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Jonoman92   United States. Jul 25 2008 01:35. Posts 280

Hi, i'm a sc player and pretty new to poker. I've seen the mention of software that can be used with pokerstars that gives info on your opponents passiveness/aggression and I was wondering where I could dl it and if anyone has tips for how to best utilize it that would be cool too.

I tried searching but didn't find what I was looking for. Go ahead and close it if you can link me to something where this has already been answered/discussed.

-thanks

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[vital]Myth    United States. Jul 25 2008 01:49. Posts 12159

www.pokertracker.com

Eh, I can go a few more orbits in life, before taxes blind me out - PoorUser 

[vital]Myth    United States. Jul 25 2008 01:49. Posts 12159

also check out www.cardrunners.com

!!

Eh, I can go a few more orbits in life, before taxes blind me out - PoorUserLast edit: 25/07/2008 01:50

hawking   United States. Jul 25 2008 02:03. Posts 348

www.holdemmanager.net is my personal fav. Just a little more user friendly IMO.

Site has been updated it seems. I almost had a seizure.

hawking: What do you do when a fish targets you? --- Breeze: What to do when a hot girl starts hitting your dick with her ass? 

r2!!   Colombia. Jul 25 2008 02:06. Posts 123

pt its cool


SneakrFreakr   United Kingdom. Jul 25 2008 03:17. Posts 2534

HM > PT

rivered for my fucking bankroll - NeillyJQ 

kimseongchan   United States. Jul 25 2008 03:19. Posts 2089


  On July 25 2008 02:17 SneakrFreakr wrote:
HM > PT


fenner   Australia. Jul 25 2008 03:32. Posts 2188

PT > HM (ive never used HM)


Garfed   Malta. Jul 25 2008 05:20. Posts 4818


  On July 25 2008 02:32 fenner wrote:
PT > HM (ive never used HM)


If u didint, how can u give opinion on which one is better?


Darki   Peru. Jul 25 2008 05:51. Posts 687


  On July 25 2008 04:20 DeFraG wrote:
Show nested quote +


If u didint, how can u give opinion on which one is better?


lol so true i hate when people give opinions without trying or without knowing both

i just used PT2 and a little PT3 but i must say Hold em manager looks even better i think i will give it a try

http://reavermicro.blogspot.com/ actualizado 2013!!Last edit: 25/07/2008 05:57

sOah   United Kingdom. Jul 25 2008 06:02. Posts 4527


  On July 25 2008 02:32 fenner wrote:
PT > HM (ive never used HM)



you seem very intelligent!

not all who wander are lost 

Shabbzoy   United Kingdom. Jul 25 2008 06:26. Posts 841

i never used PT3 but pretty sure HM is better than PT2 in every way(also built in HUD doesnt give any retarded illusion to the full price)


Baalim   Mexico. Jul 25 2008 06:39. Posts 34312

PT > God

but i dont believe in god

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro Online 

hippietoker420   United States. Jul 25 2008 06:54. Posts 29


  On July 25 2008 04:20 DeFraG wrote:
Show nested quote +


If u didint, how can u give opinion on which one is better?


quoted for time posted


hansen   Sweden. Jul 25 2008 07:44. Posts 1964


  On July 25 2008 02:17 SneakrFreakr wrote:
HM > PT


this is true x293023

 Last edit: 25/07/2008 07:44

Logiabs~   Colombia. Jul 25 2008 08:13. Posts 9133


  On July 25 2008 02:17 SneakrFreakr wrote:
HM > PT


ChromaX   Bulgaria. Jul 25 2008 08:20. Posts 392

HM>PT
PT crashes alot , many of the features doesnt work propperly, also HM supports much more poker rooms

AA is only a pair MUPPET - the guy who cracked my AA calling AI pf with QJ 

Baalim   Mexico. Jul 25 2008 09:22. Posts 34312

PT just released a new beta and its much better

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Yugless    United States. Jul 25 2008 09:28. Posts 7174

HM > PT (and i've never used HM)

Baal - look is talking hah.  

BadGoNe   France. Jul 25 2008 09:31. Posts 1089

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TenBagger   United States. Jul 25 2008 11:49. Posts 2018

I've had PT2 for quite some time now but I stopped using it because it would slow down my computer so much that it would drive me crazy. I just bought HM and I think it is far superior to PT2 in every way.


Logiabs~   Colombia. Jul 25 2008 11:54. Posts 9133


  On July 25 2008 10:49 TenBagger wrote:
I've had PT2 for quite some time now but I stopped using it because it would slow down my computer so much that it would drive me crazy. I just bought HM and I think it is far superior to PT2 in every way.





QFT BABY


Royal_Rumble   Germany. Jul 25 2008 12:40. Posts 1760

i bought pt3 a few days ago, runs very stable and good and i have an old machine here.
I like it though i never tried HM. I put in all my old HHs, that's about 150k of hands, but still running smooth, nice piece of software if you ask me.

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k2o4   United States. Jul 25 2008 14:52. Posts 4803

HM is the best and much easier to set up than pt2 + PAH and PT3 is full of bugs.

