have you seen this?
Just a 50 min video on how banks own you?
I reckon this is must know for everyone on this planet. And should be educated at schools
hola
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Baalim   Mexico. May 08 2008 04:07. Posts 34312
You should watch Zeitgeist
Basically, the world economy is like one of those old TV contests where there is a cabin with money flying around and the guy which in this case are the central banks try to catch it all... in the end as time goes by the central banks will get all the money in the world.
Sadly its not doomed to collapse since when this system reaches a critical point the central banks can just condone hundreds of trillions of dollars to avoid this collapse and give the world some kind of infusion of real money, but they would still own the world and continue to do that.
Adolf Hitler is a saint compared to people like David Rockefeller who is responsable of 100 times more deaths and grief in this world and the sad part is that atleast Hitler did it for a conviction in his dreams, the rockefellers, rotschilds, morgans etc do it only to put the world in shackles.
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Breeze   Bulgaria. May 08 2008 05:25. Posts 802
Zeitgeist was ruined for me because of the idiotic way they dealt with the first two parts of the movie... they are so obviously retarded in almost every single "proof" and attempts at logic even though the general idea seems right esp for the first part, that I have a hard time deciding if I should trust the third one where I have no knowledge at all. It's a very interesting subject though, I might watch this
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Half of the Zeitgeist was stupid, mostly because i had thought about it before, and the other part, which i had given no thought, sounded reasonable. Seems to be a trend with these types of movies.
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i thought banks where there to help us manage our money ;/
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Baalim   Mexico. May 08 2008 06:14. Posts 34312
Just because you figured out religion was bullshit before watching zeitgeist doesnt make that part stupid, actually i found it a bit interesting since there were a few things i didnt know, not that i found it relevant but some religious people might.
i dont get why shouldnt you "trust" the third part i didnt see them make a false claim in the prior 2 parts.
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fenner   Australia. May 08 2008 06:24. Posts 2188
someone explain the vid in 3 sentences because i dont have the bandwidth to watch a 50min vid
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JohnnyBologna   United States. May 08 2008 06:30. Posts 1401
This is so genius. I bet you that what poker sites are doing with our money too... They assume not everyone will cash out at once so then they use up all the deposited money to open more freaking poker sites until they have about 20 different skins. I bet there is probably less than 20 percent in their reserve of all deposits made.
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anon   Lithuania. May 08 2008 06:40. Posts 5965
very intresting
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lachlan   Australia. May 08 2008 06:49. Posts 6991
On May 08 2008 05:30 JohnnyBologna wrote:
This is so genius. I bet you that what poker sites are doing with our money too... They assume not everyone will cash out at once so then they use up all the deposited money to open more freaking poker sites until they have about 20 different skins. I bet there is probably less than 20 percent in their reserve of all deposits made.
yea, i wouldnt be suprised if it was even less than that
investing the $$$ is their primary source of income
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spets1   Australia. May 08 2008 07:04. Posts 2179
On May 08 2008 05:14 Baal wrote:
i dont get why shouldnt you "trust" the third part i didnt see them make a false claim in the prior 2 parts.
Baal apparently first and 2nd parts were ripped apart by lots of people on the net etc. Google imo
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Moffa   United States. May 08 2008 07:05. Posts 617
hkbubbletea   Canada. May 08 2008 07:44. Posts 1575
On May 08 2008 04:46 uiCk wrote:
i thought banks where there to help us manage our money ;/
Banks are there to make sure you manage your money at their bank so they can use your hard earned money to make EZ money by lending it away and collecting interest.
I would recommend watching The Money Masters. It runs along the same lines as Zeitgiest but more detailed and comprehensive.
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ggplz   Sweden. May 08 2008 08:10. Posts 16784
wow
pretty eye opening =]
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Critterer   United Kingdom. May 08 2008 08:20. Posts 5337
On May 08 2008 03:07 Baal wrote:
You should watch Zeitgeist
Basically, the world economy is like one of those old TV contests where there is a cabin with money flying around and the guy which in this case are the central banks try to catch it all... in the end as time goes by the central banks will get all the money in the world.
