Conspiracy Movie - Page 6

On August 14 2008 00:13 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On August 13 2008 23:25 capaneo wrote: On the banking facts. That thing about income tax in unconstitutional is a lie. Also incoming tax is not a very mysterious way. Its all over the whole world. So I dont know how that makes the US goverment Evil. Or these global bankers are working all over the world? And on FEDs. We all know it is created after the great depression because of the panic. I read the story of banking in US. And trust me before the FEDs it was a total chaos. And I feel much safter with FEDs than without feds. Also quoting charles lindbergh on banking??!!!! give me a break. He was the first guy who crossed Atlantic and got famous. Ok his dad was congressman. But I dont know why someone would refer to him for banking system in US. I dont know. If america is soo Evil and if the system there is so corrupt and it sucks so much. Why US is the most powerfull country in the world? Why average people here live such a great life? Why everyone here can say/do anything they want without being afraid of THE POWERFULL EVIL GOVERMENT. If education system in US is so bad why out of 777 nobel prize 300 was given to americans? Why about everything you see was invented in America? Why this movie calling FDR a traitor and then it is quoting JFK on how we should live our lives??!!!!! Why in this HUGE HUGE theories of conspiracy and anti american people movments there is no words of well known alive people like Bill Gates or Warren Buffet? @Myth there is ZERO source in this movie. In the real world when you say something (like the origin of Jesus and Horus or the stars) You cite the source with page number and exact details and words. I can go on and on and I bet money that I can investigate and debunk about everything they say in this movie. Again, you are a retard capaneo, i will answer your questions in numbers cuz i think the bitchslapping is more organized that way. 1.- Yes dumbass, central Banks are spread all over the world do you think USA is the only country working under a central bank model?, they even mention how the ENGLISH central bank wanted to establish one in the united states implying england works the same way. 2.- LOL so you think because USA is powerful therefore its leader must be honest? i dont see the correlation at all.... So you believe honesty and rectitude generates POWER? god u have as much clue about how the world works as floofy. Oh and you think because you can diss the goverment you have freedom of speech?... you believe you are the exeption or something?, here in Mexico a country FAR more corrupt and shittier we can say whatever we want about our goverment, we actually do and they mock the president on daily basis like in USA and it doesnt make us any less corrupt. 3.- Because american basica educational system suck, nobody is saying that the MIT, Harvard or Yale are trying to keep people dumb... and you dont win nobel prizes by going to primary schools, you dont give a fuck about a handful of intelectuals, you care about the ignorance of the masses. Also you are implying you believe that the US educational system doesnt suck compared to the rest of the world.... so do you want me to quote numbers in several test scores here so i can bitch slap u harder?, US educational system is falling behind the rest of the world very quickly and its not even at the top of the list. This movie doesnt adress Bill Gates or Buffet but others do, and to be honest i saw outrageous claims about their philantrophy, but to be honest even if those claims are true it doesnt matter because they wouldnt even big big gears in this machinery, do you really think David Rockefeller gives a flying fuck about Gate's fortue? its pocket change, these people dont give a shit about money, they have all the money in the world, its all about power.

1:Whats the goal of these central bankers?

2: I never said US leaders are honest. But I know that being corupted in such a fucked up way you cannot last in power. Im comming from a revolution not 30 years ago for the same exact reason. Coruption in power while people have money and time and having a good life never lasts. It can last if you have the people grabbed by the balls like in comunist countries but in places like this you can not be sooooooo corupted and last.

3: Enlighten me on what exactly defines a better education system?

4: Who is David Rockefeller? You telling me a 93 year old man is behind all these?? And how much money you think he has? Forbes says 2.7Bil. How much you beilve he has?


