Next generation blockchain powered poker network launching April 20th 2018

Hi Guys,

We are a group that has been investing into Crypto for quite some time and are fellow poker players.

Over the past year, we have been building up a next generation Crypto powered poker game in the background which supports Bitcoin & Ethereum.

We have also improved various game features such as better RNG, more secure gameplay, far lower fees and an incredible Rakeback programme.

We are excited to finally be able to announce the launch of Crypto Poker Club going live from the 20th April 2018!

Our main aim is to empower poker players worldwide and provide a better online experience whilst making the game secure, fun and more profitable.

Please find a one page infographic summary below.

Currently, we are taking sign ups for early members and are rewarding you with a free 50% bonus on your first deposit. This is unlike other bonuses because these funds will be credited to you in advance instead of being released in small chunks like all other poker sites do.

Sign up with just an email and get yourself on the list.

Learn more here: https://cryptopokerclub.io

Our press release outlining more details of online poker problems we have fixed: https://medium.com/@CryptoPokerClub/c...owered-online-poker-game-117f2c29caeb

Let us know if you guys have any questions?

Looking forward to connecting with you guys.

All the best,
CPC

This sounds like a bunch of bullshit. Do you have any actual proof of major websites's RNG being shit? Cause everyone here has hundreds of thousands of hands and I'm pretty sure that they'll agree that you're just baiting.

Also withdraw fees from poker sites are non existent, I dont remember ever being charged one. Perhaps you're referring to fees coming from banks, which is something else. They are still 10x less than BTC withdrawal fees though.

Thats where I stopped reading. Also there're already other platforms which sound legit, unlike this. I get it could attract the common guy, but people that have actually spent years grinding would just laugh at the infomariton above.

wont play in any cryptopiker site if it was not provably fair.

I think you need to change your deceptive "problems" that are bullshit, it might attract casual players but you certainly took a hit on credibility on the more from the more knowledable players.

There has neve been evidence of RNG tampering in any poker site in history that I can remember
Sites charge fees on FOREX which is shitty already and affect many, but there isnt a direct withdrawal fee, so basically that makes you the WORST site on the market regarding that particular issue.
You mention bots, but you dont say how you are going to stop bots from playing on your site.


Also you should explain what do you mean with decentralized, do you mean the servers so you can't be shut down by local legislation against online poker? because I dont see how the fund managing is decentralized, it looks like we are going to deposit into BTC/ETH addresses and trust you with our money just like in any other regular site correct?

Also wtf is bestpoke security layers?



Leaving that aside, this is much better than CoinPoker which is pretty much a SCAM since you didnt make your own bullshit crypto-coin, and are using liquid coins like BTC and ETH but my main concern is what Jason Mo talked about in the podcast with Joeingram, Crypto is scary for your average Joe, so unless you buy/sell Bitcoin in your platform I think this is going to be a bigger reg-fest than Galfond's future site lol

I don't understand how a truly decentralized poker site would work. Who prevents multi accounting, collusion, botting, etc? If those are preventable then it's not decentralized. And if it's not decentralized, it's not a threat to overtake incumbent sites.

Also lol at the RNG graphic

Yeah no idea what they mean with decentralized, if its just to avoid being shut down in countries all you need is setting up your servers and HQ in haven countries with no extradition and use crypto as a withdrawal/deposit method and that is it, its probably what Ignition is doing.

el oh fking el

this thread should be deleted

pokerstars shines lasers at a mirror where do your random numbers come from?

only way they could make this awesome = Buy Bitcoin through there site with USD - then random fish can deposit and have it transfer from USD to BTC.

The only good thing I can think of right now about a possible crypto poker is that it will show the middle finger to governments as you will essentially be withdrawing cryptocurrency from your wallet, they can't track where you got the crypto from e.g. that you've played poker online. I'm guessing you still get to pay the same taxes as you normally would tho

The first crypto poker that would be viable would be created by someone with insane authority behind or if there is somehow a way to simply connect your wallet to the website and deposit/withdraw directly from there taxfree

crypto poker will be amazing once the biggest crypto sportsbetting sites are well in place and they branch out to poker. the casual fish we go after arent well versed in crypto yet, it will take some time. the first emergence of fish will be crypto sports betting coins/exchanges.

from what i can see, this probable scam attempt is merely a poker website that uses cryptos as currency instead of usd. "Next generation blockchain powered poker network launching April 20th 2018" is this serious? lol.

website was registered 2018-02-05. lol at this fucking scam why isnt this down yet

Thanks for the comments internet. Lets take each point one by point.

