Conspiracy Movie - Page 7

This is my 99% accurate word-for-word translation of what the narrator of "Ring of Power" says. She begins talking on this issue at about 23:00 into the video. Here is the link if you care to watch for yourself.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8250619454941053618

"An even bigger mystery is why WTC7 owned by Larry Silverstein collapsed, even though it had never been hit?"

"The 30 yo WTC has always been publicly owned and manage by the New York New Jersey Port Authority. That is until a jewish business man named Lewis Eisenberg (sp?) becamse the chariman. [he] is an active leader in Jewish Zionist organization. He personally oversaw negotiation that put the publicly owned WTC into private hands. Those private hands belong to two Jewish Zionist billionaires, named Larry Silverstein and Frank Lowy (sp?), even though their bid was lower than other bids. Lowy served as a commander in the Israeli army, and Silverstein just happens to be the former chariman of the united Jewish Israel appeal. With Eisenbergs help, they landed the 99 year lease worth $8 billion for half price at $3.5 billion.

"During the moving renovations and secrutiy change overs, explosive could have easily been installed in the building without detection. Geroge W's brother Marvin Bush was not only the director of the WTC electronic security company, he was also the director of the world trade centers casualty and insurance company called Houston Casualty. That company terminated their insurance comapny for the WTC before 9/11 just in the nick of time. Another suspicious company occupied the 16th and 17th floors of the north tower. That company, called Zim Israel-American Shipping, suddenly broke their lease, paid a $50k penalty and moved out of the WTC only weeks before 9/11. ZIAS is owned by Zim Israel Navigation, which just happens to be owned by the government of Israel.

"If the new owners Silverstein and Lowy knew about the 9/11 attacks in advance, why did they buy a 99 year lease for the doomed building? Because they could do the simple math. Silverstein bought the $3.5billion WTC with only a $15 million down-payment, which amounts to 0.1% of the total. He took out maximum terrorist insurance coverage only 6 weeks before the attack. The demolition of the WTC on 9/11 eliminated Silversteins cost for an $800 million facelift to update the aging 30yo building. As soon as the spanking new WTC is finally built and expanded to over 11million sq ft of rental space, Silverstein stands to pocket billions of dollars per month. In the meantime, US taxpayers are covering Silversteins' so-called losses. Then there are the big payouts from insurance policies with mega-terrorism insurance which Silverstein took out just weeks before 9/11. Silverstein is demanding a 200% payout by claiming payouts for two separate 9/11 attacks instead of 1.

"Silversteins insurance companies called "Swiss Re" and "Munich Re" are the same companies under investigation for advance knowledge of 9/11 and for profiting from 9/11 on the stockmarket. If silversetins insurance companies knew in advance about the attacks, why would the insure doomed buildings? Were these giant insurance companies hand-picked to keep a lid on their insurance investigation findings, and to ignore the evidence of 9/11 cover-ups? Silverstein has since bought out Frank Lowy, paid off investors in loan groups, put limits on victim compensation claims, and turned the publically owned WTC into the smelliest private real estate deal in American history.

George W bush threw up permanment roadblocks to stop an independant investigation of the 9/11 events. When the 9/11 senate commitee report was published, 27 pages that would have connected international banks to 9/11 were censored. On October 30th 2003, a CBC television documentary investigated the 10 year friendship between the Bush family, the Bin Laden family of Saudi Arabia, and the Saudi royal family. That friendship includes illegal presidential campaign contributions, and partnerships in oil and weapons companies like the Carl Lyle group. Since 9/11, 2500 relatives of victims filed trillion dollar lawsuits against 7 international banks, against the Saudi friends of the Bush family, and against the US government for supression of information."

The proof of how stupid these theories are is lied within the theories itself.
1:Lets say these bankers manage to sneak in TONs of explosives and hudreds of meters of wires into the top security buildings in a such a short about of time
2: Lets say that NO one of the 100+ crew who handeled all these ever spoke out
3:Lets say that No security and other people ever realized what all these explosives doing in the middle of Manhatan
Lets say all that is true. Im not even arguing about these SMALL facts

Here is a question for you:
Why the had to make these buildings collapse in such a nice way and rise suspecios? Why they couldnt plant less explosives and make the buildings collapse sideway distroying more and hiding more evidence?



Here is a decent website. With math/photos/simulation and engineers opinions. Refrence to pappers published in scientific journals.
People who build that A-Bomb and people who build buildings they say it was possible for buildings to collapse.
Why WTC 7 collapsed?
http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

Make your choice who you wanna belive them or a bunch of college dropouts and people who are talking behind a camera?






Baal never answered my two key questions he did the first one on MSN but I would appriciate if anyone who think 911 was inside job answer them first

I think its stupid what you guys are doing. Pocerdoc said it best in his post about the "reality box" or whatever it was. People have a set of things they want to believe and if some of those things arent in that realm then fuck it..

Capaneo wont believe shit Baal is going to say so stop trying to answer each other questions and what not, and vice a versa, Baal wont believe anything cap. has to say. Different realms..

Those videos pokerdoc posted are powerful, I liked end game... That is some crazy stuff. Sheep will always be sheep...

On August 14 2008 12:46 Ja hunta wrote: I think its stupid what you guys are doing. Pocerdoc said it best in his post about the "reality box" or whatever it was. People have a set of things they want to believe and if some of those things arent in that realm then fuck it.. Capaneo wont believe shit Baal is going to say so stop trying to answer each other questions and what not, and vice a versa, Baal wont believe anything cap. has to say. Different realms.. Those videos pokerdoc posted are powerful, I liked end game... That is some crazy stuff. Sheep will always be sheep...

