extracting max, 5/10, 3 bi deep

villain is semi-frustrated with me, not apeshit or anything but I think he definitely feels that I have tried to run him over recently. He has had a winning session imo but is playing for too long and is starting to lose focus and his stacks are slowly deteriorating. I don't think he's good, he knows what he's doing but is generally on the weaker side and not one you have to look out for. How do I extract max given his current profile? ..

Submitted by : Stygg

GAME #1055147843: Texas Hold'em NL $5/$10 2008-07-04 00:38:06
Table Cholet (No DP)
Seat 1: PrinzPaco ($4,443.75 in chips)
Seat 3: TrlrPrkBy ($980.00 in chips) DEALER
Seat 5: Hero ($3,301.00 in chips)
Seat 6: aFrutAtEd ($395.00 in chips)
Seat 8: ZicoTumba ($2,733.25 in chips)
Seat 10: noxam ($636.00 in chips)
Hero : Post SB $5.00
aFrutAtEd: Post BB $10.00

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
ZicoTumba: Fold
noxam: Fold
PrinzPaco: Raise (NF) $35.00
TrlrPrkBy: Fold
Hero : Raise (NF) $135.00
aFrutAtEd: Fold
PrinzPaco: Call $100.00

Flop (Pot : $115.00)

   
Hero : Bet $200.00
PrinzPaco: Call $200.00

Turn (Pot : $515.00)

   
Hero : Bet $440.00
PrinzPaco: Raise (NF) $880.00
Hero :

this is a sick spot 3+ bi deep imo, waiting for more experienced answers

Villian is frustrated with you so you 3 bet preflop from the SB with J9s? Why?

And you luckbox a straight vs an opponent that you percieve to be frustrated with you and playing back at you some what light, what other option do you have then to reraise?

Oh I just noticed your Swedish, you have no choice but to shove all in.

On July 03 2008 20:35 casinocasino wrote: Oh I just noticed your Swedish, how did you not get allin preflop?

on a serious note, 3bet the turn, but don't shove imo. and yeah just get it in

On July 03 2008 21:15 [vital]Myth wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2008 20:35 casinocasino wrote: Oh I just noticed your Swedish, how did you not get allin preflop? on a serious note, 3bet the turn, but don't shove imo. and yeah just get it in

Cuz he is not Norwegian!!!


And the hand is pretty meh imo...

shove
glgl

Click it back ez

minraise would fuck his mind

Some more info on this guy. He's terrible and plays really bad in 3bet pots so I 3bet him a ton as well. He almost never plays back.

I like CIB and shove river if he calls.

Twisted thinks everyone is terrible

On July 04 2008 09:49 Stygg wrote: everyone is terrible

I click it back reallllllly fast or call and play a River

getting it in here probably isn't good even if he is frustrated. calling and c/r'ing blank rivs probably optimal in my mind.

On July 04 2008 12:30 nolan wrote: getting it in here probably isn't good even if he is frustrated. calling and c/r'ing blank rivs probably optimal in my mind.

flatting turn makes him 100% certain you're not bluffing

wihch is not good oop when you want him to monkey out

i shove

On July 04 2008 09:49 Stygg wrote: Twisted thinks everyone is terrible

lol no there's some good regs! 8D

But Hasuuu is so bad hahaha.

calling and c/cing or c/rai rivs is good imo, usually his range is 85% air and thats the only way u give him another option to bluff

I would call and check river to extract max value, he isn't gonna do anything to a raise from you this deep even if he is super frustated if hes got nothing, and only will if he has a boat, cuz he would 100% raise a 7 on the flop

maybe a call/little donk blocking like lead on river to get raised? that would be sexy and he might do raise that if he got air out of frustation, am i just being too tricky and naive

have fun playing a 7k pot drawing dead

I clicked it back to him and he called in less than 2 secs. river was 9h and I pushed my last $1.6k which in retrospect was a mistake. He folded. I dunno if he would have bet but since he has complete air so often he might be frustrated enough to bet. Plus I know he was starting to get irritated, I can't believe I didn't give him a chance to hang himself. I'm playing too many tables

and he never calls without a massively big hand so I really dunno what I was thinking pushing river..

correct way to play this imo is clicking it back on the turn in 2 secs and then when river comes 9h, taking a long time before checking

i think call check call is best. agree with mez reasoning

I dont like calling, it will extract minimum too often against this player to make it worthwhile

On July 05 2008 14:22 Daut wrote: i think call check call is best. agree with mez reasoning

call check call

ROFLMAO

re-min raise for the win you fucking idiots

fuck im tired, at least give a reasoning instead of shouting your thoughts and calling names like a little bitch

THE REASONING IS THAT MIN RAISE IS THE MOST TILT INDUCING FOR FUTURE HANDS IF NOT THE MOST EV IN THIS ONE YOU PERUVIAN BERRY STOMPER

lololol

k got your reasoning

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man I was also thinking this would just be a perfect moment for re-minraise
and ive never actually done that in my life, but this one just seemed absolutely perfect for that.

you're out of position right? I don't know that I can cold call this turn and check to him on the river without wanting to give up poker after this hand. repop it up a little maybe 1600 total and move in on the river.

On July 04 2008 08:50 Twisted wrote: Some more info on this guy. He's terrible and plays really bad in 3bet pots so I 3bet him a ton as well. He almost never plays back. I like CIB and shove river if he calls.

CIB?

Click It Back

On July 09 2008 03:59 Liquid`Drone wrote: man I was also thinking this would just be a perfect moment for re-minraise and ive never actually done that in my life, but this one just seemed absolutely perfect for that.

not if he has air a decent amount of the time

On July 09 2008 15:53 TimDawg wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2008 03:59 Liquid`Drone wrote: man I was also thinking this would just be a perfect moment for re-minraise and ive never actually done that in my life, but this one just seemed absolutely perfect for that. not if he has air a decent amount of the time

min3b induces a shove from tilted air a reasonable %

On July 09 2008 23:20 [vital]Myth wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2008 15:53 TimDawg wrote:   On July 09 2008 03:59 Liquid`Drone wrote: man I was also thinking this would just be a perfect moment for re-minraise and ive never actually done that in my life, but this one just seemed absolutely perfect for that. not if he has air a decent amount of the time min3b induces a shove from tilted air a reasonable %

yeah but i think calling and check/calling or raising does a higher % of the time

just seems from his perspective that'll he'll have less fold equity shoving over our CiB than it would if we just called and let him bet river