Just bitch slap me by answering this plz
In case you missed

DUDE answer the question. You know exactly what Im asking and you know its not that. Im asking WHY THE GOVERMENT NEEDED TO BRING THE BUILDINGS DOWN TO ACHIVE THEIR GOAL?? Also on 2nd question. It takes way more than a dozen people to set explosives on 220 floors of WTC in secrecy THAT AND the WTC7 building. I hope you understand how naive it sounds to have probably weeks of times ahead and hundreds of people involved to bring down WTC in middle of day and NOBODY ever talked about it. Or are you about to tell me that a bunch of global billioner bankers walked in WTC with explosives and planted everything? But please answer the first question. WHY the goverment needs to bring down the buildings? I mean lets say hijackers would hit the buildings and 1500 would die insted of 3000. How would that in any way effect bush's goals of world domination?

lol, the picture capaneo just take a second look at my picture, Firemen, dust flying everywhere... do you think this picture was taken after the clean-up job? LOL

On August 13 2008 17:22 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On August 13 2008 10:29 TheGuru wrote:   On August 13 2008 09:46 XeliN wrote: Kerosene (the fuel used in the jet planes) does not burn at a high enough temperature to melt steel, not even close That simple, undeniable fact (prove me wrong if you disagree) at the very worst, suggests that the portrayal of events by the US Government, Media e.t.c was not the exact reality of what happened and begs the question what did melt the steel? At worst George Bush got drunk and pressed the tewwowize button on his fisher price laptop, and when he woke up next morning, with dog breath and a headache, decided to cover up the whole thing. Just a thought, energy is also added by million of tons of building material falling down. I have no idea if it's enough to melt steel but it shouldn't be discarded. Loved the movie and it's seems very fishy, if a few americans lean to think objectively I guess it served it's purpose. omg did you even take physics 101 on highschool? a Tsunami has thousands of times more energy than the towers falling they it doesnt melt steel lol. energy =/= heat, momentum, inertia or acceleration does not randomly convert to heat melting steel what in the fuck...

I'm actually a mechanical engineer thnx for asking, and I didn't claim that this was the explanation, comparing to the Tsunami is not smart though. A Tsunami is water which is very good at leading away energy/heat, air is not. The Tsunami had a lot more total energy of course but also distributed over a much larger area.

Your last comment is really interesting, where exactly is the energy going if it doesn't transform to heat? I would claim the opposite, all energy from the "crash" would be converted to heat, if it is enough to melt steel I have no idea.

On August 14 2008 00:11 capaneo wrote: Show nested quote + On August 13 2008 23:09 Baal wrote:   On August 13 2008 22:07 [vital]Myth wrote: k after reading thread i'm clearly not as "shocked" and "wowed" as before but few things cap i respect your opinions on the 9/11 part and am with you but can you provide citation or evidence that says the banking citations/quotes and the religious evidences are "just lies"? gna go back and see if i can research their facts now, but i mean did they really just completely make up all the facts they cited about the formation of the US federal reserve bank...? After watching the movie i did some research and i didnt find any matches on some of their claims, like claims of Horus being born from a virgin, or Mythra being bla bla bla, i couldnt find all the matches, however there is a huge resemblance in all the world's deities. Also a couple of innacurancies like saying HORUS is the god of Sun, and he isnt, the egyptian god of the sun is Ra (amun-ra). However imo its the least important part of the movie, its interesting in the way of all the matches but where is the importance in proving a random carpenter existed or not 2,000 years ago there is no possible way to prove it or to disprove it, but why even bother, its not relevant unless you are a catholic, and if you are a catholic that probably wont make u stop believe anyway. I also researched about the banking institution and i couldnt find a single inaccurancy, and the most scary of all is that before watching the movie i knew about IG Farben and American Oil Standard because my dad is like the sickest WW2 encyclopedia so i know a lot of it, i also verified that scary quote from Woodrow wilson admitting that he sold the country to a few dominant men. What you didnt find out is that Woodrow said those stuff in 1912! source Feds act was signed DEC 1913. So right there you should just get a copy of the movie and throw it down the toilet. Also on American Oil and IGfarben. When there is war there is STILL trade going on. So who cares if they were selling stuff to germany? Also on Vietnam war part. Are you telling me Rockfeller owned factories in COMUNIST soviet union in the middle of the cold war?? If thats not enough it came as a bonus that they happen to be weapons and military equipment factories?? YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME! The lies in this movie is just sooo clear that people fail to see it.

Are you serious? you dont see anything wrong with Rockefeller providing resources to Nazi Germany when they were in war against the united states?!?!?!?!?!?! that is ok with you?