I belive everything that is sopported by facts, scientific approches and mathematical equations.
Some unknown bankers, destroyed evidence, cover ups, stolen tapes, confession with last breath, behind the curtain deals and out of focus and blurry pics and videos are the kind of stuff I dont belive and these are THE ONLY type of evidence they have.
If you are a banker and you talk about banks I take your world.
If you are an astronomer talking about stars I also take your words.
But if you are on internet forums or if you are talking on a movie and you bring up "facts" then you HAVE to support your words. With books and journals with page numbers.



There are conspiracies in the world. WaterGate/Iraq WMDs and rigged elections and stuff.
Saying that hijackers were sopported by some war profetiers in US IS acceptable. (no proof one way or the other)
But anything beyond that is not a matter of belief is a matter of being blind to evidence and being ignorant

just wanted to say thx for ur contributions everyone im reading everything just don't have any worthwile comments other than thx

lol im not sure if they are typos, but your english is terrible (both cap and baal)

On August 14 2008 14:55 Bigbobm wrote: lol im not sure if they are typos, but your english is terrible (both cap and baal)

no offense but you are as ignorant as hell for making comments like that

On August 14 2008 12:46 Ja hunta wrote: I think its stupid what you guys are doing. Pocerdoc said it best in his post about the "reality box" or whatever it was. People have a set of things they want to believe and if some of those things arent in that realm then fuck it.. Capaneo wont believe shit Baal is going to say so stop trying to answer each other questions and what not, and vice a versa, Baal wont believe anything cap. has to say. Different realms.. .

this is really irrelevant everyone speaks with arguments and other ppl can judge them it's not like Baal or capaneo have to convince each other,they aren't the only ones reading this

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On August 14 2008 13:37 capaneo wrote: Show nested quote + On August 14 2008 12:46 Ja hunta wrote: I think its stupid what you guys are doing. Pocerdoc said it best in his post about the "reality box" or whatever it was. People have a set of things they want to believe and if some of those things arent in that realm then fuck it.. Capaneo wont believe shit Baal is going to say so stop trying to answer each other questions and what not, and vice a versa, Baal wont believe anything cap. has to say. Different realms.. Those videos pokerdoc posted are powerful, I liked end game... That is some crazy stuff. Sheep will always be sheep... I belive everything that is sopported by facts, scientific approches and mathematical equations. Some unknown bankers, destroyed evidence, cover ups, stolen tapes, confession with last breath, behind the curtain deals and out of focus and blurry pics and videos are the kind of stuff I dont belive and these are THE ONLY type of evidence they have. If you are a banker and you talk about banks I take your world. If you are an astronomer talking about stars I also take your words. But if you are on internet forums or if you are talking on a movie and you bring up "facts" then you HAVE to support your words. With books and journals with page numbers. There are conspiracies in the world. WaterGate/Iraq WMDs and rigged elections and stuff. Saying that hijackers were sopported by some war profetiers in US IS acceptable. (no proof one way or the other) But anything beyond that is not a matter of belief is a matter of being blind to evidence and being ignorant

I agree with you 90%. But I'd like to make a point: Don't take any ones word without reserving the right to free thought for yourself. Just because a chemistry teacher shows you the periodic table, don't assume "it must be true because he's a chemistry teacher". Einstein is famous for expressing the following: "No matter how many times an experiment is repeated, it can never prove a theory right. How ever, one experiment is all it takes to prove a theory wrong".

Not all people are born equal, and a professional title does not guarantee you're receiving professional, 100% factual advice. Within many professions, such as physics, medicine, theology etc., even the experts with their PhD titles disagree on certain facts.

Also, don't believe the general consensus. The majority of people is NOT always right. Everyone laughed at Christopher Columbus when he said the world was round. We now know for a fact that the Earth is NOT flat, and that Christopher Columbus was right.

It is our human right to be able to disagree, and it is also our right to question what we believe, what we're told, and where their sources of information came from. Stop thinking in absolutes. As a fellow poker player, you should be aware of the necessity to accept uncertainty in all of your decision making. When I'm presented an argument stating that the moon landings are false, I must reserve within my mind even the 1% probability chance that what I am hearing is true, if I am ever to allow myself to LISTEN to what is being said and make an informed decision. When you think in absolutes, you shut your mind off and ultimately choose to remain ignorant. Personally, I DO believe the lunar landings are true, and I haven't been presented with enough evidence to change my mind. But having said that, my mind is open to the possibility that perhaps the landings were staged, even if it is only a 1% chance in my mind.

If you want to know my personal thoughts on all of these conspiracies, I will offer them here in brief:

I believe that 9/11 was a controlled demolition. Ultimately who is responsible for it? I don't know, and I don't think concrete evidence proving it will ever let me make up my mind, short of confessions straight from the Bush admin themselves.

I believe that there are people who desire to dominate and control the entire world. The desire for absolute power is a natural human trait, I think the majority of humans possess this trait to varying degrees.

I don't believe that the British Royal family are descendants of Jesus. I believe that Jesus existed, or at least the character of Jesus as portrayed in the bible was based on a factual human figure. I don't believe he had the power to perform miracles. But I do believe in his message of forgiveness. I also believe it is irrelevant as to whether or not Jesus COULD perform miracles, because I think his message is profound and something we should all take the time to consider.

I believe a God exists. I don't believe in the portrayals of God as told by any religious institute to my knowledge. Hence, I would be deemed an agnostic.

I believe that secret societies such as Skull and Bones and the Bilderburgs exist. I don't know their exact agenda, but I believe they exist to benefit themselves and are not altruistic organizations. Whether or not that means they're plotting to take over the world (ie. NYO), who knows? I don't believe NYO will happen, but I imagine it is certainly possible.

Finally, I believe I have the right to believe everything I have previously said, and I also believe you have the right to disagree with all of it.