account hacked.

I go to log onto my full tilt poker account just now after not logging in for 3-4 days. I gives me a "waiting for permission" screen then a random 600 fpp point tourney table pops up im all in with 6-3 off or something. My account balance is 1 cent. Someone has been playing on and trashing my account without my knowledge. I emailed full tilt. Do i have any chance of recovering funds or ANYTHING? I'm so phazed.

Depends if the money was lost "legimately" or was obvious chip dumping I THINK...

I requested hand histories to find out and i know none of the money was player transfered. I don't see why someone would hack an account to play seriously and my acct is busted so its not like they played well. when i tried to log into my acct some1 was shoving every hand of a fpp tourney.

Yeah its only fair for them to take money off non-legitimate players so only in cases of chipdumping

Wow what the fuck this is sick?

How the hell does this happen? Individuals can just hack your account, does it depend on how good your password is or computer security such as key loggers and what not?

Hope full tilt support can clear this up and hopefully you can save the majority of your br

Stay logged in all the time, never download shady ass programs or go to shady ass websites, virus check your pc every day, and make a hard password.


There, I just made your account 99.9999999999999999999999999999999% "hack proof".

shit aint right

hope you get it all back

GL

pretty sick, do you know how it happened?

Isnt this now the second or third story about this in like a week now? Some new program / site out that people have been visiting or something?

unless it was blatantly dumped you wont get it back, and even if it was only small chance

try to keep your accounts logged in at all times/buy a computer to use only for poker

were yu drunk?

does any1 else know ur password?

One other thing that is probably worth mentioning is no matter how good your poker p/w is you should probably take measure to prevent people from working around it. For example, If someone knows your e-mail address and clicks "forgot p/w" in FT, FT will easily send a new password to your e-mail address. If that other person can get into your e-mail address then its all over. So make sure security questions and passwords for e-mail are also secure.
Also a good idea to get a good personal security suite that includes a built in firewall along with virus scanners/identity and privacy protection/ e-mail and IM protection like McAfee. If your using a wireless router make sure its encrypted with passcodes.

oh god that sucks

wait, one thread said that you SHOULDN'T stay logged in, but here u guys are saying to stay logged in... which is right and WHY?

keylogging would be the easiest way to steal a password. if you never type your password it can never be stolen

My little brother hacked my password. I requested the hand histories to see how the hell he lost it all. I didn't have a lot on there but he sure as hell is going to pay.

wow.... lol little brothers are -ev.. out of interest how much did he lose of your money?

On November 19 2007 15:46 traxamillion wrote: My little brother hacked my password. I requested the hand histories to see how the hell he lost it all. I didn't have a lot on there but he sure as hell is going to pay.

Updates on this

post the hands

Yeah post the hands + updates on this

+ ROFL @ Getting owned by little brother

Ouch, that sucks.. how old is the "little" brother?

Little as in oh his my 22 year old younger brother or like 12 or something? And would your parents pay you/make him pay you back?

And as for staying logged in ALL the time, isn't that bad?

your not much of big brother if you got punk'd so hard by your little brother...put the fear of god in them

He had my password because I let him play some FPP point tournies a while ago which I had forgot about. Apparently yesterday he got on my account just to mess around, got stuck, chased losses, busted the whole account. He doesn't really play cards so never had a chance but he didn't really know that. I was so pissed earlier I almost beat the shit out of him in front of my moms house but instead gave him 2 days to get my money back otherwise I am taking his computer and cell phone as collateral (was gonna stomp him and i probably would anyone else but he is my brother). It was only a couple hundred bucks so its not like i lost some irrecoverable amount of money. Pretty irresponsible for a 19 year old tho (i'm 22).

Full Tilt just sent me a notepad file of my last thousand hands but it is pretty hard to read as is. How can I import this into PT? just move the whole file into the c:/fulltilt/hh ?

Also I think a lot of the money was lost in tournies but they didn't send me those. Do i have to request them seperately?

Will post hands once i figure this out probably will be some funny stuff in there; might as well get a laugh out of it

Give him a beating to start and force him to work at Mc Donalds so he can understand the value of 1 dollar.

whatever i'm sure he feels bad; maybe i will teach him to play and he can pay me back later that way.

