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tloapc   Pitcairn. Sep 04 2008 01:33. Posts 2591

aww fuck I was giving up here but I think I realized why there is some mass confusion or misunderstanding

my dumbass didn't state clearly enough that the dealer ended up PLAYING in the game with his 2 friends when his shift ended
I just said his shift ended and he came back with 2 friends

well anyhow
some of the stuff I found

definitions:
Luminous marked cards - These can only be read by using special gimmicked sunglasses or by wearing contact lenses. The original luminous systems used red lenses and greenish ink on the back of red cards

Daub - A special paste is used by a player to mark someone else's deck, on-the-fly, while the cards are being used during a game and even while being watched. This eliminates the need to switch in a pre-marked deck of cards.

Juice dust - An advanced type of daub, it may be used to make an ad-hoc juiced deck. Like daub it also allows a player to mark someone else's deck, on the fly, while being watched. The main advantage of juice dust is that it will not dull the finish of the cards and works on both paper and 100% plastic playing cards.

Detection:
Reflect light off the back of the card. Cut-out-work (scratches or white ink) will display, as well as many inks or solutions tend to dull the finish on playing cards because they are alcohol based. Only the highest quality solutions will not burn the finish of cards. Placing a drop of alcohol on a card then looking at the finish by reflecting light off the back reveals the burn/dulling effect that these cheap solutions can cause

site selling and showing videos of marked cards that can get you up to speed pretty fast but hopefully you never find useful

The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action. 

Baalim   Mexico. Sep 04 2008 01:47. Posts 34312


  On September 03 2008 22:22 [vital]Myth wrote:
lol

remember potripper?

cheaters don't always do a good job of keeping it a secret

if you're thinking "YEAH OK THE DEALER TRIED TO GIVE IT AWAY BY TELLING YOU, ELEMENTARY MY DEAR FKING WATSON WTF KILL YOURSELF"

then just lol



But if they are cheaters why would the dealer know the cards? there is no use for him to know.

Even if it were a "dealing" cheat they know where the aces are, or who has the coolered hand but they cant possibly know if you have TcJd

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tloapc   Pitcairn. Sep 04 2008 01:49. Posts 2591

ya ok I get where ur coming from Baal I didn't realize I didn't clarify well enough
my bad

the dealer ended up playing with the other 8 of us at the table

The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action. 

milkman   United States. Sep 04 2008 02:19. Posts 5719

sixpeppers was at the wynn and he had a dealer take his cards after a huge hand that wasnt shown down, and he threw um on top of the muck in a way that when he pulled the deck to straighten out all the cards he could see sixpeppers 2 cards sticking out of the muck at a diff angle then the rest.. kinda hard to explain in text.. but if he was calling cards while they were still in ur hand then i duno.

if i had a dealer call out hands like 5 times that had no reason why he could figure a range down that much.. then he sat at the table.. id just get up and go, or possibly go b4 that.

Its hard to make a easy buck legally, its impossible to make a easy buck morally. 

tloapc   Pitcairn. Sep 04 2008 02:27. Posts 2591

ya the cards were still in my hands or whoevers hands every time

The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action. 

SakiSaki    Sweden. Sep 04 2008 06:43. Posts 9687

God I love ket so much. He always calls people out on their bullshit with extreme rage in such a perfect way.

I wish every forum had a ket, the world would be a much better place imo.

what wackass site is this nigga?  

Baalim   Mexico. Sep 04 2008 07:07. Posts 34312

lol i also love ket's calls outs, but this time he definitelly fucked up imo.

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Sep 04 2008 07:39. Posts 9634

since ur in a casino u can always ask to change the carddeck or what


KeanuReaver   United States. Sep 04 2008 07:55. Posts 2022

ket rampages are so awesome it doesn't even matter if they're warranted or not

and the endurance required for MMA, which has actions like punching and kicking bone and muscle with 1000-2500 PSI. - Taco 

Sheitan   Canada. Sep 04 2008 08:14. Posts 4217

Did you read "Ace on the river", Greenstein enlights the situation you are in and he said if you have a remote doubt about the fairness of the game you should just leave. But you have to admit the dealer would be retarded to give away his "incredible reading skills" if they were cheating, really sounds like he got lucky and called hands correctly. Now it's your call to go back or not, good luck dude.

Odds are exactly 50%, either happens or it doesnt  

Sheitan   Canada. Sep 04 2008 08:16. Posts 4217


  On September 03 2008 22:22 [vital]Myth wrote:
lol

remember potripper?

cheaters don't always do a good job of keeping it a secret

if you're thinking "YEAH OK THE DEALER TRIED TO GIVE IT AWAY BY TELLING YOU, ELEMENTARY MY DEAR FKING WATSON WTF KILL YOURSELF"

then just lol



POTRIPPER got caught because they sent the whole history with hole cards revealed, even if players smelled something fishy for obvious reasons like his T hi call they would have never be any scandal if someone in AP didn't volontary send the evidence.

