On August 29 2008 18:33 Yugless wrote:
everyone loved Mccain until he won the republican nomination
what is his stance on online gambling? he's been known to break from his party on a lot of issues
Not since he became their presidential nominee. Refer to Kerry's speech.
This letter isn't going to do anything to change McCain's mind - if you are gonna take some sorta action to influence politics and get a chance for legal online poker in the USA, you should do everything you can to get Obama elected. Volunteer for the campaign, talk to friends, and make sure people know how far McCain has gone from the good guy we knew in 2000.
Obama is a poker player himself and supposedly a pretty good one. He's also a democrat, and remember that it was the REPUBLICANS who snuck that BS UIGEA bill in before the holidays and it was BUSH who signed it into law. Obama is by far the best chance we have, and democrats overall are more supportive of online poker than republicans.
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Last edit: 29/08/2008 21:04
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Ket   United Kingdom. Aug 29 2008 21:09. Posts 8665
i just want to quickly interject here with "YAY UK!"
that's all, plz continue
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TenBagger   United States. Aug 29 2008 21:09. Posts 2018
Sometimes I wonder how anyone who has a net worth of less than a million dollars could possibly be republican and pro-mccain. And then I realize that 50% of all Americans still believes that the earth and everything on it was created less than 10,000 years ago in its current form by a supreme god.
And then it makes sense.
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TenBagger   United States. Aug 29 2008 21:14. Posts 2018
btw, I had a conversation with my friend's parents the other day at a BBQ. They are both very well educated, decent people. They are also extremely wealthy. They agree with obama on most of the issues but they said they were going to vote for mccain. I asked them why? They said that as much as they care about the environment and social justice, etc. its not worth $500,000 a year to them. That is how much less they are paying in taxes now than they did before bush.
Rich people are republican, it makes sense.
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VanDerMeyde   Norway. Aug 29 2008 21:14. Posts 5127
"USA cant afford a third Bush thirm"
I agree
:D
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k2o4   United States. Aug 29 2008 21:15. Posts 4803
Although for many politicians the support of poker players may be the furthest demographic from their minds American presidential hopeful, Senator Barack Obama is proving that having the gamblers on his side may prove an enormous help. Due to Obama’s stance on US legislature concerning the game he is drumming up a lot of interest from the masses of poker enthusiasts across the nation.
Although Senator John McCain is also a fan of gambling he frequents craps tables while Obama has identified himself as a Texas Hold ‘Em and Seven-Card Stud buff. The Democrat also seeks an end to the illegality of certain poker games within the United States and hopes to offer restrictions rather than outright bans. The Poker Players for Obama maintain consistent blog postings on his website and even former die-hard Republican, Doyle Brunson has announced that his vote will go toward the Democratic candidate in November. Perhaps the most striking sign of support comes from the million strong Pokers Players Alliance as their number alone shows great potential for favorable voting.
Considering that McCain supports the Republican bid for banning internet poker many fans of the game see Obama as the only correct candidate if they wish to continue enjoying their hobby or livelihood online. Regardless of other policies and campaign promises, Obama’s stance on poker and personal regard for the game has gained him a strong following as US elections grow ever closer.
"During this poker cash game lull, I am on this race for President like stupid is on Britney Spears. I have come to the conclusion that poker players have to support Obama. We can?t possibly let McCain be our President because he supports most of George W. Bush?s views. Hillary has lots of experience but I don?t think she is ready to lead our nation. Imagine her trying to talk to the leaders of the Islamic world? I wish we could have her husband back, but we can?t. Jennifer Harman and I have emailed Obama and asked what his position is on internet gaming. Hopefully we will get a response from his camp."
The republicans are actively working to completely ban us from playing poker. It is in the platform even. Obama likes poker, and is generally known to not be against it at least. He isn't going to give praises for it in the public, for it could be a big negative for him. Basically it will let Barney Frank et al. try to push legislation through without worrying about a veto from a Republican president.
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TenBagger   United States. Aug 29 2008 21:15. Posts 2018
The ignorant and the rich are republicans.
It makes sense.
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k2o4   United States. Aug 29 2008 21:19. Posts 4803
On August 29 2008 20:14 TenBagger wrote:
btw, I had a conversation with my friend's parents the other day at a BBQ. They are both very well educated, decent people. They are also extremely wealthy. They agree with obama on most of the issues but they said they were going to vote for mccain. I asked them why? They said that as much as they care about the environment and social justice, etc. its not worth $500,000 a year to them. That is how much less they are paying in taxes now than they did before bush.
Rich people are republican, it makes sense.
Yeah, I run into that a lot too =
I think 500k is a pretty huge sum... I guess they're very rich. Here's how income taxes would change from how they are right now if each of them became prez:
Of course there are other taxes too that affect rich people, but overall most of em aren't getting any crazy hike under Obama. At the most they're going to go to where they were under Clinton.
tokeweed   Philippines. Aug 29 2008 21:56. Posts 2149
if obama wins the UIGEA might be lifted, and if that happens... bye bye fishy euro sites! all the american grinders will be unleashed! i have no idea why non-americans are rooting for obama...
big hand = bong loads
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JYang   United States. Aug 29 2008 22:14. Posts 2669
ya bye bye fishy euro sites cuz everyone can get ez games on pokerstars
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JYang   United States. Aug 29 2008 22:15. Posts 2669
well obama is a pretty big favorite now
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phexac   United States. Aug 29 2008 22:39. Posts 2563
Let just hope the hate of all things Republican that allowed the Democrats to win the Congressional elections is still around and in full force so that Obama can win. McCain as president....brrrr
Nitting it up since 2006
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SugoGosu   Korea (South). Aug 29 2008 22:39. Posts 1793
Say this outloud! Why was six afraid of seven?......Because Seven Eight Nine
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k2o4   United States. Aug 30 2008 00:03. Posts 4803
On August 29 2008 21:39 SugoGosu wrote:
sweet - I been looking for something with recent poll results.
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YoMeR   United States. Aug 30 2008 00:18. Posts 12438
well fuck obama one time.
if american gets the bush 2.0 we'll be super fucked imo. and even if we aren't fuck it. i want fishy sites.
eZ Life.
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TenBagger   United States. Aug 30 2008 01:50. Posts 2018
if mccain gets elected, there is a pretty decent chance that sarah palin may at some point become president of the US.
This is a woman who believes creationism is a science and should be taught in schools:
"Palin was answering a question from the moderator near the conclusion of Wednesday night's televised debate on KAKM Channel 7 when she said, "Teach both. You know, don't be afraid of information."
What kind of world do we live in? Is this really the most powerful nation in the 21st century where the potential president is a doubter of science? The republicans have done nothing about global warming which threatens our very existence but they have enough time to go after poker. So fucking retarded.
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Royal_Rumble   Germany. Aug 30 2008 02:40. Posts 1760
americans, don't let us down on this one, pllllllllllllllllllllease
money won is twice as sweet as money earned.
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xafies   Greece. Aug 30 2008 03:20. Posts 1079
If this graph is legit,how the hell its still a flip between those two?wtf
Whats the abstention percentage?
average income
You can not lose if you do not play
Last edit: 30/08/2008 03:26
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Royal_Rumble   Germany. Aug 30 2008 05:57. Posts 1760
all the hardcore rednecks will vote McCain, no matter how low their income is.