On March 23 2018 23:56 Spitfiree wrote: This sounds like a bunch of bullshit. Do you have any actual proof of major websites's RNG being shit? Cause everyone here has hundreds of thousands of hands and I'm pretty sure that they'll agree that you're just baiting. Also withdraw fees from poker sites are non existent, I dont remember ever being charged one. Perhaps you're referring to fees coming from banks, which is something else. They are still 10x less than BTC withdrawal fees though. Thats where I stopped reading. Also there're already other platforms which sound legit, unlike this. I get it could attract the common guy, but people that have actually spent years grinding would just laugh at the infomariton above.

So we are not the only ones to innovate in the RNG space.

You can have a look at our competitors: https://www.coinpoker.com or https://virtue.poker/

I know Virtue's founder and dev team as well. There are ways to improve RNG and yes this industry has not done anything about it for a long time.

As for the withdraw fees, yes some sites charge and the ones that don't you still get fees along the way. Also why ignore the fact of instant withdrawals and only focus on the negative?

wont play in any cryptopiker site if it was not provably fair.

Provably fair in poker is essentially improving the RNG factor. So yes we have that covered to make games fairer. Traditional provably fair algorithms do not work on Poker.

Also you should explain what do you mean with decentralized, do you mean the servers so you can't be shut down by local legislation against online poker? because I dont see how the fund managing is decentralized, it looks like we are going to deposit into BTC/ETH addresses and trust you with our money just like in any other regular site correct? Also wtf is bestpoke security layers?

Decentralized as in you as the client have processing qualities such as card shuffling and your own personal wallet. Also no need for a centralized verification process and sharing sensitive information.

Bespoke security layers we discuss in detail on our release here: https://medium.com/@CryptoPokerClub/c...owered-online-poker-game-117f2c29caeb

I don't understand how a truly decentralized poker site would work. Who prevents multi accounting, collusion, botting, etc? If those are preventable then it's not decentralized. And if it's not decentralized, it's not a threat to overtake incumbent sites.

Check out our reply above and our article in detail. We answer all these questions.

pokerstars shines lasers at a mirror where do your random numbers come from?

Do you mean our own RNG improvements? Our internal research which we will start releasing more and more as we finish our testing phase right now. Also video proof with case studies will happen.

The only good thing I can think of right now about a possible crypto poker is that it will show the middle finger to governments as you will essentially be withdrawing cryptocurrency from your wallet, they can't track where you got the crypto from e.g. that you've played poker online. I'm guessing you still get to pay the same taxes as you normally would tho

Absolutely agreed. We take security and privacy very seriously.

crypto poker will be amazing once the biggest crypto sportsbetting sites are well in place and they branch out to poker. the casual fish we go after arent well versed in crypto yet, it will take some time. the first emergence of fish will be crypto sports betting coins/exchanges. from what i can see, this probable scam attempt is merely a poker website that uses cryptos as currency instead of usd. "Next generation blockchain powered poker network launching April 20th 2018" is this serious? lol.

There are a few that do branch out. As for us being a scam, feel free to keep with our updates via social or our articles via medium. Time will show that this is a legitimate project and we did not invest a lot into building this for nothing.

As always, let us know if you have any questions guys. I understand its quite hard these days for a new project to actually not get hate from every corner and that is fine. I'm happy to respond to anyone because we truly believe we will be making a positive impact to the industry and unlocking something new.

Yeah truly decentralized poker, as in every poker action is being verified by the blockchain, let alone having algorithms to hunt bots and multiaccounters, just seems like pure sci-fi at this point given the computational cost.

