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Logiabs~   Colombia. Jul 03 2008 17:00. Posts 9133

Hi,

Submitted by : Logiabs~

PokerStars Game #18562019420: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2008/07/03 - 18:47:43 (ET)
Table 'Marcelle III' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: s0m0kami ($214.70 in chips)
Seat 2: AndrewBoccia ($304.70 in chips)
Seat 5: Logiabs ($244 in chips)
Seat 6: RLee982 ($218.10 in chips)
Logiabs : posts small blind $1
RLee982: posts big blind $2

Holecards
Dealt to Logiabs AhKs
s0m0kami: raises $6 to $8
ablasi leaves the table
AndrewBoccia: folds
Logiabs : raises $20 to $28
RLee982: raises $38 to $66
s0m0kami: raises $42 to $108
Logiabs : folds
Logiabs is sitting out
RLee982: folds
Uncalled bet ($42) returned to s0m0kami
RLee982 leaves the table
s0m0kami collected $160 from pot
s0m0kami: doesn't show hand

Summary
Total pot $160 | Rake $0
Seat 1: s0m0kami collected ($160)
Seat 2: AndrewBoccia (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Logiabs (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: RLee982 (big blind) folded before Flop




Ok so

5bettor is a good regular, i have played with him a ton in 100nl and 200nl now , but we stay out of each other for the most part, although we make some plays at eachother pf and stuff, he def thinks im a good reg, dont have much history him, table just broke up, and he raised utg as you see i 3bet from the SB and BB 4bets and utg goes again and 5bets

UTG raiser is 26/22/3 over 400hands
BB raiser is 22/13/3 over 30hands
and I am running at
26/22/3 also

I was sure BB was making a play coz he thought i was just trying to take the pot preflop w/o a good hand, he sees me as a TAG good regular player.



What's my play here?
PUSH OR FOLD?

I don't really know how likely is the initial raiser to put a 5bet bluff, i guess it is very very unlikely.


Thanks in advance

comment in anything please

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Fraser   Canada. Jul 03 2008 17:03. Posts 4605

I've got a good one for u: lol
congrats on getting to 200nl


Logiabs~   Colombia. Jul 03 2008 17:06. Posts 9133

heh thx i guess

uhm, andrewboccia just sit out after he folded , he runs at 10/7/3 tho


TimDawg    United States. Jul 03 2008 17:10. Posts 10197

fold looks good

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Fraser   Canada. Jul 03 2008 17:16. Posts 4605

simple hand.. utg raiser has AK or JJ+ at the widest, and you not invested enough to call vs that range. You can't put him on a bluff because he committed half his stack pf and now has better than 3:1 to call an allin, meaning he should call with almost any two.


EvilSky    Czech Republic. Jul 03 2008 17:21. Posts 8918

cold 4bet bluff is not likely considering you are very tight, muck it easy.


TimDawg    United States. Jul 03 2008 18:38. Posts 10197

i actually think it's a easy fold to the 4bet to begin with

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cariadon   Estonia. Jul 03 2008 18:49. Posts 4019

call and shove a flop to fold out AK you are flipping against anyway preflop ! this is how you make the most money here =)

serious answer: snapfold


Logiabs~   Colombia. Jul 03 2008 18:59. Posts 9133


  On July 03 2008 17:38 TimDawg wrote:
i actually think it's a easy fold to the 4bet to begin with




rlly? why?
i was somewhat positive he was makin' play here with TT-77



not to be result oriented but the guy insta folded when the utg did 5bet


phexac   United States. Jul 03 2008 19:54. Posts 2563

For most part, players at NL200 are too tight to be doing any kind of bluffing in this situation. This is an easy fold. At these stakes being happy to get your AK all-in PF every single time against thinking players who are not folding to your 3bets is a sure way to lose a lot of money because TT+/AK vs AK is about 3:2 odds. Not a good situation at all.

This case is extreme, since your have a 4bettor and a 5bettor. At least one of them has KK+, likely AA.

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LazyFisH   Australia. Jul 03 2008 21:31. Posts 686

Very easy fold. It's not close at all. When you are deciding these things 3bet preflop stats are more relevant than vpip/pfr, so try to list those next time.


  On July 03 2008 16:00 Logiabs~ wrote:
I was sure BB was making a play coz he thought i was just trying to take the pot preflop w/o a good hand.



This sort of thing can get you into a lot of trouble. Don't be paranoid that people are making plays at you all the time.


[vital]Myth    United States. Jul 03 2008 21:48. Posts 12159

i flat the sb here fwiw

but yeah ez fold now

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Logiabs~   Colombia. Jul 03 2008 22:46. Posts 9133

i do not have pt3 or hem so no 3bet stats


TalentedTom    Canada. Jul 04 2008 00:23. Posts 20070

not much to really think about here this would be a really f'ed up spot with KK

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The72o   Zimbabwe. Jul 04 2008 07:05. Posts 6112

snap fold

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Fraser   Canada. Jul 04 2008 11:12. Posts 4605


  On July 03 2008 20:48 [vital]Myth wrote:
i flat the sb here fwiw

but yeah ez fold now


really, u flat AK in the sb 4 handed?


Jamie217   Canada. Jul 04 2008 14:16. Posts 4351


  On July 03 2008 20:48 [vital]Myth wrote:
i flat the sb here fwiw

but yeah ez fold now



flatting AK 4 handed vs a 26/22 seems pretty meh... Maybe a nit opening utg in a full 6max game

but yeah def an ez fold now. Id hate to have KK here


Baalim   Mexico. Jul 05 2008 08:35. Posts 34312


  On July 03 2008 20:48 [vital]Myth wrote:
i flat the sb here fwiw




lol que?

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iamalex   United States. Jul 05 2008 20:32. Posts 1556

insta-fold


[vital]Myth    United States. Jul 05 2008 22:58. Posts 12159

wtf i'm flatting to trap

you guys don't trap with AX enough

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[vital]Myth    United States. Jul 05 2008 23:00. Posts 12159

also i'm trying to induce a squeeze from the BB followed by a call from the orig raiser

now that's a fkn excellent result when you flat AK in the SB

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