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UFC on ESPN 9: Woodley vs. Burns

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PuertoRican   United States. May 23 2020 01:21. Posts 11671

Date: Saturday, May 30
Main Card (ESPN): 2:00 LP.net / 6pm PST / 9pm EST
Preliminary Card (ESPN): 23:00 LP.net / 3pm PST / 6pm EST
Live Streams: http://crackstreams.com/mma/2/




Main Card (ESPN)

Tyron Woodley (19-4-1) vs. Gilbert Burns (18-3) (Welterweight)
Augusto Sakai (14-1-1) vs. Blagoy Ivanov (18-3) (Heavyweight)
Billy Quarantillo (13-2) vs. Spike Carlyle (9-1) (Catchweight - 150 lbs)
Roosevelt Roberts (9-1) vs. Brok Weaver (15-4) (Lightweight)
Mackenzie Dern (7-1) vs. Hannah Cifers (10-4) (Women's Strawweight)

Preliminary Card (ESPN)

Katlyn Chookagian (13-3) vs. Antonina Shevchenko (8-1) (Women's Flyweight)
Gabriel Green (9-2) vs. Daniel Rodriguez (11-1) (Welterweight)
Klidson Abreu (15-4) vs. Jamahal Hill (7-0) (Light Heavyweight)
Tim Elliott (15-10-1) vs. Brandon Rovyal (10-4) (Flyweight)
Casey Kenney (13-2-1) vs. Louis Smolka (16-6) (Bantamweight)
Chris Gutierrez (14-4-1) vs. Vince Morales (9-4) (Bantamweight)

Other

- On May 26, Kevin Holland was forced to withdraw from his scheduled welterweight bout with Daniel Rodriguez due to an injury. He was replaced by promotional newcomer Gabriel Green on the same day.

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PuertoRican   United States. May 23 2020 01:23. Posts 11671

First impression of the match-ups:

• Burns > Woodley
• Sakai > Ivanov
• Holland > Rodriguez
• Roberts > Weaver
• Dern > Cifers
• Chookagian > Shevchenko
• Quarantillo vs. Carlyle (dunno)
• Abreu > Hill
• Elliott > Royval
• Kenney > Smolka
• Gutierrez > Morales

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balakubak   . May 23 2020 02:57. Posts 119

I don't know a lot about Burns but I don't know man. After Lawler, two Thompson fights and Till, you just never know with Woodley.

 Last edit: 23/05/2020 13:09

Baalim   Mexico. May 24 2020 07:56. Posts 33311

I wonder if woobly will be as passive and boring when he is not defending a title.. probalby he will.

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balakubak   . May 24 2020 20:40. Posts 119


  On May 24 2020 06:56 Baalim wrote:
I wonder if woobly will be as passive and boring when he is not defending a title.. probalby he will.



Without the title he'll be more aggressive, I think. Since he's chasing it.

There are two different mindsets with going after the title and having the title. I think the latter would tend to make some fighters more defensive/passive/play it safe.

 Last edit: 24/05/2020 20:43

Into Infinity   United States. May 25 2020 19:51. Posts 1859

i have no idea who like half the people on this card are.

i'd imagine burn's explosiveness will play into tyron's strengths since he's been counter heavy his last few fights, but really depends on which tyron shows up on saturday

woodley ? burns
sakai > ivanov
dern > cifers
chookagian > shev (although would be funny if chookagian lost to both sisters)


PuertoRican   United States. May 27 2020 09:31. Posts 11671

Can one of the moderators change the title for the following UFC threads? Thank you:

Change the Woodley/Burns thread to: UFC on ESPN 9: Woodley vs. Burns


And change the Overeem/Harris thread to: UFC on ESPN 8: Overeem vs. Harris
https://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-for...FC_on_ESPN_9:_Overeem_vs._Harris.html

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Ryan Neilly   United States. May 27 2020 23:09. Posts 1348

Holland parlay with in the 1st?


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. May 27 2020 23:29. Posts 9077

I wonder if Ivanov stayed in the US for the past few months or was back here. There's no way he trained properly here unless he has a private gym at his own house


PuertoRican   United States. May 28 2020 05:01. Posts 11671


  On May 27 2020 22:09 Ryan Neilly wrote:
Holland parlay with in the 1st?