Sadly its not doomed to collapse since when this system reaches a critical point the central banks can just condone hundreds of trillions of dollars to avoid this collapse and give the world some kind of infusion of real money, but they would still own the world and continue to do that.
Adolf Hitler is a saint compared to people like David Rockefeller who is responsable of 100 times more deaths and grief in this world and the sad part is that atleast Hitler did it for a conviction in his dreams, the rockefellers, rotschilds, morgans etc do it only to put the world in shackles.
as an economist reading this makes me cringe so hard rofl
Critterer   United Kingdom. May 08 2008 08:25. Posts 5337
banks are required to maintain a reserve ratio (in most countries though not the UK oddly enough), which is pretty much what is a "reasonable" amount to satisfy withdrawlls.
reserve ratio also limits the money multiplier effect and therefore controls money supply
dunno what everyone thought the bank did with their money, and dunno really how people can possibly complain about it either.
ggplz   Sweden. May 08 2008 08:35. Posts 16784
they cant do shit about it
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lebowski   Greece. May 08 2008 11:43. Posts 9205
On May 08 2008 03:07 Baal wrote:
You should watch Zeitgeist
Basically, the world economy is like one of those old TV contests where there is a cabin with money flying around and the guy which in this case are the central banks try to catch it all... in the end as time goes by the central banks will get all the money in the world.
Sadly its not doomed to collapse since when this system reaches a critical point the central banks can just condone hundreds of trillions of dollars to avoid this collapse and give the world some kind of infusion of real money, but they would still own the world and continue to do that.
Adolf Hitler is a saint compared to people like David Rockefeller who is responsable of 100 times more deaths and grief in this world and the sad part is that atleast Hitler did it for a conviction in his dreams, the rockefellers, rotschilds, morgans etc do it only to put the world in shackles.
I think the matter that troubled me the most with zeitgeist is the part about 9/11
such a huge conspiracy theory should be supported with a more thorough research and with a more scientific approach to be that easily taken for granted.
I mean I started questioning all the other stuff after I saw this part.
Everyone can find facts to support any theory,but these are serious accusations that should be looked into more thoroughly
It lost credibility imo and I'm no Bush fan either
new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...
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Sheitan   Canada. May 08 2008 12:11. Posts 4217
On May 08 2008 03:07 Baal wrote:
You should watch Zeitgeist
Basically, the world economy is like one of those old TV contests where there is a cabin with money flying around and the guy which in this case are the central banks try to catch it all... in the end as time goes by the central banks will get all the money in the world.
Sadly its not doomed to collapse since when this system reaches a critical point the central banks can just condone hundreds of trillions of dollars to avoid this collapse and give the world some kind of infusion of real money, but they would still own the world and continue to do that.
Adolf Hitler is a saint compared to people like David Rockefeller who is responsable of 100 times more deaths and grief in this world and the sad part is that atleast Hitler did it for a conviction in his dreams, the rockefellers, rotschilds, morgans etc do it only to put the world in shackles.
QFTMFT
We live in a fucked up world imo, and the worst in this is i don't believe in god whatsoever, it means they WILL get away with it.
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SneakrFreakr   United Kingdom. May 08 2008 12:11. Posts 2534
On May 08 2008 03:07 Baal wrote:
Adolf Hitler is a saint compared to people like David Rockefeller who is responsable of 100 times more deaths and grief in this world and the sad part is that atleast Hitler did it for a conviction in his dreams, the rockefellers, rotschilds, morgans etc do it only to put the world in shackles.
wat?
