I said earlier
???

check folding flop here is bad imo. im all for folding sets in some spots but if im oop here im leading close to pot with the intention of going broke on flop or a safe turn.

whamm i dunno if ur being sarcastic or what but your hand is super standard to stack off (I would call again on the turn tho) and the OP hand is a pretty easy fold .A fr nit is never raising a naked fd there, against 7cxc we are 60% and thats basically best case scenario imo.

On September 07 2008 03:12 EvilSky wrote: pff easy fold, 55 is prolly breakeven here and 66 is obv a call.

LOL, nice joke sir...

oi, this is a clear fold! any fr regulars here, name one hand u play the same way as the guy who raised that is beaten by 44

agree with venom

On September 07 2008 17:41 VENOM wrote: I think popo had a over pair 9's/10's, and the re-raiser flopped the nuts straight (87) or top set. He was playing it so fast obviously protecting something on this EXTRA draw heavy board. The pot had 4 people in it calling for implied odds with low/med PP's and suited connects, I really think 44 is no good here FR iMO.

but all the solid regs at 6max here say go broke... I r pokerBoT

most 6-max regs were really good full ring players before they started playing 6-max... full ring is a easier game

i dont think you realize what kind of read you need to fold a set, posting a hand with no relevant information just HH and asking if we should fold a set is really stupid

On September 08 2008 13:54 TalentedTom wrote: i dont think you realize what kind of read you need to fold a set, posting a hand with no relevant information just HH and asking if we should fold a set is really stupid

this.

On September 07 2008 23:08 whamm! wrote: well this is what happens if you don't fold sets ... Submitted by : whamm! PokerStars Game #20237284936: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/09/08 0:53:23 ET Table 'Galvarino' 9-max Seat #8 is the button Seat 1: PeaceDeath ($26.65 in chips) Seat 2: chilli_nz ($122.80 in chips) Seat 3: schoon44 ($59 in chips) Seat 4: ON EMPTY ($104.05 in chips) Seat 5: peter rose17 ($68.55 in chips) Seat 6: Evangeleon ($100.30 in chips) Seat 7: Hero ($243.05 in chips) Seat 8: roberlander ($94 in chips) Seat 9: ACTIONJACK21 ($112.10 in chips) ACTIONJACK21: posts small blind $0.50 PeaceDeath: posts big blind $1 Holecards(Odds) Dealt to Hero Hero said, "nice squeeze heh" chilli_nz: folds schoon44: folds ON EMPTY: raises $3 to $4 peter rose17: calls $4 Evangeleon: folds Hero : calls $4 roberlander: calls $4 ACTIONJACK21: calls $3.50 PeaceDeath: folds Flop(Odds) (Pot : $21.00)     ACTIONJACK21: checks ON EMPTY: bets $14 peter rose17: folds Hero : calls $14 roberlander: calls $14 ACTIONJACK21: folds Turn(Odds) (Pot : $63.00)     ON EMPTY: bets $40 Hero : raises $92 to $132 roberlander: folds ON EMPTY: calls $46.05 and is all-in Uncalled bet ($45.95) returned to Hero River (Pot : $235.10)     Showdown ON EMPTY: shows (three of a kind, Sixes) Hero : mucks hand ON EMPTY collected $232.10 from pot Summary Total pot $235.10 | Rake $3 Board   Seat 1: PeaceDeath (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 2: chilli_nz folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: schoon44 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: ON EMPTY showed and won ($232.10) with three of a kind, Sixes Seat 5: peter rose17 folded on the Flop Seat 6: Evangeleon folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: Hero mucked Seat 8: roberlander (button) folded on the Turn Seat 9: ACTIONJACK21 (small blind) folded on the Flop

Your example has nothing in common with the situation in the OP thread....wtf

that was kinda a level or some sort. why so srs? lol
sorry guys for the confusion, just so happend i got a similar 44 bottomset hand, had that feeling again i was beat coz pf reg/nit raiser lead twice against ME in a multiway pot when i have position on the guy.


and what the fuck. im not the OP here, and i went broke with my set. so im not at fault imo hehe

lol whamm

ur hand is a fair bit different tho, since the guy who you get it in against is the original raiser, and he could have AA, KK, AQ, heaps of shit that u beat

in the OP its different since two set miners have bet/raised in front of you which is ultra scary

ps: i endorse your sig

Ban everyone in this thread who says this a fold.

On September 09 2008 04:31 Babs wrote: Ban everyone in this thread who says this a fold.

them's fightin' wordz

this can easily be a good fold, but you must have stats or reads that support it. if they both get AI and one shows 1010 and the other shows AJcc then you feel absolutely retarded. vs 2 randoms i always stack off here until i can find a good reason not to.

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