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traxamillion   United States. Nov 28 2018 17:22. Posts 10468


  On November 12 2018 22:57 Spitfiree wrote:
I agree that their new gaems are shit, but they might as well try producing something good rather than reworking 15yo games?

I was pretty much a semi-pro @ wc3. Dont get me wrong, I like what they re doing, I just dont like the reasons they are doing it for.... 30eu for a 15yo game when your new games suck... really?

I even watched a few games a few months back in some random tournament in twitch. Tbh the game seems piss easy compared to starcraft, even though I thought differently when I was playing. Or maybe was just disappointed at seeing the "top" players now just being bad overall.

Also the Diablo Immortal announcement is a fucking joke... Its such a huge joke they insta lost 10% of their shares worth after announcing it. Since activision bought them, the only good thing they came up with is WoW Legion



They don't even have the teams and people anymore that created the 2 best RTS of all time (sc1 & wc3. Not only the best RTS but also top 3-5 games ever period along with smash bros melee and counter-strike).

Blizzard is incapable of creating the greate games they once did. Might as well redo the classics. You know how many people would prefer Smash Bros Melee HD over this Smash Ultimate (smash 4 engine trash remake) game coming out?

The money is in the normies these days. Mobile game garbage people waste their time on rather than getting their important work done and then setting aside some time at home to game on a computer or console. Not only can Blizzard sell the mobile games but the idiots who play that shit will eat up all the expensive DLC that comes along with it.


traxamillion   United States. Nov 28 2018 17:26. Posts 10468


  On November 12 2018 23:40 Expiate wrote:
Current rank 1 WC3 player (120 - his nickname) is pretty sick if you ask me. I've never seen someone like him own with UD in such a dominating way and I follow the pro scene since the very start of RoC. Grubby, Moon, Sky, th000 were all extremely sick during a time in their careers. 120 however is on another level. So, I wouldn't call the current top players bad.

Skill wise SC1, SC2 and WC3 are very different. I would not compare these. Moon played SC2 besides WC3 and had good results. SC2 and SC1 both had players that switched and performed good. I can't say *this* game is definitely higher skill capped than the others. We will find out one day when AI improves - whatever game is solved last is obviously hardest.



TH000 is still the best player. He is extremely sick. He and Infi play literally all 4 races at the pro level. TH0000 has actually won the last 2 world championships (over 120) and is the reigning world champion. The issue right now is the new 1.30 patch. 1.29 was actually quite balanced. In 1.30 every race got buffed except Human which got nerfed. With the new militia having 20 seconds vs 25 humans can't even get up the fast expands that they barely were able to get up before. This new KOTG vs a fast expand???? hahaha. HU is unviable it is a 3 race game right now (orc, ud, ne). TH000 is a human main. The game will be patched again soon.

120 is the best UD though and arguable #1 at this exact moment.


Expiate   Bulgaria. Nov 28 2018 18:51. Posts 236

It depends what ones mean by best. If it's all time tournament money won it's Moon. If it's all races all around it's th000. If it's pure skill and execution that is 120 for me. No UD player all these years since WC3 release won some of the major tournaments until 120 appeared and crushed everyone with the weakest race.

About the mobile gaming - I am starting to think we (old PC-only gamers) are already a dying species. Our time has passed, PC gaming brightest years are gone and will never return. It was fun while it lasted, just as with online poker.


Zografa   Bulgaria. Nov 28 2018 19:31. Posts 962


  On November 28 2018 15:09 Expiate wrote:
WGL started today.



someone heard smth about 500k$++ tournament about to be held next year? it will be insane and will give the wc3 the so much needed restart... im so in love with those classic blizzard games i cant even look at sc2

The fish call, the shark raise. 

dnagardi   Hungary. Nov 28 2018 19:57. Posts 1776

https://warcraft3.info/articles/228/n...t-700000-usd-in-tournaments-next-year


yea th00, moon, grubby

all time legends with deepest knowledge of the game

infi and sky had the sickest mechanics but were never really smart players


Baalim   Mexico. Nov 28 2018 22:49. Posts 34246

I loved WC2 and SC/BW, but I hated WC3 and SC2 not sure why.

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traxamillion   United States. Nov 30 2018 03:30. Posts 10468

you might hate wc3 but the game cannot even be compared to sc2. they are in absolutely no way similar.

wc3 is an extremely unique game with the heroes, npcs, and items


Expiate   Bulgaria. Nov 30 2018 12:29. Posts 236


  On November 28 2018 18:31 Zografa wrote:
someone heard smth about 500k$++ tournament about to be held next year?

Probably the China vs the World.


Trav94   Canada. Dec 01 2018 07:33. Posts 1785

WC3 was enjoyable. SC2 was pretty meh. Haven't touched sc2 in like 6 years though so no idea if it's better now.