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RiKD   United States. May 08 2008 14:52. Posts 9917
On May 08 2008 03:07 Baal wrote:
Adolf Hitler is a saint compared to people like David Rockefeller who is responsable of 100 times more deaths and grief in this world and the sad part is that atleast Hitler did it for a conviction in his dreams, the rockefellers, rotschilds, morgans etc do it only to put the world in shackles.
wat?
yeah baal always brings the crazy ass rhetoric to the table. is there anyone that can give a cliff's notes on why all of this isn't more than just some crazy conspiracy theory? or someone come in and trash this conspiracy theory? i don't really feel like watching some random youtube video for 50 min.
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Highcard   Canada. May 08 2008 15:58. Posts 5428
On May 08 2008 04:46 uiCk wrote:
i thought banks where there to help us manage our money ;/
Banks are there to make sure you manage your money at their bank so they can use your hard earned money to make EZ money by lending it away and collecting interest.
I would recommend watching The Money Masters. It runs along the same lines as Zeitgiest but more detailed and comprehensive.
Yeah the money masters is good but long as fuck
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lebowski   Greece. May 08 2008 16:13. Posts 9205
On May 08 2008 03:07 Baal wrote:
Adolf Hitler is a saint compared to people like David Rockefeller who is responsable of 100 times more deaths and grief in this world and the sad part is that atleast Hitler did it for a conviction in his dreams, the rockefellers, rotschilds, morgans etc do it only to put the world in shackles.
wat?
yeah baal always brings the crazy ass rhetoric to the table. is there anyone that can give a cliff's notes on why all of this isn't more than just some crazy conspiracy theory? or someone come in and trash this conspiracy theory? i don't really feel like watching some random youtube video for 50 min.
the OP's vid is good watch it
about zeitgeist: definately interesting but dunno how credible
new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...
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YoMeR   United States. May 08 2008 17:54. Posts 12438
baal: Adolf Hitler will never be a saint compared to any kind of person. What the fuck are you smoking?
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Baalim   Mexico. May 08 2008 18:59. Posts 34312
On May 08 2008 16:54 YoMeR wrote:
baal: Adolf Hitler will never be a saint compared to any kind of person. What the fuck are you smoking?
Then clearly you are not remotely aware of the damage this people have caused to the world, they are responsable for the polarization of money in the world, they have been financing all sides of all the major wars since the past century escalating conflicts into endless massacres, bringing poverty and hunger systematically for the only purpose of accelerating the already ongoing process of accumulating all the property in the world.
That is the true face of evil, not the one who stains its hands in blood in the war, but the bastard who collects the spoils after the war is over, a war he created himself.
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Baalim   Mexico. May 08 2008 19:00. Posts 34312
On May 08 2008 03:07 Baal wrote:
You should watch Zeitgeist
Basically, the world economy is like one of those old TV contests where there is a cabin with money flying around and the guy which in this case are the central banks try to catch it all... in the end as time goes by the central banks will get all the money in the world.
Sadly its not doomed to collapse since when this system reaches a critical point the central banks can just condone hundreds of trillions of dollars to avoid this collapse and give the world some kind of infusion of real money, but they would still own the world and continue to do that.
Adolf Hitler is a saint compared to people like David Rockefeller who is responsable of 100 times more deaths and grief in this world and the sad part is that atleast Hitler did it for a conviction in his dreams, the rockefellers, rotschilds, morgans etc do it only to put the world in shackles.
I think the matter that troubled me the most with zeitgeist is the part about 9/11
such a huge conspiracy theory should be supported with a more thorough research and with a more scientific approach to be that easily taken for granted.
I mean I started questioning all the other stuff after I saw this part.
Everyone can find facts to support any theory,but these are serious accusations that should be looked into more thoroughly
It lost credibility imo and I'm no Bush fan either
Well the point of Zeitgeist is to alert people of whats going on, they simply cannot go that deep because they have limited time and resources, however the people they "wake up" are able to research on their own, and the purpouse of zeitgeist were fulfullled if you do.
