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hiems   United States. Oct 26 2020 00:28. Posts 2979

I'm only posting hands where I look good.

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I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img]Last edit: 26/10/2020 00:41

Nitewin   United States. Oct 26 2020 01:44. Posts 1552

the sizing looks pro but the player is not!


hiems   United States. Oct 26 2020 01:52. Posts 2979


  On October 26 2020 00:44 Nitewin wrote:
the sizing looks pro but the player is not!



I didn't post this hand to make fun of this guy. actually told him I respected the heart after this hand. idk what I think about his play but just because it didn't work out doesn't mean he's a bad player.

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Oddeye   Canada. Oct 26 2020 03:05. Posts 5107

If he is gonna keep betting do you really want to call down flop with only backdoor draws in a 3b pot OOP?


hiems   United States. Oct 26 2020 03:27. Posts 2979


  On October 26 2020 02:05 Oddeye wrote:
If he is gonna keep betting do you really want to call down flop with only backdoor draws in a 3b pot OOP?



Yeah I mean I should be C/r flop with a reasonably high frquency here esp since I have more sets than him, its a non rainbow flop, and lots of hands will probably c/r for protection like 9x and maybe some TT that exists. To be fair I have a negative redline and a part of that is probably taking this line too much instead of the c/r line.

I think obv pio never folds flop here, and yea if we call flop we are probably calling flop trying to hit 7x and 8x and it was actual along the lines of what I was thinking at the time. Idk what freq it check raises vs calls tbh. Will run it later.

Im not sure what you mean by "if hes going to keep betting here". We dont know that on the flop or what his strategy is with other holdings.





I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img]Last edit: 26/10/2020 03:37

Oddeye   Canada. Oct 26 2020 04:41. Posts 5107

I mean I can't really know his strategy since I have no info but he did 3 barrel with QK with no draw so he most likely is very aggressive and he is ahead on flop just about every time. I can be wrong but it seems like you'll be stuck making a play with a marginal hand at best on turn. I'm curious about the solver decision tree here. I would fold a certain % of the time here on flop. Check raise would represent draws and mid pairs/TT/A9/sets. Also having a losing redline is pretty std, I wouldn't worry about it if you are winning unless it's like plummeting.


hiems   United States. Oct 26 2020 14:33. Posts 2979



lol you're spot on.

I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img]Last edit: 26/10/2020 14:53

hiems   United States. Oct 26 2020 14:49. Posts 2979



Seems reasonable in terms of EV loss though.

I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img]Last edit: 26/10/2020 14:53

Oddeye   Canada. Oct 26 2020 18:55. Posts 5107

Yeah it seems like all options have close EV. Closer than I expected, anyway thanks for posting that!


Nitewin   United States. Oct 27 2020 13:36. Posts 1552

Wondering if you call down here with 55, 66, 88 some percentage of the time as well


lebowski   Greece. Oct 27 2020 19:11. Posts 9205

these backdoors are too weak even for srp c/c standards probably
In srp I think solver would raise instead of calling and would only call with the highest bdf draws

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hiems   United States. Oct 27 2020 21:19. Posts 2979


  On October 27 2020 18:11 lebowski wrote:
these backdoors are too weak even for srp c/c standards probably
In srp I think solver would raise instead of calling and would only call with the highest bdf draws



Hm interesting ill run it later. Don't you think on this board tho its relevant that bb doesnt have 22,33 alot of 9x compared to bu vs bb where he has all of those?

In general I agree tho this hand highlights probably a leak in my overall game.

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