By traxamillion at 2007-11-19

cash game part from the 1st 1k hands i was sent in the email

-50ptbb/100 :/

Although i did look at some of the hands and he did run very bad. I saw potential in his play; at least he is aggressive.

just got my last email from ftp obv they cant give me money back cause ultimately this is my fault; im kinda over it now tho. gonna cost me this months rakeback. Time to grind it back

Submitted by : traxamillion

FullTiltPoker Game #4209569076: Table Savin (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:41:03 ET - 2007/11/17
Seat 1: monkii ($45.15)
Seat 2: lovenstein ($21.05)
Seat 3: DaviDog ($37.55)
Seat 4: traxamillion ($22.30)
Seat 5: mdmaniac ($11.30)
Seat 6: john-ecom ($15.70)
lovenstein posts the small blind of $0.10
DaviDog posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #1

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to traxamillion
traxamillion calls $0.25
mdmaniac folds
john-ecom raises to $1.10
monkii folds
lovenstein calls $1
DaviDog folds
traxamillion calls $0.85

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $3.55)

   
lovenstein checks
traxamillion bets $2.75
john-ecom has 15 seconds left to act
john-ecom raises to $9.50
lovenstein folds
traxamillion calls $6.75

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $22.55)

   
traxamillion bets $11.70, and is all in
john-ecom calls $5.10, and is all in
traxamillion shows
john-ecom shows
Uncalled bet of $6.60 returned to traxamillion

River (Pot : $39.35)

   
traxamillion shows Ace Jack high
john-ecom shows a pair of Tens
john-ecom wins the pot ($31.15) with a pair of Tens

Summary
Total pot $32.75 | Rake $1.60
Board:  
Seat 1: monkii (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: lovenstein (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: DaviDog (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: traxamillion showed and lost with Ace Jack high
Seat 5: mdmaniac didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: john-ecom showed and won ($31.15) with a pair of Tens

FullTiltPoker Game #4208143185: Table Wafer (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:21:54 ET - 2007/11/17
Seat 1: canonman1634 ($27.15)
Seat 2: Siktet hvetemel ($34.85)
Seat 3: Forstning ($32.30)
Seat 4: artoodeetoo ($63.35)
Seat 5: traxamillion ($24.40)
Seat 6: sabotaj ($37.55)
Forstning posts the small blind of $0.10
artoodeetoo posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #2

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to traxamillion
traxamillion raises to $0.75
sabotaj raises to $2.55
canonman1634 folds
Siktet hvetemel folds
Forstning folds
artoodeetoo folds
traxamillion calls $1.80

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $5.45)

   
traxamillion bets $2.25
sabotaj raises to $35, and is all in
traxamillion calls $19.60, and is all in
sabotaj shows
traxamillion shows
Uncalled bet of $13.15 returned to sabotaj

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $49.15)

   

River (Pot : $49.15)

   
sabotaj shows a pair of Kings
traxamillion shows Ace Nine high
sabotaj wins the pot ($46.70) with a pair of Kings

Summary
Total pot $49.15 | Rake $2.45
Board:  
Seat 1: canonman1634 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Siktet hvetemel (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Forstning (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: artoodeetoo (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: traxamillion showed and lost with Ace Nine high
Seat 6: sabotaj showed and won ($46.70) with a pair of Kings

this is standard

Submitted by : traxamillion

FullTiltPoker Game #4209297149: Table Critic (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - Pot Limit Hold'em - 19:13:47 ET - 2007/11/17
Seat 1: DR_Brown ($7.20)
Seat 2: traxamillion ($35.20)
Seat 4: shutton ($19.40)
Seat 5: rman69 ($8.90)
Seat 6: ironlion69 ($55.40)
DR_Brown has 5 seconds left to act
DR_Brown posts the small blind of $0.10
traxamillion posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #6

