NL200 value betting this riv for a call..?

how would you play this hand differently to extract the maximum amount of chips or did i play this ok? did i play the flop wrong?

Submitted by : TT1

PokerStars Game #18822838627: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2008/07/14 - 18:42:07 (ET)
Table 'La Silla' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: CMOT_Donkey ($592.15 in chips)
Seat 2: BertBlufffff ($207.50 in chips)
Seat 3: pedroyy ($275.75 in chips)
Seat 4: Grashupfer ($200 in chips)
Seat 5: iampayam ($374.85 in chips)
Seat 6: funkeemonkee ($368 in chips)
pedroyy: posts small blind $1
Grashupfer: posts big blind $2

Holecards
Dealt to iampayam
iampayam : raises $6 to $8
funkeemonkee: calls $8
CMOT_Donkey: folds
BertBlufffff: calls $8
pedroyy: folds
Grashupfer: folds

Flop (Pot : $27.00)

   
pedroyy leaves the table
iampayam : checks
funkeemonkee: bets $18
BertBlufffff: calls $18
iampayam : raises $22 to $40
funkeemonkee: calls $22
BertBlufffff: folds

Turn (Pot : $125.00)

   
iampayam : bets $90
funkeemonkee: calls $90

River (Pot : $305.00)

   
iampayam : bets $150
WushuTM joins the table at seat #3
funkeemonkee: folds
Uncalled bet ($150) returned to iampayam
iampayam collected $302 from pot
iampayam : doesn't show hand

Summary
Total pot $305 | Rake $3
Board  
Seat 1: CMOT_Donkey folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: BertBlufffff (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: pedroyy (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Grashupfer (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: iampayam collected ($302)
Seat 6: funkeemonkee folded on the River

you have the aggression pre, i would for sure just keep firing flop. Obvious your c/r is to small, its both a caller in between and the board has 3 cordinated cards and you miniraise...? Make it 60 for sure and nearly pot turn, hmm not sure about turn actually, just make it so the river is an ez shove (if not the worst card in the deck comes like now).

Imo you played flop and river pretty bad, i mean wtf is that river bet, you gonna b/f, b/c? maybe AK calls you... but most of the time he has a 10 or fold, if you c/c you at least give him a chance to bluff the pot if he realizez hes behind.

edit: actually i dunno about river, maybe your bet is good if hes really stationess and will look you up with alot of 2p combos.

a 10 is pretty much impossible here imo..

why? imo he plays it very much like K10, Q10 maybe even J10

all those hands except j10s is most likely a fold preflop and if not its a guarenteed fold after the turn

This is beyond horrible.... the pt on the flop is $62 and you raise 22 more... what in the hell?

BTW any Pair+T is calling 2 barrels.

raise flop more... but i like leading pot here

On July 14 2008 19:10 Baal wrote: This is beyond horrible.... the pt on the flop is $62 and you raise 22 more... what in the hell?

gotta quote baal here... raise size is brutal. I'd probably just lead pot all 3 streets.

On July 14 2008 18:38 TT1 wrote: all those hands except j10s is most likely a fold preflop and if not its a guarenteed fold after the turn

You haven't included any reads so I'm gonna assume the players are random 1/2 fish.

And if you think random 1/2 fish fold KT or QT preflop then lol.

I'd play this board super fast probably, a ton of pair+draw type hands will call you. Dunno if pot pot small bet is better than pot pot pot since if he hasn't raised you before the river I suppose his hand will be more weighted towards JT/KT/QT than 2pair (this is assuming the river isn't an ace btw).

jesus
this is fuckin horrible

i jack it up to like 75-85 on the flop and 3/4 the turn probably or enough so i have about 1/2-pot sized bet left for the river depending on the player.

Bet $22 on the flop and play for stacks, if he just calls fire the turn hard and get it in. What you did is very very very bad.

make standart cbet and try to get it in as fast as u can
and the river bet .......
this is tilt bet any T shove and any other hand folds
you gain nothing,and u loose everithing
beter to c/c if u are 100% shure that he dont have T

tt1 is probably busto by now no need for more advice

Def make it like 80 on the flop and ship it in
btw just bet out this flop, you would bet all your air so a c/r here looks ridic strong to people with half a brain.

no but frustrated after playing 60 hours in 1 week and gaining 20$ on nl200 i feel like i make no progression and i get so weak mentally. havnt touched poker since like a week and a half and i have to focus on how to 5pool fayth and loco anyways

wtf FPS. this is a good hand to pot/pot/shove

On August 21 2008 16:09 n0rthf4ce wrote: wtf FPS. this is a good hand to pot/pot/shove

On July 15 2008 09:17 Logiabs~ wrote: jesus this is fuckin horrible

i make flop $60 and shove turn.
random 200nl players Always call with pair+T and sure as shit always hit river

BTW I wanna know What in the fuckin world this fuckin moron BertBlufffff has.
He calls 18 into 45 with the raiser behind him. Then he folds 22 into 125?!?!!!!! OMFG These people tilts the shit outta me when I see them in casino.

Submitted by : capaneo

PokerStars Game #19815790322: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2008/08/22 - 16:16:00 (ET)
Table 'Alsafi' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: sucout ($202 in chips)
Seat 2: mentalo09 ($195.75 in chips)
Seat 3: fan de junon ($171.40 in chips)
Seat 4: Chri$ Han$en ($124.30 in chips)
Seat 5: benigna ($226.65 in chips)
Seat 6: dymarko ($60 in chips)
Seat 7: capaneo ($207 in chips)
Seat 8: pappaone ($110.75 in chips)
Seat 9: Günther1986 ($49.65 in chips)
sucout: posts small blind $1
mentalo09: posts big blind $2

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to capaneo
fan de junon: calls $2
Chri$ Han$en: calls $2
benigna: calls $2
dymarko: folds
capaneo : raises $10 to $12
pappaone: folds
Günther1986: folds
sucout: folds
mentalo09: folds
fan de junon: calls $10
Chri$ Han$en: folds
benigna: calls $10

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $41.00)

   
fan de junon: bets $14
benigna: calls $14
capaneo : raises $28 to $42
fan de junon: calls $28
benigna: folds

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $139.00)

   
fan de junon: checks
capaneo : bets $153 and is all-in
fan de junon: calls $117.40 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($35.60) returned to capaneo

River (Pot : $373.80)

   

Showdown
fan de junon: shows (two pair, Queens and Nines)
capaneo : mucks hand
fan de junon collected $370.80 from pot

Summary
Total pot $373.80 | Rake $3
Board  
Seat 1: sucout (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: mentalo09 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: fan de junon showed and won ($370.80) with two pair, Queens and Nines
Seat 4: Chri$ Han$en folded before Flop
Seat 5: benigna folded on the Flop
Seat 6: dymarko folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: capaneo mucked
Seat 8: pappaone folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Günther1986 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)