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Jamie217   Canada. Feb 13 2021 16:03. Posts 4351 | | | |
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dnagardi   Hungary. Feb 13 2021 18:30. Posts 1779 | | |
so your opp played it perfectly and you luckedboxed it
or am I missing something
also how can calling a 4bet oop with A7s be profitable? |
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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Feb 13 2021 21:18. Posts 5365 | | |
Your missing something for sure. You can just look up the answers in the sim these days to check if A7s is a profitable defend or not, instead of relying on intuition. |
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Nitewin   United States. Feb 13 2021 23:14. Posts 1552 | | |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Feb 13 2021 23:59. Posts 15163 | | | |
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Oddeye   Canada. Feb 14 2021 01:39. Posts 5107 | | |
very interesting, so you basically x minr most low dry flop then cbet turn then xf? Obv it always depend but in general. I wouldn't think that was a good defend either but I'm surprised, and I honestly do not get it, not saying it's wrong but it sure does seem |
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Oddeye   Canada. Feb 14 2021 01:46. Posts 5107 | | |
I don't think the 4b is too small, maybe could make it slightly bigger since it's 120bb but the sizing is def within the normal range (2.2~2.4x is fine INP). I'd make it bigger next time if someone called me with A7s. |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Feb 14 2021 14:27. Posts 15163 | | |
| | On February 14 2021 00:39 Oddeye wrote:
very interesting, so you basically x minr most low dry flop then cbet turn then xf? Obv it always depend but in general. I wouldn't think that was a good defend either but I'm surprised, and I honestly do not get it, not saying it's wrong but it sure does seem |
Man
the good old days without a RNG :D |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Feb 14 2021 14:29. Posts 15163 | | |
It's a common theme when you work with solvers and look at what HS players do
"if any of the older school guys saw you do this they'd think you are retarded" :D |
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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Feb 14 2021 14:42. Posts 5365 | | |
In my view people pick their IP 3bet/4bet sizes to be a little too small. Most z200 regs are under 2.5x for 4bets, it can be exploited by calling wide and checkfolding flops at a highish frequency. I'm not sure why this is such a common mistake since the sims have been out there for a while now. |
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dnagardi   Hungary. Feb 14 2021 22:34. Posts 1779 | | |
| | On February 14 2021 13:29 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
"if any of the older school guys saw you do this they'd think you are retarded" :D |
yea thats actually pretty much me. I was playing NL200 10 years ago, and don't know anything about sims or solvers. But if this is what a profitable line is today when 2 regs are playing then poker changed extremely. |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Feb 15 2021 23:54. Posts 15163 | | |
| | On February 14 2021 21:34 dnagardi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2021 13:29 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
"if any of the older school guys saw you do this they'd think you are retarded" :D |
yea thats actually pretty much me. I was playing NL200 10 years ago, and don't know anything about sims or solvers. But if this is what a profitable line is today when 2 regs are playing then poker changed extremely.
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not sure about 4B pots
but in 3bet pots you will see a cbet + minraise + min-re-raise quite a bit lol
And you use RNG, a lot of hands like these will be close to 0 EV so you mix them in some of the time |
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