I never claimed Rockefeller had factories in the soviet union, nor the movie does.... Rockefeller forms part of the Central bank and any kind of war forces the government to loan hundreds of thousands of billions from the Central Bank increasing the national debt (curently at over 3 TRILLION), making them even richier, when theres war, rockefeller and his buddies dance.

On August 14 2008 00:27 Baal wrote: lol, the picture capaneo just take a second look at my picture, Firemen, dust flying everywhere... do you think this picture was taken after the clean-up job? LOL

OK so there is zero dust over Mexico city at night since there is no car moving?
Dust of such events such as huge building colapsing stay on the site for weeks. But even that is not irrelevant? Im showing you a picture of fireman doing the same EXACT cutting at some point after the collapse and you are saying that the picture you have shown was right after the collapse because there are dust in the air? Its new york for Gods sake!??

Also who said there was molten steel in WTC site? BTW why are you avoiding my two main starting questions?

not sure if this was in the movie (watched it a long time a go), but wasnt there some talk about a passport from one of the suspected terrorist landing on the streetside in New York city?

also i would not want to play hide and seek with Osama cuz that muthafucka can hide...

On August 14 2008 00:11 capaneo wrote: What you didnt find out is that Woodrow said those stuff in 1912! source Feds act was signed DEC 1913. So right there you should just get a copy of the movie and throw it down the toilet.

And im going to reply this alone cuz it deserves it...

""We have restricted credit, we have restricted opportunity, we have controlled development, and we have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated, governments in the civilized world--no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men." Excerpt frpm 1912 campaign speech "

Woodrow Wilson promised to sign the act in exchange of economical support in his campaign obviously before he was elected, he realized the dimensions of what he had promised to do and said that a campaign speech, way after he agreed with them for their support (his campaign was already in motion and funded by the Federal Bankers).

On August 14 2008 00:30 TheGuru wrote: Show nested quote + On August 13 2008 17:22 Baal wrote:   On August 13 2008 10:29 TheGuru wrote:   On August 13 2008 09:46 XeliN wrote: Kerosene (the fuel used in the jet planes) does not burn at a high enough temperature to melt steel, not even close That simple, undeniable fact (prove me wrong if you disagree) at the very worst, suggests that the portrayal of events by the US Government, Media e.t.c was not the exact reality of what happened and begs the question what did melt the steel? At worst George Bush got drunk and pressed the tewwowize button on his fisher price laptop, and when he woke up next morning, with dog breath and a headache, decided to cover up the whole thing. Just a thought, energy is also added by million of tons of building material falling down. I have no idea if it's enough to melt steel but it shouldn't be discarded. Loved the movie and it's seems very fishy, if a few americans lean to think objectively I guess it served it's purpose. omg did you even take physics 101 on highschool? a Tsunami has thousands of times more energy than the towers falling they it doesnt melt steel lol. energy =/= heat, momentum, inertia or acceleration does not randomly convert to heat melting steel what in the fuck... I'm actually a mechanical engineer thnx for asking, and I didn't claim that this was the explanation, comparing to the Tsunami is not smart though. A Tsunami is water which is very good at leading away energy/heat, air is not. The Tsunami had a lot more total energy of course but also distributed over a much larger area. Your last comment is really interesting, where exactly is the energy going if it doesn't transform to heat? I would claim the opposite, all energy from the "crash" would be converted to heat, if it is enough to melt steel I have no idea.

Im also a mechanical engineer thx for not asking , concrete and steel impact and friction generate very little to no heat at all, it even wouldnt cause a simple fire if there were not fuels presents, let alone melt steel, when a steel beam is torn into pieces the broken tips will be hot but not even at 5% of their melting temperature.

