Wow, Nintendo: Burn in hell. - Page 3

Ket, where the masses go does not reflect the quality of the gaming system. This is shown historically, and it shows now. Sony basically won their popularity contest over Nintendo because 1. Nintendo were arrogant to 3rd parties and charging huge royalty fees for developing games on their cartridges, 2. Sony PlayStation was a CD based console, making it far more attractive to 3rd parties to develop for in terms of cost and storage capacity and 3. CDs are easily pirated, hence the masses happily buy a console which you can chip and have unlimited access to games for $1 each.

Now, what happened here was that Nintendo's games NEVER lost their quality: All throughout the N64 and Gamecube years, Nintendo 1st party games were incredibly playable, fun, and well-made. The only reason Nintendo lost these N64vsPS and GCNvsPS2 wars was because they lacked the game volume supplied by 3rd parties (90% of which are terrible games anyway), and hence all of the big-name developers such as Capcom, Konami, Square, Enix etc. all moved their previously Nintendo based franchises over to Sony. The key thing to realise here is, Sony themselves never really developed any stunning 1st party games. All they had going for them was a good install base among the masses (as previously mentioned not due to their own merit, but to Nintendo's stubbornness regarding 3rd party developers, the ease of piracy of their games, and the fact the ps2 doubled as a DVD player when the technology was new).

People like me how ever did purchase the N64 and GCN. We supported Nintendo even though the casual masses had abandoned them. We endured the drought of games on their systems, because the inevitability of receiving a good quality game for our wait was well worth it. How ever, it just wasn't enough. To fill in the time (and my lust for quality games), I had no choice but to purchase a PS/PS2 so I could play games such as FF series, Castlevania and MGS (which were originally based on Nintendo consoles). Hence, my slight bias against Sony developed here: Sony's emergence onto the console scene had merely driven up the cost of gaming for me. I now have to own 2 consoles to enjoy all the games which I would have previously enjoyed on Nintendo consoles. Not only that, the success of Sony's console went on to these earlier mentioned developers creating brand new IPs such as Resident Evil and Devil May Cry, exclusive only to Sony consoles. Meanwhile, what did Sony themselves ever contribute to gaming? Gran Turismo (which I personally don't like, but I will not degrade the quality of the game because I know a good game when I see one) and God of War. They're the only 2 good franchises that I've seen Sony create in the 15 years they've been in the market.

I really like Mario Kart and Smash Bros.

On July 16 2008 06:45 Ket wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2008 04:54 Staindred wrote:   On July 15 2008 12:19 Ket wrote: do you really feel theyve wronged u and they owe u for supporting them when no one else would, LOL wtf? this is business, if they did that theyd be busto. Just for the record, YES, nintendo does owe its core fanbase. The only reason they could survive the sony/microsoft onslaught was becouse of fanboys that kept supporting/buying their nintendo 64 and gamecube stuff. if it was for the masses nintendo would be broke by now or at least confined to the handheld market. the reasons nintendo survived the gamecube, are the people who are now looking at nintendo's line-up saying "omfglolwtfhappenhere". now i dont mind them releasing generic shit for their system, the more cash for them the better, but that doesnt mean they can sit on their asses releasing only 3-4 worthwhile games a year. what are u talking about. the reason nintendo survived the gamecube was the wii and their paradigm shift to appeal to the casual gamer. the wii made console gaming much more mainstream with something for all the family. wii sales were ridiculous. there arent enough of u hardcore gamer oldschool nintendo fanboys left to make a difference so nintendo barely need u anymore. thats why the n64 and cube got crushed by ps and ps2/xbox and why the wii is the biggest selling seventh generation console by a long way. ofcourse theyre gonna sit on their asses with regards to first party nintendo franchise games targeted at the hardcore gamers. shouldnt u be happy with mario, zelda, smash bros and whatever other efforts nintendo have already made for u? isnt 3-4 titles a year for you enough? or do u guys expect too much. am i wrong?

maybe you should read first, reply later.....

i was talking about the n64/gamecube period, has nothing to do with the "wii and their paradigm shift to appeal to the casual gamer".

Now i could go on and on about your post not making any sense at all as to what i posted but fuckit imma go to sleep..

I remember as a kid playing Mike Tyson's Punch Out on the NES and getting repeatadly pwned by Tyson for dayz....that era was Nintendo's golden age for me. Now, the majority of Nintendo's games have not appeal to me whatsoever.

On July 17 2008 21:13 phonetic wrote: I remember as a kid playing Mike Tyson's Punch Out on the NES and getting repeatadly pwned by Tyson for dayz....that era was Nintendo's golden age for me. Now, the majority of Nintendo's games have not appeal to me whatsoever.

its called maturing

On July 15 2008 12:34 Trey wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2008 11:27 thundza wrote: Microsoft conferences was much better . Xbox 360 is good . This. Getting Final Fantasy on the 360 is pretty much the best news ever.

so true. was about to buy a PS3 just to play FF13, but now Xbox 360 gets it and saves me some money. Xbox 360 >>>>> PS3 by a long shot

wii graphics blow if u play it on any hdtv

thats my 2 cents on the quality of nintendo games

they become unplayable after playin ps3 games

On July 17 2008 23:29 JYang wrote: wii graphics blow if u play it on any hdtv thats my 2 cents on the quality of nintendo games they become unplayable after playin ps3 games

very true.

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I think Nintendo just went up a few notches in your book PokerDoc .

What an attention whore. She needs a 2x4 across the face.

nintendo made tons of crappy games in the golden days too you're all just nostalgic

I've been loyal to Nintendo since super nintendo also, but getting a gamecube was a huge mistake. I wanted it soooo badly for SSBM but I really should've gotten a PS2 or an XBOX. Gamecube just.... doesn't really have any decent games and I don't think i'd even consider buying a wii.