set of Kings on the river by Joe - Page 2

im a nit but omg i can sleep getting stacked in this spot with aa. both of u guys wanted more value and went a little tricky . you both deserve this cooler imo. lol

I think you should fold.

On July 16 2008 16:56 AndrewSong wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2008 16:52 Baal wrote: never flat, how is he a solid regular here checking AA behind on that flop, if he has AA sick set-up, get it in. Why wouldn't a solid regular check here with AA? I check aces here 150bb+ deep atleast 30% of the time and most of the decent regulars in 2/4+ plays it the same way. Your underestimating how tight UTG's raise is against UTG+1 3bet. Solid reg at UTG will only setmine and i doubt he'd just flat OOP with AK(Possibly even fold).

if he calls only to set-mine then he is a fish, so we return to the same point...

also if he is set mining this is an easy all-in

the only logical reason for flatting here is saving chips amirite? then just fold dont flat imo
i respect higher stakes players who crush but for 150bbs this is a little too nitty even for me, maybe if it were as deep as marshalls 600 vs 800bbs type but here never flat for 150bbs

wow unless this opponent is playing 2/1.2/0 then i'm shoving. also why no cbet on the flop?

30 into 127 pot - that made my day, Hi Phil... " welcome to valuecity " :D

On July 16 2008 17:58 thewh00sel wrote: Joe, you're way too tight to be playing full ring. o_O

damn, is that possible?

easiest push eva

wtf i dont want to be mean but i dont think he have a set of aces here because he didnt bet on the flop also i think he raised you on the river because you made such a small value bet he could easily have a set of 6,2 or 9 i would either push or re raise 2x if he have aces then its a stupid cooler

Dont be results oriented.

I hate this because you know you have to shove and you know that the god damn assfaggot has AA pretty often, lol.

However, in your heart you know it's a push^^.

wat?

lol @ non nits giving full ring advice...

vs very solid regs this is a obv call

vs others i guess reshove

Obviously a push, AK is definitely in his range, not mentioning some weaker strangely played hands or random crap he might turn up with occassionally (possibly also AsQs).

And no, playing FR doesn't necessarilly mean nitting it up.

On July 17 2008 10:01 Pulda wrote: Obviously a push, AK is definitely in his range, not mentioning some weaker strangely played hands or random crap he might turn up with occassionally (possibly also AsQs). And no, playing FR doesn't necessarilly mean nitting it up.

I'm a semi-regular at both 1-2 6 max and FR.I don't think 6 max players realize that it's almost not even the same game at FR.People don't 3 bet UTG raisers in UTG+1 with AQs (especially not this particular reg which I am quite familiar with). You can't even make the case that he's polarizing his 3 betting to an UTG raiser cause the reality is that almost all regs in FR 1/2 don't do this. Hell, in FR, lots of regs even flat JJ QQ in UTG+1 to UTG raise. His range here is AA, KK and AK, which leaves us with AK, AA. I even think ( not saying it is correct) that this particular player flats AK on the river the vast majority of the time because he might think you were set mining and were going for CR on flop with flopped set, and decided to bet river for value. IMO, he has AA 90% of the time here, and AK 10%. I certainly can't fault a push, but the extremely nitty dynamics + nitty reg make a fold a least an option to be considered.

Even if his range here is AA,AK only its still a good shove cuz he wont ever fold AK and he has it as often as AA.

lol @ all the NL50 and lower players comment here and not knowing the player, AFAIK, this guy is super nitty, well, all of them are at FR. I would shove here happily with the 2nd nuts after making a very tricky bet on the river, if I'm beat, I insta post the hand on LP, say something trashy and whine about how bad i run, then move up and keep playing.

On July 17 2008 03:15 Darki wrote: wtf i dont want to be posting when i know nothing about nl200 fr but i dont think he have a set of aces here because he didnt bet on the flop also i think he raised you on the river because you made such a small value bet he could easily have a set of 6,2 or 9 i would either push or re raise 2x if he have aces then its a stupid cooler

lol @ putting him on a set of 6,2 or 9s. No regular FR nit raises utg+1 with such PPs, and if he did well he was probably sweating hard and jumping in excitement for making something new, but in this case I highly doubt he raises utg to $24 with 22,66,99.

On July 17 2008 03:15 Darki wrote: wtf i dont want to be mean but i dont think he have a set of aces here because he didnt bet on the flop also i think he raised you on the river because you made such a small value bet he could easily have a set of 6,2 or 9 i would either push or re raise 2x if he have aces then its a stupid cooler

There is a higher probability that a monkey wins the main event then a FR nit regular re-raising 22, 66, 99 in UTG+1. I don't want to be mean, but every part of your analysis is terrible.