But yea I don't think you can compare the 2. WC3 plays entirely different.

 Last edit: 01/12/2018 07:34

Expiate   Bulgaria. Dec 03 2018 17:21. Posts 236

Btw Moon's respect for 120 is also huge:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3NO1nfneCM&t=6m20s

It's sad 120 and th000 dropped out of the groups, but Moon is still in the tourney and performing incredible.

 Last edit: 03/12/2018 17:22

traxamillion   United States. Dec 03 2018 19:44. Posts 10468

yea human really got screwed in 1.30. Th000 still almost made it through though.

At least Infi made it


Expiate   Bulgaria. Dec 08 2018 15:34. Posts 236

Crazy 3rd game in the final.


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Dec 09 2018 01:38. Posts 9634

any link to twitch or smtng?


dnagardi   Hungary. Dec 09 2018 10:51. Posts 1776

https://www.twitch.tv/back2warcraft/videos

imba elf atm. kotg mass t1


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Dec 09 2018 22:08. Posts 9634

seems like huntresses are broken in current patch,... why dont orcs just do catas?? or turtle with fortified buildings for t3 and be annoying af

lyn used to be a top tier guy back in the day, watching him now and the mistakes he does, it kinda feels bad.... hero control terrible, decision making terrible... running into that fountain without a tp to allow the nelf to sandwich him... are you real ?:D

the NE guy I dont remember, but played decent except not being able to detonate wisps vs harrasing bm while creeping with his army, which is kind of pathetic if he s supposed to be a pro player

I feel like anyne from the ASL transitioning to wc3, would demolish them all

 Last edit: 09/12/2018 22:21

Expiate   Bulgaria. Dec 09 2018 22:26. Posts 236

NE seems super broken atm from what I saw at the WGL games. Moon dropped a single map before the final. The final was a NE mirror. Infi switched to NE to 3-1 Lyn for 3rd place, who lost to Moon in the semi without any chance to do anything at all. KotG, Alchemist and MGs seems to own any army composition. It reminds me of RoC 1.0 patch where DH mana burn was 300 haha.


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Dec 09 2018 23:02. Posts 9634

yeah guess they buffed kotg a lot( i mean they dont even go for the potm in mirror matches), orcs always had an issue with elves thats why they mixed in t2 tower rushes and 2spots mass raider attacks while expanding behind it...

 Last edit: 09/12/2018 23:03

dnagardi   Hungary. Dec 10 2018 18:57. Posts 1776


  On December 09 2018 21:08 Spitfiree wrote:
seems like huntresses are broken in current patch,... why dont orcs just do catas?? or turtle with fortified buildings for t3 and be annoying af

lyn used to be a top tier guy back in the day, watching him now and the mistakes he does, it kinda feels bad.... hero control terrible, decision making terrible... running into that fountain without a tp to allow the nelf to sandwich him... are you real ?:D

the NE guy I dont remember, but played decent except not being able to detonate wisps vs harrasing bm while creeping with his army, which is kind of pathetic if he s supposed to be a pro player

I feel like anyne from the ASL transitioning to wc3, would demolish them all



lyn is still top, vs infi he was playing like 70% of his potential.

you cant fortified cata lame because night elf ballistas are OP as fuck aswell. They crush you before you could mass up with catas.


traxamillion   United States. Dec 11 2018 00:28. Posts 10468


  On December 09 2018 21:08 Spitfiree wrote:
seems like huntresses are broken in current patch,... why dont orcs just do catas?? or turtle with fortified buildings for t3 and be annoying af

lyn used to be a top tier guy back in the day, watching him now and the mistakes he does, it kinda feels bad.... hero control terrible, decision making terrible... running into that fountain without a tp to allow the nelf to sandwich him... are you real ?:D

the NE guy I dont remember, but played decent except not being able to detonate wisps vs harrasing bm while creeping with his army, which is kind of pathetic if he s supposed to be a pro player

I feel like anyne from the ASL transitioning to wc3, would demolish them all



that was just a rare bad series from him. he is still insane and even in this tournament displayed some insane skill/micro. He still maintains an 80%+ winrate in the orc mirror. Elf is just busted as fuck and the KotG is extremely tilting to play against.


traxamillion   United States. Dec 11 2018 00:30. Posts 10468


  On December 09 2018 21:26 Expiate wrote:
NE seems super broken atm from what I saw at the WGL games. Moon dropped a single map before the final. The final was a NE mirror. Infi switched to NE to 3-1 Lyn for 3rd place, who lost to Moon in the semi without any chance to do anything at all. KotG, Alchemist and MGs seems to own any army composition. It reminds me of RoC 1.0 patch where DH mana burn was 300 haha.



lmao 300 mana burn. forgot about that. DH definitely was the most busted thing in the game for a while. at one point the meta was literally a race to meta (morphasis)


 
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