Not long ago somebody posted a video about 9/11... some guy in talking over an hour and a half in an university about how it was a controlled demolition.
TBH i were a skeptic as i usually trend to be even in a cocky fashion until i dug up some stuff, like in that video im talking about they bring up many unrefutable facts like molten metal which required 3x the amount of heat the burning of jet fuel to produce, only things like thermite can create that amount of heat, also most beams were cut in diagonal as they do in controlled demolitions, an even stronger fact is that the towers fell vertically at free fall speed they accelerated as they fell, they never found any kind of resistance, that never happens in a natural building collapse especially in the twin towers since its main collumns were in the middle making a vertical free fall nearly impossible especially in a lateral fire, the towers would have never fallen vertically and obviously never accelerating, an even stronger argument is that no building with steel structure has collapsed because of a fire, many buildings have been on fire for several several hours and they never collapsed.
Besides that theoretical evidence something left me with no doubt about it... in that video im talking about they show a lateral close up of the building, ive never seen that video before but its shocking because you can clearly see as the building is falling 3 clear lateral explosions... not like fire balls.. no, clear flash bang like detonations on the flors below as the building is collapsing after that i have no doubt in my mind those were obvious demolition charges.
Its not really shocking anyway i mean... killing a couple thousand in the twin towers is a much smaller sacrifice than what they did to enter the 1st world war they killed far mroe people (% population wise), its a common practice sadly
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whaackum   United States. May 08 2008 19:17. Posts 1586
On May 08 2008 03:07 Baal wrote:
Adolf Hitler is a saint compared to people like David Rockefeller who is responsable of 100 times more deaths and grief in this world and the sad part is that atleast Hitler did it for a conviction in his dreams, the rockefellers, rotschilds, morgans etc do it only to put the world in shackles.
I don't have stats or interesting facts but that doesn't matter. this is just a fucked up statement
The W.
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JonnyCosMo   United States. May 08 2008 19:32. Posts 7292
On May 08 2008 03:07 Baal wrote:
You should watch Zeitgeist
Basically, the world economy is like one of those old TV contests where there is a cabin with money flying around and the guy which in this case are the central banks try to catch it all... in the end as time goes by the central banks will get all the money in the world.
Sadly its not doomed to collapse since when this system reaches a critical point the central banks can just condone hundreds of trillions of dollars to avoid this collapse and give the world some kind of infusion of real money, but they would still own the world and continue to do that.
Adolf Hitler is a saint compared to people like David Rockefeller who is responsable of 100 times more deaths and grief in this world and the sad part is that atleast Hitler did it for a conviction in his dreams, the rockefellers, rotschilds, morgans etc do it only to put the world in shackles.
I knew u were a beaner... didnt know you were a Nazi. Learn new things everyday
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spets1   Australia. May 08 2008 19:37. Posts 2179
I get baals point and i reckon Hitler was just a pawn in their hands
hola
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masterfrywad   United States. May 08 2008 20:18. Posts 329
but ya, the bankers finance all the wars and subsequently profit from them.
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Breeze   Bulgaria. May 09 2008 03:21. Posts 802
I kind of agree with Baal that "killing a couple thousand in the twin towers is a much smaller sacrifice than what they did to enter the 1st world war they killed far mroe people (% population wise), its a common practice sadly" but after reading/watching a lot of material I definitely don't agree with silly theories like planting explosives in all those buildings or using remote control planes with attached laser weapons lol... 95% of people who make those conspiracy movies are no talent sick attention whores and also some of them try to win easy money selling the same recycled ideas often with grossly edited videos and information, quoting unknown clueless morons.
About 9/11 I personally believe it is possible that important members of the US government knew what was going to happen but it was perfect for them so they just made sure to allow it to happen. Maybe even helped in some subtle way by making it less probable for air defense to shoot those planes down and/or leaking important info that was valuable to the arabs, but I think planting explosives and other such shit is not realistic...