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to traxamillion
shutton raises to $0.75
rman69 folds
ironlion69 folds
DR_Brown folds
traxamillion raises to $1.25
shutton raises to $3.85
traxamillion raises to $11.65
shutton raises to $19.40, and is all in
traxamillion calls $7.75
shutton shows
traxamillion shows

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $38.90)

   

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $38.90)

   

River (Pot : $38.90)

   
shutton shows two pair, Tens and Sixes
traxamillion shows a pair of Sixes
shutton wins the pot ($37) with two pair, Tens and Sixes

Summary
Total pot $38.90 | Rake $1.90
Board:  
Seat 1: DR_Brown (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: traxamillion (big blind) showed and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 4: shutton showed and won ($37) with two pair, Tens and Sixes
Seat 5: rman69 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: ironlion69 (button) didn't bet (folded)

tell your brother to stick to pl holdem

almost

Submitted by : traxamillion

FullTiltPoker Game #4208089523: Table Wafer (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:16:41 ET - 2007/11/17
Seat 1: canonman1634 ($31.20)
Seat 2: Siktet hvetemel ($37.60)
Seat 3: Forstning ($32.90)
Seat 4: artoodeetoo ($49.40)
Seat 5: traxamillion ($25)
Seat 6: sabotaj ($33.90)
Siktet hvetemel posts the small blind of $0.10
Forstning posts the big blind of $0.25
traxamillion posts $0.25
The button is in seat #1

Holecards
Dealt to traxamillion
artoodeetoo has 15 seconds left to act
artoodeetoo raises to $1.15
traxamillion raises to $5
sabotaj folds
canonman1634 folds
Siktet hvetemel folds
Forstning folds
artoodeetoo has 15 seconds left to act
artoodeetoo calls $3.85

Flop (Pot : $10.35)

   
artoodeetoo checks
traxamillion checks

Turn (Pot : $10.35)

   
artoodeetoo bets $6
traxamillion calls $6

River (Pot : $22.35)

   
artoodeetoo checks
traxamillion checks

Showdown
artoodeetoo shows a pair of Tens
traxamillion mucks
artoodeetoo wins the pot ($21.25) with a pair of Tens

Summary
Total pot $22.35 | Rake $1.10
Board:  
Seat 1: canonman1634 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Siktet hvetemel (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: Forstning (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: artoodeetoo showed and won ($21.25) with a pair of Tens
Seat 5: traxamillion mucked - Ace King high
Seat 6: sabotaj didn't bet (folded)

Submitted by : traxamillion

FullTiltPoker Game #4206603891: Table Sparkling (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:46:36 ET - 2007/11/17
Seat 1: traxamillion ($12.10)
Seat 2: Luc987 ($10.70)
Seat 3: StandyUpDuck ($16.85)
Seat 4: Beggio ($9.50)
Seat 5: sylvainpecheur ($3)
Seat 6: Deadwood41 ($18.85)
Beggio posts the small blind of $0.05
sylvainpecheur posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #3

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to traxamillion
Deadwood41 folds
traxamillion raises to $0.20
Luc987 raises to $0.60
StandyUpDuck folds
Beggio folds
sylvainpecheur folds
traxamillion raises to $1
Luc987 raises to $3
traxamillion calls $2

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $6.15)

   
traxamillion checks
Luc987 bets $7.70, and is all in
traxamillion calls $7.70
Luc987 shows
traxamillion shows

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $21.55)

   

River (Pot : $21.55)

   
Luc987 shows a pair of Queens
traxamillion shows a pair of Fours
Luc987 wins the pot ($19.55) with a pair of Queens

Summary
Total pot $21.55 | Rake $2
Board:  
Seat 1: traxamillion showed and lost with a pair of Fours
Seat 2: Luc987 showed and won ($19.55) with a pair of Queens
Seat 3: StandyUpDuck (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Beggio (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: sylvainpecheur (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: Deadwood41 didn't bet (folded)

that's horrible wtf

bleh i feel kinda bad for him now after reading these hand histories. He was definately trying not just intentionally blowing my cash; all he had to do was let me know and i could teach him the basics so he could beat 10nl. He is a pretty bright kid just doesn't get poker yet.

