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hiems   United States. Oct 16 2017 02:19. Posts 2979

Winner of 2017-18 NBA Championship?
Atlanta Hawks
+126425
Boston Celtics
+1175
Brooklyn Nets
+252816
Charlotte Hornets
+50583
Chicago Bulls
+189613
Cleveland Cavaliers
+444
Dallas Mavericks
+50583
Denver Nuggets
+18986
Detroit Pistons
+63225
Golden State Warriors
-195
Houston Rockets
+1409
Indiana Pacers
+126425
Los Angeles Clippers
+18986
Los Angeles Lakers
+27978
Memphis Grizzlies
+44266
Miami Heat
+18986
Milwaukee Bucks
+8365
Minnesota Timberwolves
+4155
New Orleans Pelicans
+22144
New York Knicks
+94826
Oklahoma City Thunder
+1881
Orlando Magic
+189613
Philadelphia 76ers
+18986
Phoenix Suns
+126425
Portland Blazers
+31623
Sacramento Kings
+126425
San Antonio Spurs
+1561
Toronto Raptors
+15829
Utah Jazz
+25305
Washington Wizards
+9504

Atlanta Hawks Regular Season Wins?
Over25.5 Regular Season Wins
-123
Under25.5 Regular Season Wins
+105

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Winner of NBA Eastern Conference 2017-18?
Atlanta Hawks
+12864
Boston Celtics
+228
Brooklyn Nets
+29967
Charlotte Hornets
+6490
Chicago Bulls
+21860
Cleveland Cavaliers
-166
Detroit Pistons
+9382
Indiana Pacers
+18739
Miami Heat
+3641
Milwaukee Bucks
+1584
New York Knicks
+14239
Orlando Magic
+21860
Philadelphia 76ers
+3771
Toronto Raptors
+3146
Washington Wizards
+2206

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Boston Celtics Regular Season Wins?
Over55.5 Regular Season Wins
+127
Under55.5 Regular Season Wins
-149

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Brooklyn Nets Regular Season Wins?
Over27.5 Regular Season Wins
-105
Under27.5 Regular Season Wins
-111

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Charlotte Hornets Regular Season Wins?
Over42.5 Regular Season Wins
-101
Under42.5 Regular Season Wins
-116

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Chicago Bulls Regular Season Wins?
Over21.5 Regular Season Wins
-158
Under21.5 Regular Season Wins
+135

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Cleveland Cavaliers Regular Season Wins?
Over53.5 Regular Season Wins
-139
Under53.5 Regular Season Wins
+119

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Dallas Mavericks Regular Season Wins?
Over35.5 Regular Season Wins
+119
Under35.5 Regular Season Wins
-139

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Denver Nuggets Regular Season Wins?
Over45.5 Regular Season Wins
-101
Under45.5 Regular Season Wins
-115

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Detroit Pistons Regular Season Wins?
Over38.5 Regular Season Wins
-115
Under38.5 Regular Season Wins
-101

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Golden State Warriors Regular Season Wins?
Over67.5 Regular Season Wins
-118
Under67.5 Regular Season Wins
+101

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Houston Rockets Regular Season Wins?
Over55.5 Regular Season Wins
-110
Under55.5 Regular Season Wins
-106

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Indiana Pacers Regular Season Wins?
Over31.5 Regular Season Wins
-117
Under31.5 Regular Season Wins
+100

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Los Angeles Clippers Regular Season Wins?
Over43.5 Regular Season Wins
-151
Under43.5 Regular Season Wins
+129

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Los Angeles Lakers Regular Season Wins?
Over33.5 Regular Season Wins
+108
Under33.5 Regular Season Wins
-126

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Memphis Grizzlies Regular Season Wins?
Over37.5 Regular Season Wins
-116
Under37.5 Regular Season Wins
-101

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Miami Heat Regular Season Wins?
Over43.5 Regular Season Wins
-116
Under43.5 Regular Season Wins
-101

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Milwaukee Bucks Regular Season Wins?
Over47.5 Regular Season Wins
+136
Under47.5 Regular Season Wins
-160

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Minnesota Timberwolves Regular Season Wins?
Over48.5 Regular Season Wins
+112
Under48.5 Regular Season Wins
-131

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New Orleans Pelicans Regular Season Wins?
Over39.5 Regular Season Wins
-118
Under39.5 Regular Season Wins
+101

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New York Knicks Regular Season Wins?
Over30.5 Regular Season Wins
+113
Under30.5 Regular Season Wins
-132