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EvilSky   Czech Republic. May 09 2008 03:58. Posts 8918
On May 09 2008 02:21 Breeze wrote:
About 9/11 I personally believe it is possible that important members of the US government knew what was going to happen but it was perfect for them so they just made sure to allow it to happen. Maybe even helped in some subtle way by making it less probable for air defense to shoot those planes down and/or leaking important info that was valuable to the arabs, but I think planting explosives and other such shit is not realistic...
Whats the difference exactly?
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SneakrFreakr   United Kingdom. May 09 2008 04:38. Posts 2534
yes baal, conspiracy is everywhere! and hitler was a cool guy.
not
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DaEm0niCuS   United States. May 09 2008 05:54. Posts 3292
Hope you´re not talking about Loose Change Baal.
Everybody always forgets that there was a huge plane hitting the damn towers, not only a fire. And dont even bother to mention that bomber incident before, that shit is way smaller. --------------------------- :<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Ugh, it´s really hard to have a meaningfull discussion about shit like this, there´s so much misinformation flying about. Someone makes a claim, but you have no idea if it´s true or not. Maybe he´s lying. Maybe he doesn´t know what the hell he is talking about. Maybe the person who told him was lying. Maybe the person who told him doesn´t know what the hell he is talking about. You really can´t trust what another person is saying here, you´d have to check all of this yourself. That´s too much. I don´t want to start studying structural engineering to figure it out.
The Lunar landing and Titanic are fun subjects too :l
Also, ;D
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Breeze   Bulgaria. May 09 2008 06:14. Posts 802
About 9/11 I personally believe it is possible that important members of the US government knew what was going to happen but it was perfect for them so they just made sure to allow it to happen. Maybe even helped in some subtle way by making it less probable for air defense to shoot those planes down and/or leaking important info that was valuable to the arabs, but I think planting explosives and other such shit is not realistic...
Whats the difference exactly?
It is a technical difference only!
But the controlled demolition claims or "lack of real planes" and other silly details tilt me quite a bit and make those conspiracy theorists look like clowns. Probably they know very well that they are wrong about those details but use them because they think the public is more interested in such stuff, either way I hate it
Look at that idiot and his edited videos
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lebowski   Greece. May 09 2008 06:17. Posts 9205
On May 08 2008 03:07 Baal wrote:
You should watch Zeitgeist
Basically, the world economy is like one of those old TV contests where there is a cabin with money flying around and the guy which in this case are the central banks try to catch it all... in the end as time goes by the central banks will get all the money in the world.
Sadly its not doomed to collapse since when this system reaches a critical point the central banks can just condone hundreds of trillions of dollars to avoid this collapse and give the world some kind of infusion of real money, but they would still own the world and continue to do that.
Adolf Hitler is a saint compared to people like David Rockefeller who is responsable of 100 times more deaths and grief in this world and the sad part is that atleast Hitler did it for a conviction in his dreams, the rockefellers, rotschilds, morgans etc do it only to put the world in shackles.
I knew u were a beaner... didnt know you were a Nazi. Learn new things everyday
obv an easily made assumption
I mean he said HItler< Rockfeller so are we gonna split hair here? he's a freakin nazi
Damn mexicans,nothing changes
edit: btw breeze hilarious quote
new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...
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YoMeR   United States. May 09 2008 13:07. Posts 12438
so baal, condoning a systematic genocide of an entire group and starting it isn't the face of pure evil? even if it isn't it's definitely a side of it fuck.
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lebowski   Greece. May 09 2008 13:23. Posts 9205
its not like genocide is the rarest thing in human history. there have just been more movies about the nazis than anything else.
Surely talking with terms of good or evil is a simplification when we examine the countless wars and deaths that have shaped history through the struggle for power. Ideologies serve as mere vehicles to achieve goals; purity of the race, war on terror etc
new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...