On August 14 2008 00:42 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On August 14 2008 00:11 capaneo wrote:   On August 13 2008 23:09 Baal wrote:   On August 13 2008 22:07 [vital]Myth wrote: k after reading thread i'm clearly not as "shocked" and "wowed" as before but few things cap i respect your opinions on the 9/11 part and am with you but can you provide citation or evidence that says the banking citations/quotes and the religious evidences are "just lies"? gna go back and see if i can research their facts now, but i mean did they really just completely make up all the facts they cited about the formation of the US federal reserve bank...? After watching the movie i did some research and i didnt find any matches on some of their claims, like claims of Horus being born from a virgin, or Mythra being bla bla bla, i couldnt find all the matches, however there is a huge resemblance in all the world's deities. Also a couple of innacurancies like saying HORUS is the god of Sun, and he isnt, the egyptian god of the sun is Ra (amun-ra). However imo its the least important part of the movie, its interesting in the way of all the matches but where is the importance in proving a random carpenter existed or not 2,000 years ago there is no possible way to prove it or to disprove it, but why even bother, its not relevant unless you are a catholic, and if you are a catholic that probably wont make u stop believe anyway. I also researched about the banking institution and i couldnt find a single inaccurancy, and the most scary of all is that before watching the movie i knew about IG Farben and American Oil Standard because my dad is like the sickest WW2 encyclopedia so i know a lot of it, i also verified that scary quote from Woodrow wilson admitting that he sold the country to a few dominant men. What you didnt find out is that Woodrow said those stuff in 1912! source Feds act was signed DEC 1913. So right there you should just get a copy of the movie and throw it down the toilet. Also on American Oil and IGfarben. When there is war there is STILL trade going on. So who cares if they were selling stuff to germany? Also on Vietnam war part. Are you telling me Rockfeller owned factories in COMUNIST soviet union in the middle of the cold war?? If thats not enough it came as a bonus that they happen to be weapons and military equipment factories?? YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME! The lies in this movie is just sooo clear that people fail to see it. Are you serious? you dont see anything wrong with Rockefeller providing resources to Nazi Germany when they were in war against the united states?!?!?!?!?!?! that is ok with you? I never claimed Rockefeller had factories in the soviet union, nor the movie does.... Rockefeller forms part of the Central bank and any kind of war forces the government to loan hundreds of thousands of billions from the Central Bank increasing the national debt (curently at over 3 TRILLION), making them even richier, when theres war, rockefeller and his buddies dance.

"Rockefeller had factories in the soviet union, nor the movie does"
Go to 92min:10sec in the movie and you will hear it!

Feds is controled and monitored by both the Congress and the President. It was created as an indipendece so that the goverment wont be able to influence it.
Fed was created to establish a more stable economy in US. And it is doing its job very very nicely since it was created compare to before it was created.

Feds rebate its profit back to treasury from wiki
"All profit after expenses is returned to the U.S. Treasury or contributed to the surplus capital of the Federal Reserve Banks "

capaneo, I think you should watch some of the videos I posted a while back. I'll do my best to answer your questions from my memory of the videos, but you have to bear with me that I'm only going to spend about 15 minutes writing this post and can't go and find all the sources to back up what I say.

1. If the government was behind 9/11, why would they want the towers to COLLAPSE? Wouldn't smashing planes into the buildings have the exact same effect?

I think the answer to this lies with who benefits from 9/11. First you have to stop thinking about governments and nations being the chief people in power: They are not. It is in fact the people who have massive deposits in the central banks of America, and throughout Europe. These people, such as Rothschilds, Whalburgs (sp?), Morgans, etc.

Now, when you have 2 huge towers like that collapse, SOMEONE is going to profit when they have to rebuild those towers. I can't remember the name of the construction company who was given permission to begin rebuilding, they are mentioned in the movie "Ring of Power" which I linked in an earlier post. Imagine if once those towers were rebuilt, you knocked them down again? You'd basically have a cycle where the bank profits immensely when they get the interest back on the loans they make to the construction company, and the workers of the construction company basically become slaves to continually rebuilding these two stupid buildings because they need to work in order to earn a pittance of money to pay their mortgages on their house (who was also loaned to them by banks).

When you take a step back and look at how all of society is interlinked and how the bank is basically at the TOP of the chain no matter what, you realize how basically the banks control everything, even the government who they loan money to, because EVERYONE is in debt to the bank in some way or another.