On March 24 2018 20:03 NMcNasty wrote: Yeah truly decentralized poker, as in every poker action is being verified by the blockchain, let alone having algorithms to hunt bots and multiaccounters, just seems like pure sci-fi at this point given the computational cost.

Hey, not every single action needs to be verified and algorithms for anti-bots and multi-accounts have nothing to do with Blockchain. I think you are misunderstanding a few aspects of how it works. There are many decentralized aspects of our platform but not every move needs to be. As mentioned previously, we aren't the first to do this and even Phil Ivey is backing up another company who are focused on making the same through Ethereum. Its not science fiction.

Holy shit I'm reading that link you posted and I think you have a lot to explain:







From where did you get that 30%? and even if that number were true (its not) saying that 1 of every 3 bad beats might be due to faulty RNG is stupid and disingenuous, thats not how statistic work geniuses.











You cannot stop bots with that, bots can simply capture the screen and press buttons, its not just you, thats why they are a big issue, if you could just stop them with that ease it wouldn't be the biggest threat to online poker.













So which is it... free or 1% lol


Nobody cares about RNG, RNG has never been an issue for online poker, many sites banned HUDs but none can enforce it 100%, thats why the rest chose not to, also you cant stop bots that way, basically the only thing you offer is ownership of your own funds, which is a big deal, how does that specifically work?

I mean, if you gave us public keys like an exchange or a crypto wallet, it would be quite an improvement over a the current status-quo of sites approving or not your withdrawals, BUT that certainly does not protect us from a site-wide shutdown like the blackfriday scare you write in your page, we would simply get Mt.Gox'ed wouldn't we?

so if my opponents always get bad beats it would be bad for me to join your site right

WOW





OP have a look at this you really need it.

https://www.khanacademy.org/math/statistics-probability


LOL at thinking you can get rid of bots

Guys have a look at this


https://cryptopokerclub.io/news/block...logy-poker-game-integrity-update.html

If they want to get rid of bots they probably have to put east europe into a seperate network.

On March 25 2018 23:30 Syllogism wrote: Guys have a look at this https://cryptopokerclub.io/news/block...logy-poker-game-integrity-update.html

This is so fucking cringeworthy... And I try not to swear too much on the interwebs lol

I don't know if they realize that no matter how many layers they add, the difference is most likely going to be non-existent, let alone "33% less setups" or as they call them "Bad beats" :D

At first I thought, damn that idea is actually pretty cool, then rationality striked in .... and NO.

I mean fuck PokerStars for so many different reasons and fuck 99% of the current websites, but this doesn't really strike me as anything even worth looking at.


edit:
So in one post it says 30% and in another 1/3rd ... I dont know if they realize how big of a deal 3% mean in anything related to game of chances, even if its the related to the "RNG" in this case

This project raises so many red flags.

Hello internet family,

I'm back for more explaining as I see a lot of concerns here. I will go one by one:

From where did you get that 30%? and even if that number were true (its not) saying that 1 of every 3 bad beats might be due to faulty RNG is stupid and disingenuous, thats not how statistic work geniuses.

We tested over 1000 hands several times in a row and found UP TO 1/3 reduction in badbeats. Sometimes tests came up 10%, other times below 5 and a few times up to 30% but in all our tests, it was indeed more random than traditional games such as Pokerstars (our baseline test subject). Also we said 'LIKELY' not 'CERTAIN'. This is still an unexplored area and we are still working on it with a video case study coming soon after we launch.

You cannot stop bots with that, bots can simply capture the screen and press buttons, its not just you, thats why they are a big issue, if you could just stop them with that ease it wouldn't be the biggest threat to online poker.

I wont reveal the exact mechanism for our technology for obvious reasons but part of our validation checks is to check 'hot spots' and mouse movements of the clients computer. It doesn't matter if you cannot stop a bot simply pressing buttons, you cant simulate the bot to move the mouse (path) in a specific way or clicks with the actual pointers.