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Baalim   Mexico. May 09 2008 15:03. Posts 34312
On May 09 2008 12:23 lebowski wrote:
its not like genocide is the rarest thing in human history. there have just been more movies about the nazis than anything else.
Surely talking with terms of good or evil is a simplification when we examine the countless wars and deaths that have shaped history through the struggle for power. Ideologies serve as mere vehicles to achieve goals; purity of the race, war on terror etc
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Baalim   Mexico. May 09 2008 15:06. Posts 34312
On May 09 2008 03:38 SneakrFreakr wrote:
yes baal, conspiracy is everywhere! and hitler was a cool guy.
not
when did i say any of those things u retard?
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Baalim   Mexico. May 09 2008 15:10. Posts 34312
On May 09 2008 02:21 Breeze wrote:
I kind of agree with Baal that "killing a couple thousand in the twin towers is a much smaller sacrifice than what they did to enter the 1st world war they killed far mroe people (% population wise), its a common practice sadly" but after reading/watching a lot of material I definitely don't agree with silly theories like planting explosives in all those buildings or using remote control planes with attached laser weapons lol... 95% of people who make those conspiracy movies are no talent sick attention whores and also some of them try to win easy money selling the same recycled ideas often with grossly edited videos and information, quoting unknown clueless morons.
About 9/11 I personally believe it is possible that important members of the US government knew what was going to happen but it was perfect for them so they just made sure to allow it to happen. Maybe even helped in some subtle way by making it less probable for air defense to shoot those planes down and/or leaking important info that was valuable to the arabs, but I think planting explosives and other such shit is not realistic...
what? fake planes? why would they do that since its like much easier to use real ones with real muslim fanatics piloting them?.
why its not realistic to use explosives? what part of what i wrote you disagree with and how, the molten metal, the buildlings falling vetically at free fall acceleration or the video where you can see the lateral demolition explosions
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SneakrFreakr   United Kingdom. May 09 2008 17:13. Posts 2534
On May 09 2008 03:38 SneakrFreakr wrote:
yes baal, conspiracy is everywhere! and hitler was a cool guy.
not
when did i say any of those things u retard?
well u do find conspiracies everywhere - 9/11, banks aiming to own the whole globe, rockefeller, AIDS etc. basically u know everything better in every field and everyone else is just wrong. i mean that's what u think
as for hitler u better go and see some concentration camps before u make such statements
or maybe there were no concentration camps? maybe it's a conspiracy and jews made it up so they can kill all germans and settle on their land in "revange"? cmon u must know better than the public
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Baalim   Mexico. May 09 2008 17:56. Posts 34312
banks diong what they are doing is not a fucking conspiracy theory its open and known if u want to research about them the real to virtual money ratio 9:1 is real and it doesnt take a genius to figure out how it works out, its quite simple and obviousunless it doesnt sound weird to you that USA has 45 trillion dollar debt, it just doesnt make much sense does it?
Its an extremely common practice to kill your own people to start a war, usa has done it in almost every single major war, so has germany etc also please debate the evidence not just randomly mock it with no bases whatsoever.... do you really think a jumbo jet crashed in the pentagon?
and no i dont believe the concentration camps are a conspiracy and ive never said or implied that dont put words on my mouth again.
What do you suggest hit pentagon then? If it wasn´t a jet, where is that jet and the passengers now?
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Baalim   Mexico. May 09 2008 18:25. Posts 34312
I think one of the footages was leaked and it looked something small and really really fast, probably a Missile or like a combat jet...
I dunno where they are, probably crashed somewhere else and this was plan B? i dunno only know what i see in the evidence and those 2 pics and the video are quite obvious that it wasnt a jumbo jet.
But now that we are throwng questions at each other... why do you think the pentagon collected all videos and has never released them to the public despise knowing so many ppl tought it was a hoax?
