nl 1000 - big fold in a small pot ?

Villain is a regular who is 19/11 with a 13% went to showdown after 300 hands, 3.7 flop aggression and 2 turn and riv, never seen her minraise preflop before.

villain posts (SB) $5
hero posts (BB) $10

Dealt to hero Js Qc
4 fold, villain raises to $20, hero calls

FLOP ($40) Jc Qs Kd
villain bets $30, hero calls

TURN ($100) Jc Qs Kd 6s
villain bets $100, hero folds

whattttttttt?????????? no way never. call again and if he checks river then make a 2/3 pot ish vbet. possibly fold river if he fires again, but not turn

On August 15 2008 06:54 [vital]Myth wrote: whattttttttt?????????? no way never. call again and if he checks river then make a 2/3 pot ish vbet. possibly fold river if he fires again, but not turn

She's a girl and she's got pink (as in gay) everywhere in my hud, I felt it was ok at the time (maybe not so much as I'm still posting the hand).

this is awful.. you have next to no info on villain's hand, how can you fold 2pair here?? Turn bet looks like AK, KT or something.. definitely leaning towards 1 pair.

raise the flop, as played call turn, re-evaluate river

i dont like raise flop usually fwiw

why not?

dont like raise flop either, but also dont like turn fold. i think you should take 2 off and fold on a none q or j river or vbet smallish on a blank riv if they check riv

why does noone raise the flop with 2pair on a scary board against a minraise pre?

because if he folds then yes u were ahead congrats u made him fold

and if he calls then congrats u have learned nothing and he may just be letting u take the lead with a weaker hand

folding QJ on a QJK6 board Heads up?

huh... are you sane?

I only call too most of the time against a player like this.... would play it differently vs other type of players

On August 15 2008 11:52 asdf2000 wrote: because if he folds then yes u were ahead congrats u made him fold for no reason and if he calls then congrats u have learned nothing and he may just be letting u take the lead with a weaker hand and you are probably missing value against 1pair hands, naked draws, and some weaker pair+SD

ok, i didnt really consider stats, i never play with hud and stuff so i always go on feel -_-

On August 15 2008 16:33 Stygg wrote: ok, i didnt really consider stats, i never play with hud and stuff so i always go on feel -_-

stats aren't really the point

you have the nuts. wtf.

your reasoning for folding makes no sence, mostly due to the fact there is no reasoning

On August 15 2008 11:52 asdf2000 wrote: because if he folds then yes u were ahead congrats u made him fold and if he calls then congrats u have learned nothing and he may just be letting u take the lead with a weaker hand

Ok, fair enough... makes sense. Don't you consider balancing your range tho? Providing villain is a capable player, he/ she'll get info we never raise 2pr (unless top two maybe) here so we are polarized to set, str8, str8 draw...

It's clearly not the best option ... how about 2/10 times to mix it up though?

lol que

On August 17 2008 13:07 CZechRaise wrote: Show nested quote + On August 15 2008 11:52 asdf2000 wrote: because if he folds then yes u were ahead congrats u made him fold and if he calls then congrats u have learned nothing and he may just be letting u take the lead with a weaker hand Ok, fair enough... makes sense. Don't you consider balancing your range tho? Providing villain is a capable player, he/ she'll get info we never raise 2pr (unless top two maybe) here so we are polarized to set, str8, str8 draw... It's clearly not the best option ... how about 2/10 times to mix it up though?

no

how many hands is somebody going to play with you where...

1) it's this preflop action
2) it's this type of board
3) you have this type of history
4) you're in this state of tilt or non-tilt
5) etc.

i mean do you really think somebody is going to get into this spot with you more than 25 times? because that's about how many times it would take for them to realize you never mix it up, and MAYBE start to exploit you for it

still, pretty hard to exploit you when you flop 2pair

this is just not the type of spot where you should worry about balance at all. and if you have a habit of worrying about balance in spots like this, you're gonna be wasting far too much time considering useless things, and you'll end up missing out on a lot of ways to play better