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Oklahoma City Thunder Regular Season Wins?
Over50.5 Regular Season Wins
-240
Under50.5 Regular Season Wins
+201

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Orlando Magic Regular Season Wins?
Over33.5 Regular Season Wins
+100
Under33.5 Regular Season Wins
-117

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Philadelphia 76ers Regular Season Wins?
Over39.5 Regular Season Wins
+105
Under39.5 Regular Season Wins
-123

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Phoenix Suns Regular Season Wins?
Over28.5 Regular Season Wins
-113
Under28.5 Regular Season Wins
-103

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Portland Blazers Regular Season Wins?
Over42.5 Regular Season Wins
-126
Under42.5 Regular Season Wins
+108

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Sacramento Kings Regular Season Wins?
Over27.5 Regular Season Wins
-129
Under27.5 Regular Season Wins
+110

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Toronto Raptors Regular Season Wins?
Over48.5 Regular Season Wins
+121
Under48.5 Regular Season Wins
-142

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Utah Jazz Regular Season Wins?
Over40.5 Regular Season Wins
+103
Under40.5 Regular Season Wins
-120

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Washington Wizards Regular Season Wins?
Over47.5 Regular Season Wins
-150
Under47.5 Regular Season Wins
+128

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Winner of NBA Western Conference 2017-18?
Dallas Mavericks
+15028
Denver Nuggets
+9017
Golden State Warriors
-347
Houston Rockets
+802
Los Angeles Clippers
+6011
Los Angeles Lakers
+11521
Memphis Grizzlies
+15028
Minnesota Timberwolves
+2505
New Orleans Pelicans
+9518
Oklahoma City Thunder
+1000
Phoenix Suns
+42578
Portland Blazers
+11521
Sacramento Kings
+42578
San Antonio Spurs
+902
Utah Jazz
+10018

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NBA Rookie of the Year 2017-18?
Lonzo Ball
+295
Ben Simmons
+194
Dennis Smith Jr
+494
Markelle Fultz
+2461
DeAaron Fox
+1212
Donovan Mitchell
+1632
Jayson Tatum
+1412
Jonathan Isaac
+3926
Malik Monk
+3141
Bam Adebayo
+3573
Frank Ntilikina
+6089
Lauri Markkanen
+1092
Zack Collins
+6296
Luke Kennard
+5279
Derrick White
+7904
Terrence Ferguson
+6487
Josh Jackson
+1166
TJ Leaf
+6592
Justin Jackson
+4402
Field
+980

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I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img]Last edit: 16/10/2017 02:43

hiems   United States. Oct 16 2017 02:21. Posts 2979

haha not sure how much interest there is in this, season begins in a couple of days.

also put 1500 on fanduel and draftkings, will be playing mostly free entries and $1 for small volume and try and learn a little bit/get better with sports.

I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img]Last edit: 16/10/2017 02:44

PuertoRican   United States. Oct 16 2017 04:53. Posts 13030


  On October 16 2017 01:21 hiems wrote:
haha not sure how much interest there is in this, season begins in a couple of days.

also put 1500 on fanduel and draftkings, will be playing mostly free entries and $1 for small volume and try and learn a little bit/get better with sports.


I already reserved a $3 entry for Tuesday's event.

I'm focused on MMA and NFL, so I won't be able to go balls deep with NBA until NFL is over, but I'll follow it enough to enter a few lineups when I can. It's difficult to keep up with NBA fantasy though, since there's a new event every night, unlike MMA and NFL.

Rekrul is a newb 

hiems   United States. Oct 16 2017 09:44. Posts 2979

Hm yea.

I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img] 

bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Oct 16 2017 20:52. Posts 8646

Nothing in the title odds looks like value to me, wish I could take the other side on some of them though.

Didn't look through all the over/unders but I like Utah o40.5 (+103).

No clue on RotY. I think Simmons wins but odds reflect that. Not betting anything though because f tying up money for a full NBA season. No MVP odds?

Truck-Crash LifeLast edit: 16/10/2017 20:53

hiems   United States. Oct 16 2017 21:31. Posts 2979

Dunno, pretty sure I didn't miss anything when I copied it (from pinnacle)

Interesting pick. Fwiw nate silver has utah at 46.

I find few teams interesting but my opinion not worthwhile right now so not going to comment haha.

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hiems   United States. Oct 16 2017 21:39. Posts 2979

Lineup I made for free entry on FD: Kyrie + Steph at PG, Wade/Thompson at SG, Iguodala/Ryan Anderson at SF, Jae Crowder PF, Clint Capela at C.

