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ToT)MidiaN(   United Kingdom. Sep 01 2008 07:37. Posts 5070 | | |
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I've never played with villain before today. He is running 27/21/2 and playing on 2 of my tables, 6 tables total. I've got into a few 3bet pots with him, and I'm mostly beating him. He seems to be splashing around a fair bit but I don't have any concrete reads. He got his stack in this hand: http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/516131 Who calls and who folds? |
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[vital]Myth   United States. Sep 01 2008 08:54. Posts 12159 | | | |
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NMcNasty   United States. Sep 01 2008 09:00. Posts 2041 | | |
fold, u need a little more history to be worried about the big idiot bluff and the overly thin value shove. |
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[vital]Myth   United States. Sep 01 2008 09:06. Posts 12159 | | |
and you get that history by seeing his cards
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pinbaLL   Sweden. Sep 01 2008 09:07. Posts 7243 | | | |
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Twisted   Netherlands. Sep 01 2008 09:47. Posts 10422 | | |
I call, that ATo hand obviously dictates that he valueshoves waaayy too light. Pretty sure he's valueshoving any ten here |
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gruzerz   Bulgaria. Sep 01 2008 10:14. Posts 472 | | |
call,I really cannot imagine a made hand that check/call this flop and especially turn so deep |
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[vital]Myth   United States. Sep 01 2008 10:34. Posts 12159 | | |
I CALL TOO THIS IS MYTH NOW |
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PoorUser   United States. Sep 01 2008 11:01. Posts 7472 | | |
prefer betting a little less so you feel better about calling more
but call yeah |
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DooMeR   United States. Sep 01 2008 11:24. Posts 8564 | | |
ok i was gonna say fold, HOWEVER i thought some more if he ever has us beat here he also has hands we beat so i think its fine to call here 
i also think the most likely hand that beats us is exactly KT and almost nothing else.
its just hard to believe that this deep he'd wait til river for us to hear from him. I'm not saying thats always the case, but the likely hood lowers the freqeucny of hands that beats us vs hands that we beat |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Sep 01 2008 12:36. Posts 20070 | | |
just based of that first hand.. sssnnnaapppp
Quite an obsurd line for a weaker hand though, but that AT hand is obsurd itself, definatley makes him capable of overplaying Tx here with the intention of hoping you have AK or something along that line. looks like hes just playing the strength of his hands without taking into acocunt what hes repping and what his opponents can call with* |
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Yugless   United States. Sep 01 2008 12:54. Posts 7174 | | |
pretty sure this is a profitable call. 78 is part of his range along with Tx, KT and flopped sets/2 pair. |
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JonnyCosMo   United States. Sep 01 2008 13:03. Posts 7292 | | | |
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Nazgul   Netherlands. Sep 01 2008 22:09. Posts 7080 | | |
the only way you are beat him check calling sets/2pair, this is so unlikely you just have to call here youll have the best hand a lot i think |
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Results? im guessing he had AT |
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NMcNasty   United States. Sep 02 2008 10:56. Posts 2041 | | |
| | On September 01 2008 08:47 Twisted wrote:
I call, that ATo hand obviously dictates that he valueshoves waaayy too light. Pretty sure he's valueshoving any ten here |
seemed like he was shoving as a call not a value-bet lol.
but u guys are right though, people are getting more stupidly aggressive by the minute, no reason to make big folds in todays games. |
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I think you where beat here a fair bit, but whatever, pot odds and shit. |
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ToT)MidiaN(   United Kingdom. Sep 02 2008 16:58. Posts 5070 | | |
| | On September 02 2008 08:40 casinocasino wrote:
Results? im guessing he had AT |
Nah. I tanked for like 15 seconds, reasoned that I only lost to KT and maybe T9, said fuck it, and called. He showed J9cc and I shipped it. He was like "sick call" then 2 hands later I stacked him with 23s flopping a flush vs his 2 pair with JT on JT8ccc. After that he called me a lucky donk. Fun times. |
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[vital]Myth   United States. Sep 02 2008 22:12. Posts 12159 | | |
lol good read
rekrul and i were laughing at mcnasty and looking back at this thread and dan said "this guy has like 97 or 98 or some pair + missed gutshot and is just fucking around" |
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KeyleK_uk   United Kingdom. Sep 05 2008 05:36. Posts 1687 | | |
I was gonna say he's getting to the river with loads and loads of hands here, so its just how high a %age of them he's turning into bluffs, and theres so many hands he has to get to the river here that I think you have to call. |
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Rhaegar   Bulgaria. Sep 05 2008 12:05. Posts 2586 | | | |
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NMcNasty   United States. Sep 05 2008 18:48. Posts 2041 | | |
| | On September 02 2008 15:58 ToT)MidiaN( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2008 08:40 casinocasino wrote:
Results? im guessing he had AT |
Nah. I tanked for like 15 seconds, reasoned that I only lost to KT and maybe T9, said fuck it, and called. He showed J9cc and I shipped it. He was like "sick call" then 2 hands later I stacked him with 23s flopping a flush vs his 2 pair with JT on JT8ccc. After that he called me a lucky donk. Fun times.
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lol so ur post was just to level nits like myself?
well done sir |
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NMcNasty   United States. Sep 05 2008 18:51. Posts 2041 | | |
| | On September 02 2008 21:12 [vital]Myth wrote:
lol good read
rekrul and i were laughing at mcnasty and looking back at this thread and dan said "this guy has like 97 or 98 or some pair + missed gutshot and is just fucking around" |
yeah yeah :|
little bit of a brain fart by me, forgot how bad people are |
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Fayth   Canada. Sep 06 2008 01:30. Posts 10085 | | |
prob a fold against a solid player, this one however seems like a complete moron, thus I call without too much thinking |
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Twisted   Netherlands. Sep 06 2008 05:18. Posts 10422 | | |
mcnasty no offense but you say fold in like every thread lol. |
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ToT)MidiaN(   United Kingdom. Sep 06 2008 05:18. Posts 5070 | | |
| | On September 05 2008 17:48 NMcNasty wrote:
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On September 02 2008 15:58 ToT)MidiaN( wrote:
| | On September 02 2008 08:40 casinocasino wrote:
Results? im guessing he had AT |
Nah. I tanked for like 15 seconds, reasoned that I only lost to KT and maybe T9, said fuck it, and called. He showed J9cc and I shipped it. He was like "sick call" then 2 hands later I stacked him with 23s flopping a flush vs his 2 pair with JT on JT8ccc. After that he called me a lucky donk. Fun times.
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lol so ur post was just to level nits like myself?
well done sir |
I was geniunely curious how many would say fold |
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JonnyCosMo   United States. Sep 06 2008 15:37. Posts 7292 | | |
| | On September 06 2008 04:18 Twisted wrote:
mcnasty no offense but you say fold in like every thread lol. |
rofl look whos talking |
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locoo   Peru. Sep 06 2008 21:23. Posts 4566 | | |
folding makes ur penis shrink! |
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n0rthf4ce   United States. Sep 07 2008 18:50. Posts 8119 | | |
this is a snapfold vs a lot of ppl, but given his A10 hand (which is way diff from this btw) he can never really have a boat here except K10 sometimes (910 c/r flop, any set c/r flop, he never has KK). its a tough spot if you think he never turns a hand into a bluff, which a lot of ppl don't, but i its still a call. but a close one --; |
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Twisted   Netherlands. Sep 08 2008 08:41. Posts 10422 | | |
| | On September 06 2008 14:37 JonnyCosMo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2008 04:18 Twisted wrote:
mcnasty no offense but you say fold in like every thread lol. |
rofl look whos talking
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