1. Kevin Holland pulled out yesterday (May 26) due to a shoulder injury in the gym.
2. Gabriel Green replaced him on the same day.
3. Gabriel Green is a 155`er going to 170 on 3-days notice.
4. People expect Daniel Rodriguez to beat Green, and beat him by TKO.
5. Green is 9-2, and all of his wins and losses have ended ITD. This fight card is at the UFC APEX, and they use a 25-foot cage in the APEX instead of the usual 30-foot cage that we see during PPV events. The 25-foot cage means more action and more finishes, so I expect Green vs. Rodriguez to end ITD for multiple reasons.


  On May 27 2020 22:29 Spitfiree wrote:
I wonder if Ivanov stayed in the US for the past few months or was back here. There's no way he trained properly here unless he has a private gym at his own house


Ivanov has been training at Extreme Couture in Las Vegas with Francis Ngannou. Ivanov helped Ngannou train for his win over Rozenstruik.

I still like Sakai over Ivanov.

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PuertoRican   United States. May 28 2020 05:24. Posts 11671

Current props I have bets on (5dimes):

- .5u on Carlyle submission +1175
- .5u on Gutierrez TKO/KO +1085
- 5u max bet on Sakai no scorecards -111
- 1u on Dern TKO/KO +850
- 1u on Weaver/Roberts ITD +140
- 1u on Abreu/Hill ITD +120
- 1.5u on Burns decision +450 (before I learned about the small cage, but still not mad about it)

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balakubak   . May 28 2020 07:44. Posts 119


  On May 27 2020 22:29 Spitfiree wrote:
I wonder if Ivanov stayed in the US for the past few months or was back here. There's no way he trained properly here unless he has a private gym at his own house



Ivanov training at home

https://coub.com/view/g0q5z


balakubak   . May 28 2020 07:46. Posts 119


  On May 28 2020 04:24 PuertoRican wrote:
Current props I have bets on (5dimes):

- .5u on Carlyle submission +1175
- .5u on Gutierrez TKO/KO +1085
- 5u max bet on Sakai no scorecards -111
- 1u on Dern TKO/KO +850
- 1u on Weaver/Roberts ITD +140
- 1u on Abreu/Hill ITD +120
- 1.5u on Burns decision +450 (before I learned about the small cage, but still not mad about it)



Are you now leaning Woodley with the smaller cage?


PuertoRican   United States. May 28 2020 07:54. Posts 11671


  On May 28 2020 06:46 balakubak wrote:
Show nested quote +



Are you now leaning Woodley with the smaller cage?

Nope.

I still think Woodley can only win if he lands clean with his overhand right. If he doesn't, then he should lose.

I seriously don't understand the people who keep saying Woodley has the better striking. It makes no sense.

Also, people keep talking about this being a 5-round fight and Burns has cardio issues. Well, Woodley isn't any better with his cardio, which is why he likes to keep his back against the cage and scare people with the threat of his overhand right -- as long as you stay on the outside, Woodley gets to rest against the cage and not be forced to use any energy until he explodes on you (he literally explodes off of the cage and runs at you with a few punches that aren't technical at all, but will hurt if they hit you).

Woodley's wrestling won't be an issue here, as it takes energy to take someone down, and Woodley has shown he will get tired just from being on top of you without him or you doing any damage.

I'm going to add more on Burns on Friday, once I see what his point spread will open at on 5dimes.

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balakubak   . May 29 2020 04:16. Posts 119

I was just thinking with Woodley being the more explosive fighter, the smaller cage could be to his advantage.


PuertoRican   United States. May 29 2020 04:45. Posts 11671


  On May 29 2020 03:16 balakubak wrote:
I was just thinking with Woodley being the more explosive fighter, the smaller cage could be to his advantage.


If Woodley didn't always put his back against the cage, then the cage size might come into play.

Since he stands against the cage, the size of the cage won't matter since he doesn't push forward. He allows his opponents to always be the aggressor, and he just tries to counter them when they come in. He did the same thing in his loss to Usman -- Usman was ready for this, so he just closed the distance, which greatly reduced the amount of times that Woodley was able to throw his overhand right.

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balakubak   . May 29 2020 13:58. Posts 119

Ok, that makes sense. I don't know a lot about Burns though. Does he have the ability to do it like Usman? Cos Usman is huge, I don't think a lot of fighters could do Woodley like he did.


PuertoRican   United States. May 29 2020 20:09. Posts 11671


  On May 29 2020 12:58 balakubak wrote:
Ok, that makes sense. I don't know a lot about Burns though. Does he have the ability to do it like Usman? Cos Usman is huge, I don't think a lot of fighters could do Woodley like he did.