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ggplz   Sweden. Jul 25 2008 15:04. Posts 16784

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhANLast edit: 01/03/2010 10:10

ggplz   Sweden. Jul 25 2008 15:18. Posts 16784

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhANLast edit: 01/03/2010 10:09

ggplz   Sweden. Jul 25 2008 16:44. Posts 16784

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhANLast edit: 01/03/2010 10:09

Shabbzoy   United Kingdom. Jul 25 2008 17:04. Posts 841

why you wanna disable the big popup?
love that thing, great for checking positional stuffs


keuner   Germany. Jul 25 2008 17:28. Posts 1535


  On July 25 2008 08:28 Yugless wrote:
HM > PT (and i've never used HM)



is it ur way to show emancipation?

lol hepatitis is like roulette it depends which letter you get - rockman255 

Babs   Australia. Jul 25 2008 20:00. Posts 1178

PT2 runs perfectly in every way, you're not using it properly if it doesn't.

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake - Napolean Bonaparte 

TimDawg    United States. Jul 25 2008 23:53. Posts 10197

i've heard the HEM is a lot better but i've only used PT2

in one of Krantz' videos he was saying HEM was so good that it's almost like cheating lol

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball 

SuperElmo   Bulgaria. Jul 26 2008 02:01. Posts 112

HM us cheaper for micro stakes - 55$,also has more statistics and is lighter than PT3.

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ggplz   Sweden. Jul 26 2008 02:06. Posts 16784

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhANLast edit: 01/03/2010 10:09

ggplz   Sweden. Jul 26 2008 02:15. Posts 16784

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhANLast edit: 01/03/2010 10:09

Shabbzoy   United Kingdom. Jul 26 2008 05:04. Posts 841


  On July 26 2008 01:15 ggplz wrote:
Show nested quote +



what exactly do you use the popup stats for?

seems to me atm like 99% of the time i misclick on it (i click a lot randomly) and i get this huge annoying popup over the table

maybe if i notice something while doing session review that i'd use often, i'll add it to the hud layout idk


Stuff like %steal from small blind(some people will never really steal here, others will really take the piss)
cbets and fold to cbets in 3bet pots could be pretty helpful
you can see if someones ever raised utg and how positionally aware they are

How often their 3bets are from IP and how often they are 3betting from blinds
W$WSF if you think someone seems to be pushing the table around
how much of someones VPIP is from calling opens vs limping
steal limped pot can be useful sometimes(some people will just minbet every limped pot and its easy to not care)

donk bet% another handy one if you see someone doing it


Just a lot of stats really that theres no point in having up all the time, but if the opponent makes a certain action you can easily check if hes getting away with too much.

EDIT: Checkraising frequencies another pretty great one if you see someone at the extremes of usual range

 Last edit: 26/07/2008 05:14

Loco   Canada. Jul 26 2008 05:35. Posts 21022

im switching to HEM next month fosho

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount 

ggplz   Sweden. Jul 26 2008 05:45. Posts 16784

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhANLast edit: 01/03/2010 10:09

Shabbzoy   United Kingdom. Jul 26 2008 06:52. Posts 841

Fair enough, i just find it nice to have statistical confirmation of my suspicions

of course you should try and notice a lot of these things but its less likely to be short term variance if you can compare with the total sample of hands you might have missed and werent involved in


If you have the ability to take mental note of every bit of action on the table and everyones frequencies then obv thats great, i just personally have severe concentration issues for ring games(id probably not even miss a hud in HU play) and i like to know if im jumping the gun on any of my reads


ggplz   Sweden. Jul 26 2008 08:15. Posts 16784

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhANLast edit: 01/03/2010 10:09

CrownRoyal   United States. Jul 26 2008 09:00. Posts 11386

ggplz if you can mentally do all that why do you even use a hud? What difference is there in vpip and fold to cbet % really, they are both stats that give you information and stats you can manipulate easily mentally

(I'm not berating you i dont use a hud either because i think it's ridiculous)

WHAT IS THIS 

ggplz   Sweden. Jul 26 2008 09:04. Posts 16784

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhANLast edit: 01/03/2010 10:09

lachlan   Australia. Jul 26 2008 09:51. Posts 6991

hud is extremely important i find for full ring at least

full ring 

Alex Poker   . Mar 01 2010 09:32. Posts 2

Check here.


iop   Sweden. Mar 01 2010 09:36. Posts 4953


  On March 01 2010 08:32 Alex Poker wrote:
Check here.



lol how can you not be banned Alex Iosilevsky?

And if you are doing this from a SEO standpoint, think again... (hint hint NOFOLLOW hint hint)

Milkman lol i didnt spend half a thousand on a phone so i could play it cool and be all stealthLast edit: 01/03/2010 10:12

lebowski   Greece. Mar 01 2010 09:58. Posts 9205

geez logiabs was annoying,wasn't he?

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

[GiTM]-Ace   United States. Mar 01 2010 14:42. Posts 1585

lol oh no wonder.. im reading thru the thread like wtf why are people still using PT2

[GiTM]- GoSu in the Making 

CrownRoyal   United States. Mar 01 2010 15:12. Posts 11386

wtf i wonder what i was talking to ggplz about he erased everything he wrote

ps i use a hud now but i honestly don't know what a thing on it means besides vpip/pfr/3b%

i miss playing on cake with no hud, i don't want to use the stupid thing now but i feel like it's just burning money by not doing so...

WHAT IS THISLast edit: 01/03/2010 15:16

 



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