So which is it... free or 1% lol

We recently changed this to free. Refer to our website for the latest updated information or speak to our team for further clarifications.

so if my opponents always get bad beats it would be bad for me to join your site right

This doesn't make any sense. Which opponents and which platforms are you talking about? If you are referring to our refined RNG technology, all we are saying is we are trying to improve it as much as possible and have seen signs that it really did show more random results but it vary's. Either way the better question for you is why are you focusing on one point when there is so much more to assess? Why go straight to hate instead of actually learning something new, doing some research into others that are also trying to do the same and having a more open mind?

If they want to get rid of bots they probably have to put east europe into a separate network.

Refer to our answer above. There are ways to stop or at least become more secure. What we did is completely unknown to anyone and have added further layers of security. Pokerstars for example can do more about it but it would cost them a lot to do so and since they are so large, network infrastructure updates will take a long time and again be expensive. Don't be a defeatist. There are always ways, So in your rationale, it is absolutely impossible to stop bottling on poker forever? Are you seriously suggesting that? I'm not saying it is theoretically impossible for a group to develop a specialized bot if they had enough information about us. What I'm saying is they do not have that information and we have taken a great deal of effort to prevent bots. Our game will be more secure than traditional poker rooms and that is a fact. Again something we tested and proven but unlike the card shuffling which we will make a case study on - this we cannot publically show. If you truly doubt it so much, join the game and after we launch just spectate and see for yourself. Or better yet - if you are a engineer or know a group, feel free to ask them to test our system and see if they can get their bots to work.

I don't know if they realize that no matter how many layers they add, the difference is most likely going to be non-existent, let alone "33% less setups" or as they call them "Bad beats" :D At first I thought, damn that idea is actually pretty cool, then rationality striked in .... and NO. I mean fuck PokerStars for so many different reasons and fuck 99% of the current websites, but this doesn't really strike me as anything even worth looking at. edit: So in one post it says 30% and in another 1/3rd ... I dont know if they realize how big of a deal 3% mean in anything related to game of chances, even if its the related to the "RNG" in this case This project raises so many red flags.

Again regarding the RNG, refer to my previous reply. Also i'm quite interested to know - out of the 100+ different variables here that you could have assessed, you pick out only one and say "they are bad, this is a scam, not worth it". Is that a genuine or fair assessment? How about the fact that we are offering more rakeback than any other traditional poker room out there? Rake as well is lower? Or huge bonuses paid out in full instead of parts? Or the new refined graphics? Or the fact that our withdrawals are instant and cost fee instead of waiting days/weeks at times on other rooms?



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We tested over 1000 hands

stopped reading there

you're literally a 2/3 live fish

why is this scam not deleted? i dont get it

On March 29 2018 10:53 cryptopoker_cl wrote: We tested over 1000 hands

Please leave. Can a mod just ban the acc and delete the thread? This is a joke a 12yo kid can probably write an algorithm testing hundreds of millions of hands in a few minutes. In your case you'd just have to do it using your RNG lmao

On March 29 2018 10:53 cryptopoker_cl wrote: Hello internet family,

how quaint

On March 29 2018 10:53 cryptopoker_cl wrote: Show nested quote + so if my opponents always get bad beats it would be bad for me to join your site right This doesn't make any sense. Which opponents and which platforms are you talking about? If you are referring to our refined RNG technology, all we are saying is we are trying to improve it as much as possible and have seen signs that it really did show more random results but it vary's. Either way the better question for you is why are you focusing on one point when there is so much more to assess? Why go straight to hate instead of actually learning something new, doing some research into others that are also trying to do the same and having a more open mind?

what do you mean it doesn't make sense? you claimed (or rather the infographic you sourced to freelancer.com claimed) that established platforms are rigged. those platforms. i'm talking about the ones you're talking about, that you claim increase rakeback instead of investing in RNG, you brought this up

you say other platforms are rigged and people are having bad beats. if you have a bad beat then villain sucked out. one person running bad is someone else running good. so what if those platforms are rigged in your favor? why would someone switch to your most reputable and fair site instead then?

how much money do you get per open minded person?

also how did you get established platforms to share their stats with you for comparison? and shouldn't you use your insights to bring a lawsuit against the people who certify the randomness of those platforms or do you think trying to scam forums you found from google would be more profitable

punt