On May 09 2008 02:21 Breeze wrote:
I kind of agree with Baal that "killing a couple thousand in the twin towers is a much smaller sacrifice than what they did to enter the 1st world war they killed far mroe people (% population wise), its a common practice sadly" but after reading/watching a lot of material I definitely don't agree with silly theories like planting explosives in all those buildings or using remote control planes with attached laser weapons lol... 95% of people who make those conspiracy movies are no talent sick attention whores and also some of them try to win easy money selling the same recycled ideas often with grossly edited videos and information, quoting unknown clueless morons.
About 9/11 I personally believe it is possible that important members of the US government knew what was going to happen but it was perfect for them so they just made sure to allow it to happen. Maybe even helped in some subtle way by making it less probable for air defense to shoot those planes down and/or leaking important info that was valuable to the arabs, but I think planting explosives and other such shit is not realistic...
what? fake planes? why would they do that since its like much easier to use real ones with real muslim fanatics piloting them?.
why its not realistic to use explosives? what part of what i wrote you disagree with and how, the molten metal, the buildlings falling vetically at free fall acceleration or the video where you can see the lateral demolition explosions
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SneakrFreakr United Kingdom. May 09 2008 17:13. Posts 2534
On May 09 2008 03:38 SneakrFreakr wrote:
yes baal, conspiracy is everywhere! and hitler was a cool guy.
not
when did i say any of those things u retard?
well u do find conspiracies everywhere - 9/11, banks aiming to own the whole globe, rockefeller, AIDS etc. basically u know everything better in every field and everyone else is just wrong. i mean that's what u think
as for hitler u better go and see some concentration camps before u make such statements
or maybe there were no concentration camps? maybe it's a conspiracy and jews made it up so they can kill all germans and settle on their land in "revange"? cmon u must know better than the public
banks diong what they are doing is not a fucking conspiracy theory its open and known if u want to research about them the real to virtual money ratio 9:1 is real and it doesnt take a genius to figure out how it works out, its quite simple and obviousunless it doesnt sound weird to you that USA has 45 trillion dollar debt, it just doesnt make much sense does it?
Its an extremely common practice to kill your own people to start a war, usa has done it in almost every single major war, so has germany etc also please debate the evidence not just randomly mock it with no bases whatsoever.... do you really think a jumbo jet crashed in the pentagon?
and no i dont believe the concentration camps are a conspiracy and ive never said or implied that dont put words on my mouth again.
I think one of the footages was leaked and it looked something small and really really fast, probably a Missile or like a combat jet...
I dunno where they are, probably crashed somewhere else and this was plan B? i dunno only know what i see in the evidence and those 2 pics and the video are quite obvious that it wasnt a jumbo jet.
But now that we are throwng questions at each other... why do you think the pentagon collected all videos and has never released them to the public despise knowing so many ppl tought it was a hoax?
Zeitgeist is a manipulative movie.Many of the things are true but some things for example in relegion are ignored and unexplained.I do totally agree with all other parts of the movie tho coz they r not the 1st ones to prove em.
This is a very long discussion I am NOT looking forward to . If you are really interested as much as I was, do some more extended research, not just one sided pro-conspiracy... www.911myths.com is a good start to get another perspective
I give up, wasted enough time and energy on this subject a few weeks ago
My work is of high quality, cheap and fast. Pick only two of those though.
anyway meaningless shit about twin towers, this discussion is about bankers or do you think its false too?
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Svenman87 United States. May 09 2008 20:00. Posts 4636
jesus i deleted like a page rant on what is wrong with this video.
anyways
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PokerDoc88 Australia. May 10 2008 04:00. Posts 3527
I've been looking on youtube for videos of different perspectives of both towers collapsing, and if you look carefully, you can see squibs of smoke very possibly due to demolition charges put in place.
I give less credit to videos which are there obviously with a conspiracy tone (because they could have easily been edited), but if you look around long enough, you'll realise you see the same videos posted by multiple people with different agendas, and you can see the squibs in all of these videos.
For instance, in this video at 3:35, 5:35 and 5:41, if you look carefully you can see weird puffs of smoke occurring 10 or more floors below the leading edge of the collapsing structure.
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SneakrFreakr United Kingdom. May 10 2008 04:27. Posts 2534
Baal - I don't deny the bank thingy at all. In fact, I believe that this ratio might be even higher than 9:1. But somewhere in this thread u said that the banks are just trying to take over the whole world and they will eventually own it etc etc
As for the Pentagon photo you posted - it kinda makes me laugh cause I saw one conspiracy theory video about the Pentagon being hit on 9/11 and it showed a completely different building with a completely different damage. So wtf? Plus the "government exhibit" thingy on the photo just makes me laugh.
And plz give some examples of let's say Germany - when did they kill their own people in order to start a war? I'm no good at history but I'm pretty sure it never happened.
On May 10 2008 03:27 SneakrFreakr wrote:
Baal - I don't deny the bank thingy at all. In fact, I believe that this ratio might be even higher than 9:1. But somewhere in this thread u said that the banks are just trying to take over the whole world and they will eventually own it etc etc
As for the Pentagon photo you posted - it kinda makes me laugh cause I saw one conspiracy theory video about the Pentagon being hit on 9/11 and it showed a completely different building with a completely different damage. So wtf? Plus the "government exhibit" thingy on the photo just makes me laugh.
And plz give some examples of let's say Germany - when did they kill their own people in order to start a war? I'm no good at history but I'm pretty sure it never happened.
Hes about right on the ratio - anywhere from 6:1 to 12:1 on average.
Germans killed jews, gays, gypsies, etc... that lived in germany. You should educate yourself more sir.
No needs to worry about monies and being leveraged - leverage the bank by doing real estate silly peoples
On May 10 2008 03:27 SneakrFreakr wrote:
Baal - I don't deny the bank thingy at all. In fact, I believe that this ratio might be even higher than 9:1. But somewhere in this thread u said that the banks are just trying to take over the whole world and they will eventually own it etc etc
As for the Pentagon photo you posted - it kinda makes me laugh cause I saw one conspiracy theory video about the Pentagon being hit on 9/11 and it showed a completely different building with a completely different damage. So wtf? Plus the "government exhibit" thingy on the photo just makes me laugh.
And plz give some examples of let's say Germany - when did they kill their own people in order to start a war? I'm no good at history but I'm pretty sure it never happened.
Germans killed jews, gays, gypsies, etc... that lived in germany. You should educate yourself more sir.
o rly? i'm talking about sth different. the fact that they were killing those people within their own territory wasn't a reason why the world war 2 started. you should learn how to read properly sir
About 9/11 I personally believe it is possible that important members of the US government knew what was going to happen but it was perfect for them so they just made sure to allow it to happen. Maybe even helped in some subtle way by making it less probable for air defense to shoot those planes down and/or leaking important info that was valuable to the arabs, but I think planting explosives and other such shit is not realistic...
Whats the difference exactly?
It is a technical difference only!
But the controlled demolition claims or "lack of real planes" and other silly details tilt me quite a bit and make those conspiracy theorists look like clowns. Probably they know very well that they are wrong about those details but use them because they think the public is more interested in such stuff, either way I hate it
Look at that idiot and his edited videos
Look closely at the first plane. Looks like they were not edited... It's harder to see the flash in the 2nd plane, but it's visible if you really focus.
The problem with these extreme conspiracy theories is that the assumption that the number of people involved have all been kept quiet (such as the 9/11 stuff which would have taken 1000s of conspirators to explain the theories) is far less likely than assuming that some things are as yet unexplained within the orthodox theories.
JFK was obviously a conspiracy though - Oliver Stone NEVER lies.
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