I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img] 

PuertoRican   United States. Oct 16 2017 22:54. Posts 13030

Who are some good players to pick under $5000 for Tuesday's slate?

At the moment I have Marcus Smart $4800 and Nick Young $3200.

Draymond Green still has a Questionable tag, so I'll keep an eye out on him. I'm sure he'll play even if he isn't 100%, but he might not play as good, and he might not put in a full 30+ minutes if he isn't feeling well.

Rekrul is a newb 

hiems   United States. Oct 16 2017 23:34. Posts 2979

Well i'm just clicking buttons right now. i imagine ill get better with more experience.

I figure Crowder was so pissed (he was really pissed) that Boston traded him that he'll try pretty hard, haha. kind of similar logic in playing Kyrie.

Capela is decently cheap, not under $5,000 but reports are that he is having a very productive preseason and hopefully Cp3 makes him better like the rest of the clippers. that's my logic at least. im not sure about my ryan andreson play.

Jayson Tatum is supposed to be starting and he's really cheap, but i don't know i have trouble seeing him putting up good numbers. i guess watch out for Kevin Love being game time decision, might mean cheap minutes for whoever gets his minutes.

edit: nvm about love haha

i thought Zaza was a decent low variance play. i mean the guy is a good fit for that team and he'll get his minutes and he is cheap. gsw/rockets should be a fast paced game right? fast pace--> more possessions.

yea nick young seems like an interesting play. i have iguodala on right now and he is a gtd, apparently so is livingston. if they both sit, i really like that nick young play.

I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img]Last edit: 17/10/2017 01:10

PuertoRican   United States. Oct 17 2017 20:38. Posts 13030

Help me make sense of this. I assume Wade gets more minutes and is in the better spot, but it's kind of confusing. I'm just trying to figure out if I should play Wade or Rose tonight. Wade is $5200, and Rose is $5000:

Notes from Wade's profile: Wade will open the season as the Cavaliers' starting shooting guard, Joe Vardon of Cleveland.com reports. Coach Tyronn Lue was considering bringing Wade off the bench as the lead ball-handler with the second unit, but will instead sub Derrick Rose out early in the first quarter and then run him with the second unit. That means Wade will see plenty of time as the top facilitator with the starters when Rose heads to the bench, which is certainly beneficial for his overall fantasy value. Wade could still have a tough time matching his 2016-17 averages of 18.3 points, 4.5 rebounds, 3.8 assists and 1.4 steals across 29.9 minutes due to the increase in talent around him. J.R. Smith will come off the bench to start the year in the corresponding move.

Notes from Rose's profile: Look for Rose to start at point guard to the begin season, though he'll likely get an early hook in the first quarter, as coach Tyronn Lue hopes to have Rose come back in and run the second unit when the other starters come out later in the first quarter. (Rose is starting since Thomas is out till January with an injury)

I might pick Rose, just so I can fit Clint Capela in my team. I'm $100 short if I use Wade.

Rekrul is a newbLast edit: 17/10/2017 20:41

hiems   United States. Oct 18 2017 00:02. Posts 2979

Wade in a vacuum after price adjustments imo. Busy atm

I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img] 

PuertoRican   United States. Oct 18 2017 00:43. Posts 13030

I made 2 teams in the regular event, and 1 Pick'Em team:

K. Irving
K. Thompson
G. Hayward
K. Love
A. Horford
D. Rose
J. Crowder
C. Capela


K. Irving
K. Thompson
G. Hayward
L. James
A. Horford
D. Rose
J. Crowder
N. Young


T1 L. James
T2 K. Irving
T3 K. Thompson
T4 C. Capela
T5 M. Smart
T6 J. Tatum
T7 N. Young
T8 J. Green

Rekrul is a newb 

PuertoRican   United States. Oct 18 2017 01:25. Posts 13030

Gordon Hayward suffered a major leg injury in the first quarter...

What a joke.

I don't even need to watch any of the games tonight, as my DraftKings teams are dead.

Rekrul is a newb 

ERASA   Germany. Oct 18 2017 01:26. Posts 2440

Hayward =(


PuertoRican   United States. Oct 18 2017 01:30. Posts 13030

Rekrul is a newb 

hiems   United States. Oct 18 2017 02:47. Posts 2979

wow. I had him too but still live on some.

I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img] 

hiems   United States. Oct 18 2017 02:55. Posts 2979

lol fuck this shit is too hard.