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. May 09 2008 19:01. Posts 9634
Zeitgeist is a manipulative movie.Many of the things are true but some things for example in relegion are ignored and unexplained.I do totally agree with all other parts of the movie tho coz they r not the 1st ones to prove em.
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Breeze   Bulgaria. May 09 2008 19:10. Posts 802
This is a very long discussion I am NOT looking forward to . If you are really interested as much as I was, do some more extended research, not just one sided pro-conspiracy... www.911myths.com is a good start to get another perspective
I give up, wasted enough time and energy on this subject a few weeks ago
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Baalim   Mexico. May 09 2008 19:22. Posts 34312
anyway meaningless shit about twin towers, this discussion is about bankers or do you think its false too?
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Svenman87   United States. May 09 2008 20:00. Posts 4636
jesus i deleted like a page rant on what is wrong with this video.
anyways
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PokerDoc88   Australia. May 10 2008 04:00. Posts 3527
I've been looking on youtube for videos of different perspectives of both towers collapsing, and if you look carefully, you can see squibs of smoke very possibly due to demolition charges put in place.
I give less credit to videos which are there obviously with a conspiracy tone (because they could have easily been edited), but if you look around long enough, you'll realise you see the same videos posted by multiple people with different agendas, and you can see the squibs in all of these videos.
For instance, in this video at 3:35, 5:35 and 5:41, if you look carefully you can see weird puffs of smoke occurring 10 or more floors below the leading edge of the collapsing structure.
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SneakrFreakr   United Kingdom. May 10 2008 04:27. Posts 2534
Baal - I don't deny the bank thingy at all. In fact, I believe that this ratio might be even higher than 9:1. But somewhere in this thread u said that the banks are just trying to take over the whole world and they will eventually own it etc etc
As for the Pentagon photo you posted - it kinda makes me laugh cause I saw one conspiracy theory video about the Pentagon being hit on 9/11 and it showed a completely different building with a completely different damage. So wtf? Plus the "government exhibit" thingy on the photo just makes me laugh.
And plz give some examples of let's say Germany - when did they kill their own people in order to start a war? I'm no good at history but I'm pretty sure it never happened.
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ejs18   United States. May 10 2008 04:58. Posts 47
On May 10 2008 03:27 SneakrFreakr wrote:
Baal - I don't deny the bank thingy at all. In fact, I believe that this ratio might be even higher than 9:1. But somewhere in this thread u said that the banks are just trying to take over the whole world and they will eventually own it etc etc
As for the Pentagon photo you posted - it kinda makes me laugh cause I saw one conspiracy theory video about the Pentagon being hit on 9/11 and it showed a completely different building with a completely different damage. So wtf? Plus the "government exhibit" thingy on the photo just makes me laugh.
And plz give some examples of let's say Germany - when did they kill their own people in order to start a war? I'm no good at history but I'm pretty sure it never happened.
Hes about right on the ratio - anywhere from 6:1 to 12:1 on average.
Germans killed jews, gays, gypsies, etc... that lived in germany. You should educate yourself more sir.
No needs to worry about monies and being leveraged - leverage the bank by doing real estate silly peoples
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ejs18   United States. May 10 2008 05:00. Posts 47
look up kristallnacht or broken glass night i think it translates to... it is one spark of the germans
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SneakrFreakr   United Kingdom. May 10 2008 05:48. Posts 2534
On May 10 2008 03:27 SneakrFreakr wrote:
Baal - I don't deny the bank thingy at all. In fact, I believe that this ratio might be even higher than 9:1. But somewhere in this thread u said that the banks are just trying to take over the whole world and they will eventually own it etc etc
As for the Pentagon photo you posted - it kinda makes me laugh cause I saw one conspiracy theory video about the Pentagon being hit on 9/11 and it showed a completely different building with a completely different damage. So wtf? Plus the "government exhibit" thingy on the photo just makes me laugh.
And plz give some examples of let's say Germany - when did they kill their own people in order to start a war? I'm no good at history but I'm pretty sure it never happened.