The phrase "the rich get richer and the poor get poorer" is quite interesting. It's true but a lot of people don't stop and think about why this is so. There are many ways of explaining this, one way is when you realize that only the bank knows how much money is in existence in the community. Let's say there's x amount of money in existence. The bank then prints some more money, say 0.5x. The people who are first recipients of this money possess the same buying power as if the total money in circulation was of x value, even though now it is 1.5x. As the money gradually circulates and gets filtered down lower and lower, from the government to the commissions to the managers to the workers, slowly people realize that the money in circulation has increased from x to 1.5x. To compensate this, inflation occurs to raise prices by 1.5 times to restore the status quo. But what has really happened here? The original recipients of the money had stronger buying power per dollar because prices hadn't rose yet. But when the money is circulated down to the menial laborers, inflation has occurred (who knows how long this takes, lets just guess at a 6 month lag) and the buying power of those same dollars has decreased.

You can then say "oh but then the pay rates of workers will all go up by 1.5x to restore the status quo entirely", but you know as well as I do that this system doesn't occur perfectly. If you have an uneven distribution of pay-rises, where bosses get 2x pay-rise and the menial workers get 1.25payrise, you immediately realize there has been an inequitable shift in who possess the true wealth. Another example is, just say everyone DOES eventually go to 1.5x pay rise, the timelag of this might be 1 YEAR from when the bank originally injected that money into the community. So for an entire 6months, those workers are struggling on a 1x wage when their buying power of the dollar has reduced by 0.66, and for that period of time they are 'poorer' than the original recipients of that money.

I know my explanations aren't entirely accurate, but I'm fairly sure if I sat down I could come up with a bunch of differential equations which explain these things in a more dynamic manner.

I have heard quotes from Woodrow Wilson when he was close to dying (again I can't remember my exact sources, I've been watching and reading so much during this past week) where he essentially says he feels he has ruined his country by giving the reserve bank the power to control the money.

I will watch "Ring of Power" again now, so I can accurately reference time points and names I refer to in this post, and I will edit this in due time so that I don't sound so vague.

On August 13 2008 04:00 Baal wrote: It is retarded to believe that the english monarchy is decendant from an imaginary cock sucking carpenter who lived over 2,000 years ago

wtf??? do u have a fkin clue what religion is? and btw i'm not a christian (but i used to be) but for fucks sake show some respect u fkin ignorant mexican bastard. die plz

another question - why would they bother with those planes, if demolition was enough to bring the building down?

On August 14 2008 02:42 SneakrFreakr wrote: another question - why would they bother with those planes, if demolition was enough to bring the building down?

Cause it was too obv. And also in america they love drama.

I belive Joker was behind this. As a matter of fact these sort of crap is well within Dark Knight plots.
Joker does it cause he is just one very bad dude.

but they could easily claim that bombs were planted by terrorists

oh and baal u say that one of the buildings was almost only governmental/cia or whatever. do u think cia agents are so retarted that they're not gonna realize that sth is going on? they wouldnt spot anything suspicious in such a complex undertaking? or maybe they thought: "ehh fuck it, why not, let's die so that bush can conquer the world"?

On August 14 2008 02:39 SneakrFreakr wrote: Show nested quote + On August 13 2008 04:00 Baal wrote: It is retarded to believe that the english monarchy is decendant from an imaginary cock sucking carpenter who lived over 2,000 years ago wtf??? do u have a fkin clue what religion is? and btw i'm not a christian (but i used to be) but for fucks sake show some respect u fkin ignorant mexican bastard. die plz

respect to peoples beliefs? nope sorry tolerance is just not in me, i think their beliefs are retarded so i say it out loud, i dont respect imaginary characters.

On August 14 2008 02:42 SneakrFreakr wrote: another question - why would they bother with those planes, if demolition was enough to bring the building down?

sight please READ THE TREAD, capaneo asked the same question not long ago.

Because it would be impossible for a terrorists to plan hundreds of demolition charges in the 3 buildings of the WTC and the pentagon withouth being noticed.

so how come bush's people werent noticed?

On August 14 2008 02:59 SneakrFreakr wrote: oh and baal u say that one of the buildings was almost only governmental/cia or whatever. do u think cia agents are so retarted that they're not gonna realize that sth is going on? they wouldnt spot anything suspicious in such a complex undertaking? or maybe they thought: "ehh fuck it, why not, let's die so that bush can conquer the world"?

the WTC 7 did infact have CIA, IRS and DoD offices, however most of it were other institutions like banks and insurance companies, also there werent any people in the WTC 7 afaik since it collapsed much much later than the twin towers and it was evacuated, not that there were many people in it anyway.