UFC 86 countdown

Since I searched and didn't see any threads for this event tonight, I Figure fox, nazgul, and keanu are busy so I'll make it!
These are the Bodog lines, with my picks(bets) for each fight in bold. Most of my picks are skewed heavily by the odds though.

Corey Hill
-225
vs
Justin Buchholz
+185

Gabriel Gonzaga
-500
vs
Justin McCully
+350

Jorge Gurgel
EVEN
vs
Cole Miller
-130

Melvin Guillard
-240
vs
Dennis Siver
+190

Tyson Griffin
-280
vs
Marcus Aurelio
+220

Josh Koscheck
-360
vs
Chris Lytle
+280

Joe Stevenson
-260
vs
Gleison Tibau
+200

Patrick Cote
+110
vs
Ricardo Almeida
-140

Quinton Jackson
-275
vs
Forrest Griffin
+215

Koscheck, Joe Daddy, Almeida and Rampage are my guesses

tyson grifffffffffffin love him and i hope forrest and patrick cote win

Man i've been so busy with work i forgot to blog this bleh =[

can't wait for griffin vs jackson

So far I look like a fool :D

any live streams?

WOW so far this is the most boring UFC i've ever seen, hopefully the ME will save the day, go Rampage pwn that white lil bitch !

Gawrwah! My cable went out just before the main event!!! It's not back on yet WTF

YES BABY TAKE IT HOME FORREST1111!!!!!!!
wow sick fight forrest got caught with alot of shots .. any of those would knock you out easily

w00t. Brought me out of the red haha

Anyone got the video from the main event? Was reading the play by play and was rather surprised by the judges scores.

Overall a boring card but the ME was great.

On July 05 2008 22:32 NotSorry wrote: Anyone got the video from the main event? Was reading the play by play and was rather surprised by the judges scores.

No video link, but watching it the judges decision seemed pretty clear.

I couldn't believe jackson won, i just cant, i wanted rampage wo knock him out

On July 06 2008 08:07 mrpav.com wrote: I couldn't believe jackson won, i just cant, i wanted rampage wo knock him out

Jackson didn't win. What fight were you watching?

one of the most boring cards ive seen. in any org.

but i think almeida won rounds 1 & 3 pretty clearly.

also i think rampage won. it was really close though so i wont argue to much. everyone wants an immediate rematch but i dont. i wanna see wanderlei vs rampage. hopefully they do that instead of the rumored wand vs thiago silva.

for the rampage fight i score it like this.

1. Rampage 10-9
2. Forrest 10-9 ( maybe 10-8 )
3. Rampage 10-9
4. Rampage 10-9
5. Forrest 10-9

arguement on the second round. yes forrest had dominate position almost the whole round, but never was the fight in danger of being stopped. he didnt inflict a ton of damage either. rampage neutralized his mount pretty well.

Watched it a few times now I don't see how judges had it 48-46 for Griffen, 1,3,4 were all Jackson and 5 was close as hell.

forrest easily deserved the decision and he dominated the second round from the first second to the final sec and in result got the 10-8 which was well deserved also

On July 06 2008 17:44 TT1 wrote: forrest easily deserved the decision and he dominated the second round from the first second to the final sec and in result got the 10-8 which was well deserved also

then it was a draw? 1 3 & 4 cant even really be argued for forrest?

On July 06 2008 17:44 TT1 wrote: forrest easily deserved the decision and he dominated the second round from the first second to the final sec and in result got the 10-8 which was well deserved also

So we should just completely forget the other 4 rounds in a 5 round fight and just judge it by the 2nd?

i gave the third and fifth to forrest

On July 07 2008 02:09 KeanuReaver wrote: i gave the third and fifth to forrest

5th could have gone either way, but how do you give the 3rd to forrest?

meh fuck the immediate rematch bullshit


machida should get title shot, wandy vs rampage for winner of machida/forrest imo

Silva should get a title shot immiediatley if he beats James Irvin

given silva -600, irvin at +450 i'd say hes gonna get a title shot soon

On July 07 2008 16:51 NotSorry wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2008 02:09 KeanuReaver wrote: i gave the third and fifth to forrest 5th could have gone either way, but how do you give the 3rd to forrest?

I think the third round is the one where ramapage was on top most of the time right?

Most people would assume that rampage should take it because he controlled the round by being on top, but forrest was way more active from the bottom than rampage was from the top and forrest was very close to submitting him at one point. Also, rampage likely didn't get points for a takedown because forrest initiated it.

As for the fifth round, (as in every other round) forrest controlled the center of the ring the entire time and was always the aggressor.

So i believe it was scored 9-10, 10-8, 10-9, 9-10, 10-9 for forrest. Seems right to me.

i gave forrest the 3rd round too, close round but forrest controlled the ring

9-10, page not busy enough, concedes octogon control, late flurry by forrest seals it

we went here with a bunch from the lp house and some others (rikd tom mig blair khan pooruser and apestyles) was pretty awesome to see it live. we put big bets on tyson/koscheck, smaller bets on rampage/tibau. after tyson and kos won we were already even for the night and freerolling the last two fights. turns out the cashier dude put our action on forrest instead of rampage so suddenly we were all cheering for forrest. pooruser/tom/mig/me all made $1500 from the event. pretty sweet tickets are expensive as hell its nice to get your ticket money back and some more.

the almeida/cote fight sucked but I liked all the others actually. Silva vs Cote probably has -1500 odds if it ever happens. I actually think they will just let silva fight LHW only till there's someone at 185 who doesnt suck.

I had last minute money on forrest as a casual fan with a buddy while in vegas, but was surprised by the unanimous decision. Of course, we're no experts but even as we cheered for Griffin it wasn't clear to us that he won. And we also agreed that a tie should go to the champ. That said the leg kicks were doing a lot of damage despite not looking like much though - so maybe that was a difference maker in one of the closer rounds that we overlooked.

I have to say the sportsmanship of these guys was top notch (esp Rampage in a close loss) and their post fight interviews made be bigger fans of each. Dana White continues to do a great job putting out an entertaining product and running out fighters who are good representatives for the sport with a high consistency.

1 - Rampage 10-9
2 - Forrest 10-9
3 - Forrest 10-9
4 - Rampage 10-9
5 - Forrest 10-9

On July 09 2008 19:29 disCord wrote: 1 - Rampage 10-9 2 - Forrest 10-9 3 - Forrest 10-9 4 - Rampage 10-9 5 - Forrest 10-9

round 2 was minumum 10-8 Forrest, Rampage got completley owned the entire round

so weird about the leg, i mean those kicks looked weak as fuck and rampage just looked like Crocop were the one who kicked him, also wtf is up with Griffin's knees on the clinch for crying out loud he has no power at all, he fought a very smart fight tho.