Germans killed jews, gays, gypsies, etc... that lived in germany. You should educate yourself more sir.
o rly? i'm talking about sth different. the fact that they were killing those people within their own territory wasn't a reason why the world war 2 started. you should learn how to read properly sir
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lucifer   Sweden. May 10 2008 07:08. Posts 5955
On May 09 2008 17:19 True wrote:
What do you suggest hit pentagon then? If it wasn´t a jet, where is that jet and the passengers now?
bermuda triangle?
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SneakrFreakr   United Kingdom. May 10 2008 07:33. Posts 2534
On May 09 2008 17:19 True wrote:
What do you suggest hit pentagon then? If it wasn´t a jet, where is that jet and the passengers now?
The Island obv. how do u think they were filming Lost?
About 9/11 I personally believe it is possible that important members of the US government knew what was going to happen but it was perfect for them so they just made sure to allow it to happen. Maybe even helped in some subtle way by making it less probable for air defense to shoot those planes down and/or leaking important info that was valuable to the arabs, but I think planting explosives and other such shit is not realistic...
Whats the difference exactly?
It is a technical difference only!
But the controlled demolition claims or "lack of real planes" and other silly details tilt me quite a bit and make those conspiracy theorists look like clowns. Probably they know very well that they are wrong about those details but use them because they think the public is more interested in such stuff, either way I hate it
Look at that idiot and his edited videos
Look closely at the first plane. Looks like they were not edited... It's harder to see the flash in the 2nd plane, but it's visible if you really focus.
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Oly   United Kingdom. May 10 2008 08:05. Posts 3585
The problem with these extreme conspiracy theories is that the assumption that the number of people involved have all been kept quiet (such as the 9/11 stuff which would have taken 1000s of conspirators to explain the theories) is far less likely than assuming that some things are as yet unexplained within the orthodox theories.
JFK was obviously a conspiracy though - Oliver Stone NEVER lies.
Researchers used brain scans to show that when straight men looked at pictures of women in bikinis, areas of the brain that normally light up in anticipation of using tools, like spanners and screwdrivers, were activated.
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SemPeR   Canada. May 10 2008 10:42. Posts 2288
On May 08 2008 11:11 Sheitan wrote:
We live in a fucked up world imo,
pretty much
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Bejamin1   Canada. May 10 2008 11:22. Posts 7042
You know there is a really good episode of South Park that explains both sides of all those 9/11 discussions and what not. The one where they have Bush laughing at how the public thinks a government run by that idiot could actually be clever enough to come up with such an awesome conspiracy. I dunno, pretty funny .
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Repusz   Hungary. May 10 2008 11:34. Posts 1033
I hope this is a huge levelling conspiracy or else rotflmaobbqwtflol.
Teh evil capitalism and it's infernal monetary systems....
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Repusz   Hungary. May 10 2008 11:37. Posts 1033
On May 08 2008 03:07 Baal wrote:
You should watch Zeitgeist
Basically, the world economy is like one of those old TV contests where there is a cabin with money flying around and the guy which in this case are the central banks try to catch it all... in the end as time goes by the central banks will get all the money in the world.
Sadly its not doomed to collapse since when this system reaches a critical point the central banks can just condone hundreds of trillions of dollars to avoid this collapse and give the world some kind of infusion of real money, but they would still own the world and continue to do that.
Adolf Hitler is a saint compared to people like David Rockefeller who is responsable of 100 times more deaths and grief in this world and the sad part is that atleast Hitler did it for a conviction in his dreams, the rockefellers, rotschilds, morgans etc do it only to put the world in shackles.
as an economist reading this makes me cringe so hard rofl
I feel your pain....
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SneakrFreakr   United Kingdom. May 10 2008 11:40. Posts 2534
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misunderstood lolz
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SemPeR   Canada. May 10 2008 11:48. Posts 2288