Is the physician right?

You all are making up that he somehow was thinking of not helping out because there was no payoff, which is an (bad) assumption.

The issue is that money shouldn't enter his mind at all, whether it's the cost to the airline or himself. It's about the ethical principles as part of his profession and physicians aren't poor. By arguing that the airline saved money, he's saying that by him being there, he was the most economical option for them. In other words, he's saying he deserves to be paid something because surely he's worth more than nothing as he did them a service/favour. Not only that he deserves to be paid but that there was an unspoken agreement formed between the airline and himself on the spot where he would be paid. He's trying to use an economically leveraged argument that threatens another passengers life which is totally immoral, especially for a physician! It's not a favour, they have no relationship with him and he should be absolutely ashamed of behaving like this.

By asking that he be paid and pressing it through publicly sharing the fact he wasn't, his intention is to defame the name of the airline to create pressure to receive something. None of this does any good for anyone and I'd argue that it has the potential to significantly hurt himself over chump change through damage to his reputation. And imo, it should hurt him. So yeah, he's a total fuckin' cunt.

Doctor does right thing which happens to be a huge help to airline. If airline gave him nothing -- they really should have paid for his flight or given him a free future flight -- then I see no problem with asking for some form of payment after the fact. I will almost always side with the individual over a large business being nitty in situations like this. If he asked the passenger for payment....that would be another story.

If the Airline compensates him, it's good and classy. But if they don't, I don't think it's something to be upset about and making a scene in for. I hate to quantify everything to a monetary value, it's dehumanizing and really don't help towards making a better future.

I think he shouldn't ask for money or any compensation. If you have the skillset to save somebody's life and nobody else around does, then you save the person's life. I also think the airline could have just offered him some small compensation as a thank you and it'd make them look much better. But I dunno how much the guy asked for. Maybe granting him anything would be regarded as admission that they owe him something and he wanted x percentage of how much money they saved from not having to land - which I find really unreasonable.

I do not think the doctor should even have to ask about compensation, the business should have ask what he would like as a gift for saving them money.

The doctor is a greedy fuck. You went into a profession to help save lives. This air passenger didnt try to have a heart attack. You going to sit there and watch him/her die? Its a clear moral obligation to assist. Demanding financial compensation in an emergency and unexpected situation on a plane is a dick move. Bunch of greedy fucks these days living their lives with no morals on how to be a good human being.

Now im no doctor but if someone was in an emergency and i could help with my skillset its a no brainer. Its not about money, its about maintaining morality.

um, probably varies alot from country to country but at least in the us, don't doctors have to deal with substantial insurance costs?? (at least i think??), not sure how it works in this case/country, or what the liability would be if the doctor f** up somehow in helping the person and got sued. not sure why no one is mentioning this. can't expect the doctor to get sued/have his premiums go way up without compensation. again, im not entirely sure how it works in detail, maybe if someone is in the field they can elaborate.

also i generally dislike those in the medical industry (in america). im not sure what it is exactly either, they are just very cunt-like to me. maybe i am just jealous, haha.

The thing is, ofc its a no brainer to save a life, he did.
To the airline it should be a no brainer to award the guy.....

You are calling this guy a cunt, yet he saved a life?

the post says he is waiting for the air company to "pay for his service" he didnt say something like they didnt give him any complementary thing token of the apreciation, it says payment.

and no he didnt even save a life, a passenger had symptoms and yes, you can save a life and still be a cunt.

any waiter who expects a tip is a POS they took an oath to serve food

could just be me but it feels very wrong to expect payment in this exact situation

On November 09 2017 04:43 Baalim wrote: the physician is not only wrong, but also a cunt

On November 10 2017 13:09 Santafairy wrote: any waiter who expects a tip is a POS they took an oath to serve food

if there is a prize for the most stupid strawman argument ever made you just won it

Agree with everything baal said. Doctor is delusion if he thinks a flight attendant asking for a doctor on board enters him into a contract with the airline for his services. He probably knows he has no legal grounds to stand on which is why he's going through social media to wring a few bucks out of the airline. Airline should have been nice and given him a free flight voucher or something for his trouble but I don't think they are obligated to do that.

Also let's not pretend like the selfish cunt wanted to be part of an emergency landing any more than the airline. He was already compensated by not having to land in some shit city and spend the night in some shit hotel while he waits to catch a flight the next day to his actual destination. That's your compensation.

On November 09 2017 04:43 Baalim wrote: the physician is not only wrong, but also a cunt

also air company not doing jack shit for the doctor that saved a life on their plane is prob in the wrong in some way.

Long story short they are both wrong bitches.

On November 10 2017 01:53 K40Cheddar wrote: The doctor is a greedy fuck. You went into a profession to help save lives. This air passenger didnt try to have a heart attack. You going to sit there and watch him/her die? Its a clear moral obligation to assist. Demanding financial compensation in an emergency and unexpected situation on a plane is a dick move. Bunch of greedy fucks these days living their lives with no morals on how to be a good human being.

Tons of doctors did not go into their profession to save lives. Some, just like many others, just fell into because they thought they'd be good at it and there was nothing else pulling them in an urgent direction. Others went into it purely for money. In fact, more often than not these days, I leave a doctor's office with the distinct feeling that they were almost as much of a business person instead of just purely being a doctor. It's a shitty state of affairs. Both individually if you're unlucky or haven't done enough research and also just from a general moral standpoint. But unfortunately skewing heavily towards regularity in certain areas in today's world.

In this case, I'm of the opinion that both are being stupid. If the airline really didn't offer any compensation at least in the form of vouchers or what not, which is obviously incredibly easy for any airline to do, they're being shitty and really stupid for turning down a bit of advertising/good will and risking a customer relations problem. However, if the doctor is asking for cash payment for his 'service' after the fact, giving in in that way would set a pretty bad and easily abused precedent. The doctor is being a bit petty but he would just be the tip of the iceberg

On November 10 2017 08:34 Otto Marwin wrote: The thing is, ofc its a no brainer to save a life, he did. To the airline it should be a no brainer to award the guy..... You are calling this guy a cunt, yet he saved a life?

I kinda agree with this post, but at the same time its a tough question.

If some dude has a hearth attack on the street, of course a doctor is gonna save him, and i doubt he will ask for money.
If the same scenario happens in a bus, is the doctor gonna charge the bus company? What about in a restaurant? Seems to be in most scenario the answer is no.

At the same time, i feel like the company should at least give the dude some sort of compensation. If any other sort of problem happened in the plane and some client helped fix it, i doubt they wouldn't compensate him.