I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img]Last edit: 18/10/2017 03:19

PuertoRican   United States. Oct 18 2017 03:23. Posts 13030

LMAO...

I go to do some homework and notice BOS/CLE are in overtime... CLE must've sat their A-Team in the 3rd quarter and paid for it.

Rekrul is a newb 

ERASA   Germany. Oct 18 2017 03:34. Posts 2440

No overtime, just got close at the end


PuertoRican   United States. Oct 18 2017 06:35. Posts 13030

The last 6 minutes of the GSW/HOU game was too much for my 2 teams to cash. If Gordon Hayward never left the game, I would've easily cashed with both my teams.

As for the Pick'Em team, I got 90th place for $4, so I only lost -$3 at the end of the night.

The guy who won the big $3 tournament tonight picked a few guys who were in the $3000 range who scored big, which means he knew what he was doing + got lucky -- this meant he was able to get a several massive favorites who ended up scoring big as well. I'm not into NBA enough to know who those 2-3 guys are who he picked, so I had no chance to get 1st.

I'll have 1 team tomorrow in the big $4 event. I made it right now, but won't have time to research tomorrow since I'll be at work and school.

----------

Actually, they adjusted the scores and I finished 31st in the Pick'Em event for $6. So I only lost -$1 today.

lmao...

Rekrul is a newbLast edit: 18/10/2017 08:38

Dinewbie   United States. Oct 18 2017 20:46. Posts 58

fwiw, futures are never good value at start of season or end of season, if you want a team, you want to wait for them to underperform and have their value drop and then scoop the equity when the competition/market aren't believing in them.... Try looking at lines again in a few months

Btw I am Fujikura 

bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Oct 18 2017 23:43. Posts 8646


  On October 18 2017 19:46 Dinewbie wrote:
fwiw, futures are never good value at start of season or end of season, if you want a team, you want to wait for them to underperform and have their value drop and then scoop the equity when the competition/market aren't believing in them.... Try looking at lines again in a few months



Without seeing any empirical evidence I have to doubt this. Well, the end of season part makes sense because that's when the most information is available and it's less likely there's anything the books failed to account for, and most of the wins/losses are already completed.

But saying that mid-season is better value than early season because teams over/underperform is basically saying "Buy low, sell high, easy game". If anything, the lines should be sharper mid-season because there's way better information for the books to base their lines off of. It's difficult to model things like synergy between two players who haven't played together before (e.g. Harden/Paul), this is where someone who follows the game very closely can possibly have an edge early on. But after a bunch of games have been played, books have plenty of data with them together to make a sharp line. It's not like books change their projections because a team makes a normal positive or negative deviation in their quality of play.

Real reason not to bet early season futures is because of low limits and the time value of money (and the reason to bet them is for a fun sweat).

Truck-Crash LifeLast edit: 18/10/2017 23:50

PuertoRican   United States. Oct 19 2017 01:44. Posts 13030

wtf... Joel Embiid is only supposed to play for 16 minutes tonight, which means Okafor is supposed to get hella minutes, yet Okafor hasn't played yet and we're halfway through the game...

Okafor supposedly wasn't feeling well the other day, but was supposed to play today.

Rekrul is a newb 

PuertoRican   United States. Oct 19 2017 20:30. Posts 13030

I'm taking today (Thursday) off from NBA. Day 1 and Day 2 sucked, as one guy (Gordon Hayward) broke his ankle 6 minutes into the game, and the other guy (Okafor) who was supposed to get a lot of minutes didn't end up playing in the game even though there wasn't any news prior to the game that he wouldn't be playing.

Today is Thursday night football, so I'm focused on that. I'll probably play some NBA on Saturday, but skip it on Sunday since Sunday is meant for NFL.

We also have an early UFC card on Saturday that starts at 8:30pm PST / 11:30am EST.

Rekrul is a newb 

ERASA   Germany. Oct 20 2017 01:00. Posts 2440

I hope Melo drops 50 on the Knicks


hiems   United States. Oct 20 2017 05:17. Posts 2979

I played the opener for fun/learn, but clearly had no idea what i was doing. Also with my schedule I have 0 time to make changes in the 2 hours or so before tipoff or whatever. My line ups were garbage and very fish-like. I probably could get a little better if I invest some time in the season and do some research, but it's simply not the time for that right now.

