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any updates??

On May 22 2008 08:40 RaSZi wrote: Just to give an example, at our last meeting antonius said: 'I just want to teach the world everything i know about poker'.

Hes going to get right on with this right after hes played Gus Hansen at tennis for $100k a game, has played some Heads-Up on Martins Poker, and has bought an LP T-shirts off Nazgul.

the antonius is with full tilt now

so he wont be joining them or what?

i'm not sure what that would mean, but i don't think anyone affliated with a site does videos besides Team Cardrunners. Eric Lynch was part of pokerxfactor but now he's part of UB so he probably isn't part of PFX anymore. One exception is Mike Matusow, who does it for pokersavvy but I think he is the only one.

Isn't some CR pro's are in the ftp team and still making videos?

antonius is still making vids for us hopefully site will launch in like 2 weeks we are trageting before wsop main event for sure at the latest

On June 11 2008 11:02 Mig wrote: antonius is still making vids for us hopefully site will launch in like 2 weeks we are trageting before wsop main event for sure at the latest

On June 11 2008 10:59 ReDDcaFFe wrote: Isn't some CR pro's are in the ftp team and still making videos?

all of them?

looks like it should come out VERY soon
http://www.pokernews.com/strategy-videos/

lmao

i hope it wont actually look like that ;o

hm kimseong i cant view that video

On May 23 2008 11:14 Rhaegar wrote: Sites right now are worthless, theyre are teaching ppl to play in a retarted way and are actually making the games easier for me in a way. Obv if Patrik or Genius decide to give out all that they have, online poker is quite DEAD. Feel free to argue with me about the current sites. I say they're patetic, even the so called "pros" on that sites are mediocre monkeys that won their money with good table selection and running like gods. CTS fits the description too, though he is the king of monkeys. ;p

CTS a mediocre monkey? Well, this is coming from a guy that basically called Boxer a newb many years back and said the only reason he's good is because of practice and that he'd own all the koreans if he didn't have school and could practice as much as them...

Hey beast, there is a fine line between having a lot of self-confidence and being an arrogant jerk. That line is usually crossed when you constantly feel the need to put others down and belittle their accomplishments.

Boxer wins Starleague titles and revolutionizes an entire race and it's "only" cuz he practices 14 hours a day. CTS had made millions but it's "only" because he's a monkey with good table selection and runs like a god. C'mon, how about giving just a little bit of respect to their accomplishments.

Learn from the best. Beat the rest


great



im in love with mig! :D

You're the jerk for posting something that I never said. Ive never ever said Boxer is not great, im fairly certain I said non-koreans are only worse than koreans, because they are at a disadvantage. If I actually did say something insulting about Boxer, that would be hilarious, as I still watch his vids on youtube lol.

CTS is great by your standarts, hes not that great by my standarts. 95% of the big winners have made their money from great table selection, playing a ton and running good too. I don't think you need much skill to be able to do that.

You're the one insulting me, as If I don't have a right to voice my opinion. And twisting my words too. I obviously meant CTS is a good player in the post you quoted lol. And where did you come up with this about Boxer ?

As a matter of fact, I was one of the best sc players and I am one of the best poker players and even If I wasn't I'd still speak my mind.

Rhaegar,

My post was not meant to insult you and I'm sorry if it came across that way. I'm certain you're much better than me in both poker and BW and FWIW, I have great respect for your skills in both games.

Maybe I took your posts too literally, but my point was that you have consistently belittled the skills of others.

For some reason I can't find the thread on TL. I think it may be this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=979&currentpage=All , which is supposed to be 60+ pages long but for some reason only the first 4 show up.

It was many years ago but basically the argument then was that you stated that you would be easily be top 5 in the world in BW if you were able to practice the amount that the korean pros did but you couldn't because of school and that was the only reason why you weren't top 5. I fought you hard on that point saying how meaningless a claim like that was and how even if you practiced 14 hours a day just like boxer, that he'd still beat you. Of course there was no way to prove it but all your posts in that thread kept on belittling their achievements as purely a result of massive amounts of practice and not due to any extraordinary level of skill.

The parallels from that argument then and this CTS being a monkey one are quite clear. In both instances you gave them absolutely zero credit for their accomplishments. You called CTS "pathetic", the "king of monekys" and gave only two reasons for his success: good table selection and running like a god. In the boxer thread, which I hope we can pull up somehow, you gave boxer and other top korean BW pros of the day zero credit as well. You said the only reason for their success was the number of hours of practice and refused to acknowledge any natural talent that they may possess.

You say "I obviously meant CTS is a good player in the post you quoted lol". I've reread your post and I'd have to be a mind reader to make that determination from the words that you posted. Listen, you have every right to speak your mind and I totally agree that you are a top SC and poker player. I just don't understand why it is that whenever someone else gets credit or praise, you belittle them.

Ok, so I want to write something nice and friendly, but I just don't know what to say...

Truth is,in my eyes most of these players are really nothing special and I get annoyed when ppl idolize them. Success at both BW or Poker requires a lot of hard work and a lot of luck. And the general public generally sucks at evaluating who the best players are (which is perfeclty logical - only the other pros should have a good idea) and this has always annoyed me.

I remember I told some friend on msn a year ago that sbrugby would crash hard with his style of play and his unreal belief that he was the greatest (so he wouldnt quit the players better than him). He was up like 3.5mil at omaha and maybe 2 mil at NLH or something and he ended the year down. Now if I had written this in the forum, I'd get flamed really hard. And the most winning players are the best table selectors and thats the fact, theres generally nothing really special about them.


Edit: Btw, whatever arrogant things I have written, I generally still stand by them. I might have exaggerated a bit here and there for fun though.

but theres a point where u dont table select because u are the best o_o i dont see Patrick or Krants or Ivey dodging anybody.

Krantz really should be. And Patrik too if he continues to play as badly as hes been playing recently.

TenBagger, youve given me a wrong topic, but its fun to notice what this guy "construct" had written.

" Construct United States. December 14 2002 04:03. Posts 33 Profile
On December 13 2002 19:06 [pG]Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
practise is needed to develop the talent

noone on this forum could be better than Boxer not even if we played 20 hours a day


I disagree. I believe without a doubt that I can be as good as Lim Yo-whan. It's just that he's so many games of practice ahead of me. But if I were to suddenly get the privilidge of playing with gosu players non-stop, I believe I can get that good. I already have amazing keyboard skills. I can type almost 100 words per minute. My mouse skills are mediocre at best. What stops me from being good is that I don't have the experience it takes to beat someone as good as you Nazgul ^_^ ..."

" Construct United States. December 14 2002 04:17. Posts 33 Profile
Ha. No one will ever be as good as Boxer unless they believe they can be..."

I like this kind of thinking.