If Burns was able to do what Usman did, then Burns wouldn't be a +160 underdog at the books.

Burns and Usman are nothing alike.

Also, Usman opened as a +105 underdog and closed as a +165 underdog against Woodley, which was crazy. All of us who were confident in Usman ended up making a lot of profit.

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PuertoRican   United States. May 29 2020 21:14. Posts 11671




Main card (ESPN/ESPN+, 6pm PST / 9pm EST)

Tyron Woodley (170.5 lbs) vs. Gilbert Burns (170.5 lbs)
Blagoy Ivanov (255.5 lbs) vs. Augusto Sakai (259.5 lbs)
Gabriel Green (170.5 lbs) vs. Daniel Rodriguez (170 lbs)
Roosevelt Roberts (156 lbs) vs. Brok Weaver (157.5 lbs)*
Hannah Cifers (115.5 lbs) vs. Mackenzie Dern (115.5 lbs)

Preliminary card (ESPN, ESPN+, 3pm PST / 6pm EST)

Katlyn Chookagian (126 lbs) vs. Antonina Shevchenko (125.5 lbs)
Spike Carlyle (150 lbs) vs. Billy Quarantillo (149.5 lbs)
Klidson Abreu (206 lbs) vs. Jamahal Hill (205.5 lbs)
Tim Elliott (126 lbs) vs. Brandon Royval (125.5 lbs)
Casey Kenney (136 lbs) vs. Louis Smolka (136 lbs)
Chris Gutierrez (145.5 lbs) vs. Vince Morales (145.5 lbs)


*Brok Weaver missed weight and has been fined 20% of his purse.

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PuertoRican   United States. Today 02:45. Posts 11671

Burns ML +165 2u for 3.3u
Burns ML +160 5u for 8u
Burns ML +150 2u for 3u
Burns ML +135 1u for 1.3u
Burns decision +450 1.5u for 6.7u
Burns split/maj decision +1105 .5u for 5.5u
Woodley split/maj decision +1095 .5u for 5.5u
Sakai ML +105 2u for 2.1u
Sakai no scorecards -111 5.5u for 5u
Carlyle ML +140 1u for 1.4u
Carlyle submission +1175 .5u for 5.8u
Roberts ITD +193 1.5u for 2.9u
Weaver/Roberts ITD +140 1u for 1.4u
Dern TKO/KO +1250 .5u for 6.2u
Dern TKO/KO +850 1u for 8.5u
Rodriguez submission +1075 1u for 10.7u
Green submission +1005 .5u for 5u
Abreu/Hill ITD +120 1u for 1.2u
Gutierrez no scorecards +190 2u for 3.8u
Gutierrez TKO/KO +1085 .5u for 5.4u

Parlay: Cifers/Dern U1.5, Sakai no scorecards, Roberts -3.5, Gutierrez no scorecards 1u for 16.5u
Parlay: Sakai, Roberts, Kenney, Rodriguez ITD, Dern ITD 1u for 7.7u
Parlay: Burns decision, Sakai decision, Dern ITD 1u for 28u
Parlay: Dern/Cifers ITD, Sakai/Ivanov decision, Chookagian/Shevchenko decision 2u for 4.5u
Parlay: Dern ML, Roberts ML, Kenney ML 5u for 7.1u
Parlay: NOT Woodley R1, Sakai no scorecards, Carlyle/Quarantillo ITD, Roberts ITD, Dern ITD, Rodriguez ITD, Kenney no scorecards 1u for 40u
Parlay: NOT Woodley R1, Sakai no scorecards, Green/Rodriguez ITD, Roberts no scorecards, Dern TKO/KO, Kenney no scorecards .5u for 22.9u
Parlay: Cifers/Dern U1.5, Abreu ML, Sakai no scorecards, Roberts submission, Rodriguez ITD, Royval ITD .4u for 67.8u
Parlay: Burns/Woodley U4.5, Sakai/Blagoy U2.5, Carlyle/Quarantillo U2.5, Weaver/Roberts U2.5, Cifers/Dern U1.5, Abreu/Hill U2.5, Morales/Gutierrez U2.5 .1u for 35.8u
Parlay: Sakai TKO/KO, Dern TKO/KO, Shevchenko submission .1u for 96.3u
Parlay: Burns +5.5, Sakai no scorecards, Roberts -3.5, Dern -3.5, Green/Rodriguez ITD, Abreu no scorecards, Elliott -3.5, Smolka/Kenney decision .2u for 26.1u

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