Anyway wanted to share LP's very own daut44's dfs articles on steemit. They are very good yall should check it out. I'll try to post updates on here for you guys to see.

https://steemit.com/sports/@daut44/nba-dfs-10-17-lineups-results
https://steemit.com/sports/@daut44/nba-dfs-10-18-lineups-results

I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img] 

bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Oct 20 2017 05:20. Posts 8646

Ingram has been so disappointing, Ball too but it's his first NBA game and Beverley is an animal on D so cutting him some slack. Clippers look like a fun team this year. Wasn't able to watch Knicks/Thunder but I see Melo has 0 +/- when his team wins by 21, standard

Truck-Crash Life 

bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Oct 20 2017 05:39. Posts 8646


  On October 20 2017 04:17 hiems wrote:
Also with my schedule I have 0 time to make changes in the 2 hours or so before tipoff or whatever.



Hate to say it but you are drawing dead long-term doing this, you have to pretty much be glued to Twitter for injury updates during the hour or so leading up to the game, and have a pivot chart (or equivalent) ready for making substitutions. It's part of the reason I'm not playing this season even though I kind of miss it, I just don't have the time.

Truck-Crash Life 

hiems   United States. Oct 20 2017 05:39. Posts 2979

^ was never big on Ingram. I was really surprised when apparently he was being hyped (I guess by Magic) to be a big part of the future of the organization. Just seemed kind of bizarre to me.

I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img] 

hiems   United States. Oct 31 2017 01:17. Posts 2979

cool article on bloomberg how big firms are moving to sports market more and more.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...rading-firm-s-way-to-beat-market-odds

also referenced in the article is this gem :
https://www.raiseyourgame.com/

really cool blog from SIG (where the guys from mathematics of poker work). apparently Jens Kyllönen has transitioned into an entry level trading position with them.

I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img]Last edit: 31/10/2017 08:16

hiems   United States. Oct 31 2017 01:28. Posts 2979


  On October 20 2017 04:39 bigredhoss wrote:
Show nested quote +



Hate to say it but you are drawing dead long-term doing this, you have to pretty much be glued to Twitter for injury updates during the hour or so leading up to the game, and have a pivot chart (or equivalent) ready for making substitutions. It's part of the reason I'm not playing this season even though I kind of miss it, I just don't have the time.


yeah i know that's why I'm not playing at all, haha. I made a few entries first game of season because I was pretty pumped for nba or whatever, but haven't done any since then. not to mention even if I had time I am a huge fish at the moment. I did it mostly for learning fwiw.

I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img] 

Ryan Neilly   United States. Oct 31 2017 08:31. Posts 1631

NBA is by far the easiest to win $ on, follow projections, stack 2 9-12k players (Cousins is sick for 70 / Antepuloko etc)
Also, a good strategy when 3-6 games is to just pick the highest scoring game and smash it. A lot of firsts happen this way.

play vs teams that turn the ball over a lot in guard "golden state, chicago bulls"
steals are worth 3.

theres alot of great ins and outs

my lineups are usually curry clay durant and a bunch of 4-6k guys. Trust Gorat at center in a lot of games if you need a cheapish center.

 Last edit: 31/10/2017 08:33

Ryan Neilly   United States. Oct 31 2017 08:32. Posts 1631

Keep your eye on the injuries, thats where you get ur value for stars, GL.


Ryan Neilly   United States. Oct 31 2017 08:34. Posts 1631

Detroit and Orlando have some great value guards, don't forget Otto Porter PF @Wizards, Cousins overpriced but OK for 3 night games, Lebrons not at full health

I really like Simmons for 4k on DK, hes getting hotter and hotter. THink he went off for 50 fpg 2 nights ago for me

its really easy to get ITM in NBA, going for first is another thing. I prefer the late night 3 games, its wayyy easier if your GPPing.

Stacking OKC, Wizards, Houston and Golden State games is usually a win. Careful with GS though, so many turnovers kills your bottom line. I prefer Golden state only when they need to post a ton (live vs washinton) - altho sit Curry there, as Washington has some elite guards!

 Last edit: 31/10/2017 08:39

hiems   United States. Nov 16 2017 22:24. Posts 2979

Thu 16/11 Basketball NBA Odds
17.05
Golden State Warriors
1.322
-7.5

Boston Celtics
3.730
+7.5

should be fun one.

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K40Cheddar   United States. Nov 17 2017 03:08. Posts 2202

Easy ass alternative line bet of +15.5 celtics -325

GG 

bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Nov 18 2017 05:43. Posts 8646


  On October 16 2017 19:52 bigredhoss wrote:
Didn't look through all the over/unders but I like Utah o40.5 (+103).



Looking pretty ugly now with Gobert missing 4-6 weeks t.t

Truck-Crash Life 

 



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