Submitted by : traxamillion

FullTiltPoker Game #4202892806: Table Meteorite (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:06:55 ET - 2007/11/17
Seat 1: BADKARMA_RU ($10), is sitting out
Seat 2: showerman9 ($17.95)
Seat 3: traxamillion ($10)
Seat 4: jayjp04 ($17.55)
Seat 5: The Doubted ($4.35)
Seat 6: MyLaserEyes ($7)
MyLaserEyes posts the small blind of $0.05
showerman9 posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #5

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to traxamillion
traxamillion raises to $0.20
jayjp04 has 15 seconds left to act
jayjp04 folds
The Doubted folds
MyLaserEyes calls $0.15
showerman9 folds

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $0.50)

   
MyLaserEyes bets $0.50
traxamillion calls $0.50

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $1.50)

   
MyLaserEyes checks
traxamillion bets $0.20
MyLaserEyes calls $0.20

River (Pot : $1.90)

   
MyLaserEyes has 15 seconds left to act
MyLaserEyes bets $2.50
traxamillion raises to $9.10, and is all in
MyLaserEyes has 15 seconds left to act
MyLaserEyes calls $3.60, and is all in
Uncalled bet of $3 returned to traxamillion

Showdown
traxamillion shows two pair, Kings and Fives
MyLaserEyes shows two pair, Kings and Queens
MyLaserEyes wins the pot ($13.10) with two pair, Kings and Queens

Summary
Total pot $14.10 | Rake $1
Board:  
Seat 1: BADKARMA_RU is sitting out
Seat 2: showerman9 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: traxamillion showed and lost with two pair, Kings and Fives
Seat 4: jayjp04 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: The Doubted (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: MyLaserEyes (small blind) showed and won ($13.10) with two pair, Kings and Queens

tilting

Submitted by : traxamillion

FullTiltPoker Game #4206396810: Table Sparkling (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:22:56 ET - 2007/11/17
Seat 1: traxamillion ($18.80)
Seat 2: Donnie Darko ($15.10)
Seat 3: StandyUpDuck ($9.90)
Seat 5: sue1987 ($36.85)
Seat 6: Deadwood41 ($10.15)
StandyUpDuck posts the small blind of $0.05
sue1987 posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #1

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to traxamillion
Deadwood41 raises to $0.35
traxamillion raises to $1
StandyUpDuck folds
sue1987 folds
Deadwood41 calls $0.65

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $2.15)

   
Deadwood41 checks
traxamillion bets $1.50
Deadwood41 raises to $9.15, and is all in
traxamillion calls $7.65
Deadwood41 shows
traxamillion shows

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $20.45)

   

River (Pot : $20.45)

   
Deadwood41 shows a full house, Nines full of Twos
traxamillion shows two pair, Jacks and Nines
Deadwood41 wins the pot ($19.45) with a full house, Nines full of Twos

Summary
Total pot $20.45 | Rake $1
Board:  
Seat 1: traxamillion (button) showed and lost with two pair, Jacks and Nines
Seat 2: Donnie Darko is sitting out
Seat 3: StandyUpDuck (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: sue1987 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: Deadwood41 showed and won ($19.45) with a full house, Nines full of Twos

lol if I were you I would beat the shit out of him BECAUSE he's my brother; then after he repaid me I might teach him for 50% of his profits for 6months of something

standard? All of that was pretty bad =) funny how he's super aggressive without a hand, then hits 2pair and calls / bets tiny. calls down with any pair or A high, lol.

when did i say any of this was standard. It is -50ptbb/100 poker. I am posting the hands because they are absurd. He is a play money player who got a hold of a real money account what do you expect. The one hand that i said was standard was when he got it ai pre with ak which is fine. Some hands I didn't post here were also okay. I'm just saying if he learned i think he could get decent.

Or he could just play tournies

oh wow, that's pretty immature and greedy of your brother to go into your account like that and try to play. Good for you for taking the high road though and not just beating the crap out of him. At first I thought your brother was like 15-17, I could see that happening but not at 19.

u got a cute brother

LOL @ hands

"Well at least he's got heart" - Vince Van Patten

rofl dumbass wtf make that bitch pay

On November 19 2007 13:28 k2o4 wrote: wait, one thread said that you SHOULDN'T stay logged in, but here u guys are saying to stay logged in... which is right and WHY?