Odds are exactly 50%, either happens or it doesnt  

whamm!   Albania. Sep 04 2008 09:25. Posts 11625

why even bother going back to a game which you think is unfair? you got lucky. go find a better place to play imo


Ket    United Kingdom. Sep 04 2008 09:29. Posts 8665


  On September 04 2008 06:07 Baal wrote:
lol i also love ket's calls outs, but this time he definitelly fucked up imo.


it was a pretty tongue in cheek reply mainly aimed at getting some 'lols', im a little surprised you fools all took my post so seriously and thought i was making a genuine angry rant. i wasnt gonna bother to reply to this thread but enough people misunderstood the intentions of my post that i will reply. sorry if i caused any offense to tloapc i was just killing time by posting on the internets in the way i like to post. if i wanted to do a real call-out you would know it, and this most def wasn't it.

anyhou yeah it makes a lot more sense if the dealer actually played afterwards and shouldve been mentioned originally. because it wasnt mentioned it didnt make any sense that op could feel hes being cheated, so bragging would be the only explanation for the op in the absence of this info.

that said i still think theres an element of thinly veiled bragging even if its a legit thread after all and op would be lying to deny it. not that theres much wrong with thinly veiled bragging, everyone does it. who gives a crap plz dont get riled up over what ppl post in caps lock on the internets plz

 Last edit: 04/09/2008 09:34

Ket    United Kingdom. Sep 04 2008 09:31. Posts 8665


  On September 03 2008 22:22 [vital]Myth wrote:
lol

remember potripper?

cheaters don't always do a good job of keeping it a secret

if you're thinking "YEAH OK THE DEALER TRIED TO GIVE IT AWAY BY TELLING YOU, ELEMENTARY MY DEAR FKING WATSON WTF KILL YOURSELF"

then just lol


forget the others who don't know me, id have thought YOUd have been one to realise im wasting time making random spammy replies!



  On September 04 2008 08:25 whamm! wrote:
why even bother going back to a game which you think is unfair? you got lucky. go find a better place to play imo


/endthread

 Last edit: 04/09/2008 09:32

NiTE   Croatia. Sep 04 2008 10:12. Posts 366

Everything suddenly seems more interesting and thread-worthy if there's a part of the story where you ...uhmm... own people at poker for example.

So I'm with Ket on this, even after his explanation.

Have an opinion about what I said? please say it 

tloapc   Pitcairn. Sep 04 2008 10:13. Posts 2591

to me ket you caused much more surprise than offense
thought it was venting or something I dunno
water under the bridge here

I can see how it could be deemed a thinly veiled brag as if all I wanted to know was info on ink usage on cards I coulda just made a thread asking if anyone had any info or experience with the subject ya?
but making my posts at least enjoyable or positive to read and hopefully worth someones time is something I like to do as the negativity/flaming/whining/selfishness etc is very easy to find anywhere online
so I thought in writing I could kill two birds with one stone, so yes I used a positive experience which I'll agree is me bragging
wasn't my main intent
just wish I said the dealer came back and played but ah well shit happens

agreed with /endthread

The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action. 

lachlan   Australia. Sep 04 2008 10:25. Posts 6991


  On September 04 2008 09:13 tloapc wrote:
to me ket you caused much more surprise than offense
thought it was venting or something I dunno
water under the bridge here

I can see how it could be deemed a thinly veiled brag as if all I wanted to know was info on ink usage on cards I coulda just made a thread asking if anyone had any info or experience with the subject ya?
but making my posts at least enjoyable or positive to read and hopefully worth someones time is something I like to do as the negativity/flaming/whining/selfishness etc is very easy to find anywhere online
so I thought in writing I could kill two birds with one stone, so yes I used a positive experience which I'll agree is me bragging
wasn't my main intent
just wish I said the dealer came back and played but ah well shit happens

agreed with /endthread

lol stop defending urself

full ring 

tloapc   Pitcairn. Sep 04 2008 10:40. Posts 2591

good point

The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action. 

Rhaegar    Bulgaria. Sep 04 2008 15:00. Posts 2586

Pretty sure its cheating if youre not making it up.

One very suspicious player 

Sheitan   Canada. Sep 04 2008 15:21. Posts 4217


  On September 04 2008 09:40 tloapc wrote:
good point



LOL, i"d grab a pen and tap this little mother fucker's balls

Odds are exactly 50%, either happens or it doesnt  

 
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