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Sheitan   Canada. Aug 09 2008 10:49. Posts 4217 | | |
Peachy, i don't like to argue either over the internet this is just plain stupid since people are not the same as if they were having a real conversation, the nicest guys can transform into the biggest douchebags online and i sincerely don't give a fuck.
Wikipedia is not a reliable source ? What about RSF then ? An international organism who have been fighting for decades for the human rights everywhere in the world, can we give them a little credit ? I understand you separate Olympics from the chinese governement but i think you shouldn't, chinese people are great people and they deserve we fight for their rights as they're oppressed. Just so you know you probably were a child when i was watching the Tien An Men massacre on TV.
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n0rthf4ce   United States. Aug 09 2008 11:09. Posts 8119 | | |
| | On August 09 2008 09:49 Sheitan wrote:
Peachy, i don't like to argue either over the internet this is just plain stupid since people are not the same as if they were having a real conversation, the nicest guys can transform into the biggest douchebags online and i sincerely don't give a fuck.
Wikipedia is not a reliable source ? What about RSF then ? An international organism who have been fighting for decades for the human rights everywhere in the world, can we give them a little credit ? I understand you separate Olympics from the chinese governement but i think you shouldn't, chinese people are great people and they deserve we fight for their rights as they're oppressed. Just so you know you probably were a child when i was watching the Tien An Men massacre on TV.
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I apologize for the comment insulting your intelligence and for calling you ignorant. RSF is certainly a reliable source and believe me, I am not a fan of what the Chinese government has been or done for the last 30 years. I think the Olympics are a great thing though, and I suppose that is a difference of opinion or a difference of point of view. For me, it represents a milestone for the Chinese people, who have finally not only risen in terms of production, technology, and international importance, but also represents a growing country that needs less and less of its bullshit government and leans more towards democracy every day. I guess if it represents the Chinese government for all its ugliness (which it shouldn't), boycotting it would be logical. |
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Sheitan   Canada. Aug 09 2008 11:24. Posts 4217 | | |
No need to apologize maybe my first post was too short and you couldn't know i was blaming the government and not the people, i strongly believe China will open up in the coming years and we will see a "peaceful revolution" that will give back freedom and inalienable human rights to its people. And i think we have a role to play in this, Beijing is a premium occasion to show to the dictators who are baffling human rights on a daily basis that we actually CARE by boycotting it and everything they can organize. The message is simple: If they want to be a part of the "free world", they have to stop oppressing chinese and tibetian people.
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CrownRoyal   United States. Aug 09 2008 11:30. Posts 11386 | | |
sheitan you're way out of line |
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lachlan   Australia. Aug 09 2008 11:52. Posts 6991 | | |
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sheitan you're way out of line |
it doesn't matter what stakes u play if its not about poker, as long as sheitans not calling someone a faggot or something |
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Cro)Deadman   Croatia. Aug 09 2008 11:54. Posts 3943 | | |
| | On August 09 2008 10:30 CrownRoyal wrote:
sheitan you're way out of line |
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Highcard   Canada. Aug 09 2008 14:26. Posts 5428 | | | |
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Bejamin1   Canada. Aug 09 2008 17:03. Posts 7042 | | |
The Olympics are a good thing for China particularly because foreign media will likely gain unprecedented access to the country. China is not going to be able to keep a lid on things or create publication bans on certain issues with so many people visiting the country all at once. That being said in terms of human rights the U.N. and other international pressure systems can only do so much. There comes a time when the people of a country have to decide for themselves that they are unwilling to put up with a situation any longer -- i.e revolution. There are certainly actions that can be taken by the international community to encourage positive changes in China to happen more quickly but they have to be done tactfully by the international community. |
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lebowski   Greece. Aug 09 2008 18:35. Posts 9205 | | |
| | On August 09 2008 09:06 n0rthf4ce wrote:
What do the Olympics, an international sign of peace and community that transcends the boundaries of government rule or religious bias have to do with the Chinese government, or any government for that matter? Its the biggest sporting event in the world meant to develop friendly ties or strengthen previous ones between peoples of different nations. |
the olympics are the biggest sporting event,
but you're really getting it wrong if you see ideals behind it. I mean,it surely involves financial/commercial benefits etc but it's clearly not closely related to the ancient olympics and its philosophy in a million ways.
It's a big fiesta,which means buisiness, and has been used several times for political expediencies (I'm not saying that the ancient ones were perfect too).
But yea ,I guess developing friendly ties between people is a side benefit (frienship between nations has nothing to do with it though)
lets be a bit more accurate here |
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dongcopter   United States. Aug 09 2008 18:59. Posts 22 | | |
The opening ceremony was so epic. Although, if the city got rid of most of that infamous smog, the fireworks probably created more.
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YoMeR   United States. Aug 09 2008 19:25. Posts 12438 | | |
man the drum show was the sickness.
fucking crazy chinese shit yo. |
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YoMeR   United States. Aug 09 2008 19:26. Posts 12438 | | |
btw how does so many of these threads become a retarded political debates? it's not like either side will change their opinions or have any intention of doing so in the first place.
wasted effort imo. |
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TwistedEcho   United Kingdom. Aug 09 2008 20:14. Posts 3539 | | |
less crying from sheitan, more focus on olympics!!
Phelps is a fking machine |
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PoorUser   United States. Aug 09 2008 21:24. Posts 7472 | | |
officialness of thread cleared up -_-
yeah wtf more olympic talk plz |
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kantoiki   Australia. Aug 09 2008 21:29. Posts 3818 | | |
Australia won it's first gold medal yay! |
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Cray0ns   United States. Aug 09 2008 22:20. Posts 993 | | | |
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YoMeR   United States. Aug 09 2008 22:57. Posts 12438 | | |
lol @ curling. the most hilarious sport ever invented ;D |
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ahk88   United States. Aug 10 2008 02:01. Posts 635 | | |
go us basketball against china |
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