Staying logged in at all times makes it impossible for hackers/anyone knowing your password to get into you r account. Also, this way you never type your password, so a keylogger is useless against you.

So this is what you should do if you're the only one with physical access to the computer.

But if your computer can be reached by someone else, obviously staying logged in/having your password stored is a much greater risk. So for most people, I think that staying logged in all the time would probably be riskier.

FINGERPRINT VERIFICATION PLZ

You have to strike fear in your little brother. I'd have no problems giving my brother my password because he knows whats in store if I'm down even 1 dollar.

Wouldnt fingerprints be almost as easy to record/forge/fake? Your computer doesnt read a fingerprint, it sees patterns and makes them into a file which would be easily grabbed from your pc or logged with rudimentary spyware

at least he moved down to 10nl!!1111

brother should be beaten up out of principle regardless of whether or not he pays the money back.

hey ur brother plays like the people who suckout me @ipoker, maybe he could win there w his play

On November 20 2007 03:59 KeanuReaver wrote: brother should be beaten up out of principle regardless of whether or not he pays the money back.

i would make him grind NL 1/2 penny for the money + interest.

On November 20 2007 00:50 [vital]Myth wrote: FINGERPRINT VERIFICATION PLZ

what a newb. my 14yo brother is running at like 100ptbb playing microstakes limit holdem on my money, my brother>yours

If he won the sunday million I wonder how this would go.

lol have u had "words" with your brother yet?

On November 20 2007 01:08 SKoT wrote: Wouldnt fingerprints be almost as easy to record/forge/fake? Your computer doesnt read a fingerprint, it sees patterns and makes them into a file which would be easily grabbed from your pc or logged with rudimentary spyware

Seriously?




Also lol.

updates plz

No real developments yet. Realistically he can't pay me back and I'm not going to beat his ass anymore. I am going over there tomorrow though to have some sort of discussion with him. Thing is if he was all defiant about it and had a bad attitude i would put him in check but he genuinely feels bad; I'm just going to make him pay me back in some way haven't really decided yet.

sorry to disappoint :/

On November 19 2007 11:26 JohnnyBologna wrote: One other thing that is probably worth mentioning is no matter how good your poker p/w is you should probably take measure to prevent people from working around it. For example, If someone knows your e-mail address and clicks "forgot p/w" in FT, FT will easily send a new password to your e-mail address. If that other person can get into your e-mail address then its all over. So make sure security questions and passwords for e-mail are also secure. Also a good idea to get a good personal security suite that includes a built in firewall along with virus scanners/identity and privacy protection/ e-mail and IM protection like McAfee. If your using a wireless router make sure its encrypted with passcodes.

This is a very good post. Certain loopholes can be a huge security breach.

On November 19 2007 11:26 JohnnyBologna wrote: One other thing that is probably worth mentioning is no matter how good your poker p/w is you should probably take measure to prevent people from working around it. For example, If someone knows your e-mail address and clicks "forgot p/w" in FT, FT will easily send a new password to your e-mail address. If that other person can get into your e-mail address then its all over. So make sure security questions and passwords for e-mail are also secure. Also a good idea to get a good personal security suite that includes a built in firewall along with virus scanners/identity and privacy protection/ e-mail and IM protection like McAfee. If your using a wireless router make sure its encrypted with passcodes.

*giggle*

-

2 things about full tilt, there are more accounts hacked there then any other site by FAR and ive said this a million times there rng isnt audited by a 3rd party like every other site that is online EVERY other site. Id storgly suggest u dont play there

On November 20 2007 23:03 hockey4433 wrote: 2 things about full tilt, there are more accounts hacked there then any other site by FAR and ive said this a million times there rng isnt audited by a 3rd party like every other site that is online EVERY other site. Id storgly suggest u dont play there

I lost AA twice in a row there. Def rigged.