call with Fullhouse for value ????

Submitted by : JohnnyMoss

Full Tilt Poker Game #7058389018: Table Park Vista (6 max) - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:55:51 ET - 2008/07/02
Seat 1: BingyBong ($527.85)
Seat 2: rocktopus ($70)
Seat 3: d2d4 ($206)
Seat 4: jiggyji ($199)
Seat 5: ludko ($201)
Seat 6: FollowMeDonky ($80)
ludko posts the small blind of $1
FollowMeDonky posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #4

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to ludko
BingyBong raises to $7
rocktopus calls $7
d2d4 folds
jiggyji folds
ludko calls $6
FollowMeDonky folds

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $23.00)

   
ludko checks
BingyBong checks
rocktopus checks

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $23.00)

   
ludko bets $16
BingyBong calls $16
rocktopus calls $16

River (Pot : $71.00)

   
ludko has 15 seconds left to act
ludko checks
BingyBong has 15 seconds left to act
BingyBong checks
rocktopus bets $47, and is all in
ludko has 15 seconds left to act
ludko calls $47
BingyBong calls $47

Showdown
rocktopus shows a flush, Jack high
ludko shows a full house, Threes full of Fours
BingyBong mucks
ludko wins the pot ($209) with a full house, Threes full of Fours
rocktopus is sitting out

Summary
Total pot $212 | Rake $3
Board:  
Seat 1: BingyBong mucked - a flush, Nine high
Seat 2: rocktopus showed and lost with a flush, Jack high
Seat 3: d2d4 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: jiggyji (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: ludko (small blind) showed and won ($209) with a full house, Threes full of Fours
Seat 6: FollowMeDonky (big blind) folded before the Flop

should i re-reise this ot just call for more value ???

i think he will fold Ax and some flushes if i check reise this river

bet the river and get reraised by a flush or straight - then request time to celebrate, just make sure to shove before timebank runs out

yea have to bet the river

since you checked the river PLEASE CHECK RAISE why are you flatting a boat against an unknown on this board??

what the fuck

ya, what's already been said. wtf @ this hand

lol lets check call a full house..wat?

Why is everyone missing why he made this topic?

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He flatcalled hoping the other guy called as well. Can't know that he's that strong. I would just make it easy and bet out though.

i check this becouse hope bingy bet and rocktopus shove becouse i dont think if i bet bingy will re-reise me with flush or A or 6 here.....so if i make re-reise after rock push bingy will fold A will fold this small flush and maybe 6..................

what are they calling you with on the turn after the club dropped which makes you think you wouldnt be getting any action on this riv when the deuce of clubs hits?

if you check this which i wouldnt then check calling would be the right move for more value because a check raise after rock's all in would show too much strength and would probably draw a fold from bingy

if you lead out here with a small ~half a pot bet your most likely getting called behind you by bingy(seeing as you havnt showed any type of strength yet) and you don't show as much strength as if youd check raised this, so after rock(which you can expect) shoves you raise the pot again, you might be losing 5-10$ of value from a fold here but with money commited on the riv already bingy will probably be calling a reasonable raise here and you end up sucking out more value then your original play

Does he need to bet less than $23.50 for this to be possible?

chance of stacking the big stack for another $130 is much better than "HOPING" for dumb shortie to flat a chop, it's also VERY important to note shortie checked 2nd last to act on the river after you took the lead on the turn his hand is generally defined as very weak here

i guess im the only person that thinks this is ok/good t.t...at least without a specific read that bingybong is a sick sick passive calling fish(which it looks like he could be since he checked a river flush after you bet the turn and checked the river and a shortstack is after him.........)

betting out of course is good too

i dont mind this line but i am betting here more than checking

meh, line looks ok, riv went pretty bad considering and you still ended up getting 200 in on turn/riv from oop

still, dude rivered a flush and he checked. potpotpot v this guy plz.

On July 02 2008 23:18 PoorUser wrote: i guess im the only person that thinks this is ok/good t.t...at least without a specific read that bingybong is a sick sick passive calling fish(which it looks like he could be since he checked a river flush after you bet the turn and checked the river and a shortstack is after him.........) betting out of course is good too

Not the only one!

im sure that if u bet you get more money most of the times , because b inggy bong or w/e the overcaller, was going to call a $60 bet at least

no....if i bet binggy will never re-reise me with smaller flush,Ax or 6 so if i check and binggy bet short stack push i can make re-reise

it's not reise it's raise.

"no....if i bet binggy will never re-reise me with smaller flush,Ax or 6"


how the can you possibly know this

"this was in my first hands on this table no reads"

On July 02 2008 22:21 TalentedTom wrote: chance of stacking the big stack for another $130 is much better than "HOPING" for dumb shortie to flat a chop, it's also VERY important to note shortie checked 2nd last to act on the river after you took the lead on the turn his hand is generally defined as very weak here

This makes sense to me.