- Abel Trujillo was expected to face Lando Vannata at the event. However, Trujillo was removed from the card on August 14 for undisclosed reasons and was replaced by Bobby Green on August 14.
- A women's flyweight bout between promotional newcomers Andrea Lee and Kalindra Faria was expected to be a late addition to this event, as it was announced on September 28. However a few hours later, it was revealed that Lee was pulled from the contest as she didn't go through the USADA testing pool for six months. Usually short notice fights do not need to follow such rule, but since she has failed a drug test in the past, Lee must fulfill that requirement. She was replaced by fellow promotional newcomer Mara Romero Borella on October 2.
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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 01 2017 01:52. Posts 13030
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First impression of the match-ups:
• Ferguson > Lee
• Johnson > Borg
• Lewis > Werdum
• Dariush vs. Dunham (dunno)
• Stamann > Duquesnoy
• Lentz > Brooks
• Green vs. Vannata (dunno)
• Gonzalez vs. Botelho (dunno)
• Harris > Godbeer
• Bibulatov > Moraga
• Leites > Tavares
• Beltran > Schnell
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Nazgul   Netherlands. Oct 01 2017 15:55. Posts 7080
Plenty to like here!
Dariush vs. Dunham in particular is fun.
DJ is at -1250 now. PR do you know what the title fights with steepest odds historically are?
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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 01 2017 22:26. Posts 13030
On October 01 2017 14:55 Nazgul wrote:
Plenty to like here!
Dariush vs. Dunham in particular is fun.
DJ is at -1250 now. PR do you know what the title fights with steepest odds historically are?
DJ closed at -2000 against Chris Cariaso, but the comeback was only +582.
Ronda closed at -1975 against Bethe Correia, and the comeback was +680.
Bellator has had favorites close at over -2000 before, but I don't think they were title fights.
My favorite UFC 216 fights on paper are:
Green vs. Vannata
Duquesnoy vs. Stamann
Dariush vs. Dunham
Ferguson vs. Lee
For a PPV, this is a pretty fun card. You also gotta remember that there are no big UFC stars anymore due to retirement, suspended for PEDs, or just inactive.
The only big star left is Conor, and he won't fight again until 2018, unless the UFC pays him a ton of money to headline the UFC 219 card on December 30 in Las Vegas. No other fight before that makes sense, as the other PPVs are booked except for the PPV in Michigan, and no way will Conor fight in Michigan.
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Floofy   Canada. Oct 02 2017 06:58. Posts 8708
Well i think the ufc 217 main is pretty damn exciting. And that card overall is really solid.
The 216 one is a bit weak for a PPV imo. I mean, there are some interesting fights but its no where near as good as 217. I'm curious to see how Duquesnoy does, he seemed realllly promising.
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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 03 2017 06:02. Posts 13030
New Bout added : Mara Romero Borella vs Kalindra Faria for UFC 216
Borella steps in on short notice for Andrea Lee
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[GiTM]-Ace   United States. Oct 03 2017 12:45. Posts 1585
The only big star left is Conor, and he won't fight again until 2018, unless the UFC pays him a ton of money to headline the UFC 219 card on December 30 in Las Vegas. No other fight before that makes sense, as the other PPVs are booked except for the PPV in Michigan, and no way will Conor fight in Michigan.
Nazgul   Netherlands. Oct 03 2017 16:33. Posts 7080
On October 03 2017 12:40 alejandicto wrote:
Dj vs Borg not in the poster lol
That's harsh. It's a historic record fight. Besides obviously being related to issues with DJ's drawing power they certainly have not started to like him more since he has been speaking out.
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ERASA   Germany. Oct 04 2017 14:11. Posts 2440
To be fair Johnson - Borg was not originally on that card
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whamm!   Albania. Oct 04 2017 16:41. Posts 11625
On October 03 2017 12:40 alejandicto wrote:
Dj vs Borg not in the poster lol
But they are..it's just that they're too tiny to see. They're opposite perched on werdum and Beast's shoulders
On October 03 2017 12:40 alejandicto wrote:
Dj vs Borg not in the poster lol
That's harsh. It's a historic record fight. Besides obviously being related to issues with DJ's drawing power they certainly have not started to like him more since he has been speaking out.
DJ is simply being stubborn, he wants to get paid for just being good and that is not enough.
He doesnt have to play games with the media, A. Silva was awful with the media but he was a huge draw, he needs to listen to his manager and understand that its not just a sprot but a show.
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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 05 2017 23:15. Posts 13030
On October 03 2017 12:40 alejandicto wrote:
Dj vs Borg not in the poster lol
That's harsh. It's a historic record fight. Besides obviously being related to issues with DJ's drawing power they certainly have not started to like him more since he has been speaking out.
DJ is simply being stubborn, he wants to get paid for just being good and that is not enough.
He doesnt have to play games with the media, A. Silva was awful with the media but he was a huge draw, he needs to listen to his manager and understand that its not just a sprot but a show.
Anderson Silva only got popular toward the end of his career. His PPV cards didn't sell big numbers.
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Baalim   Mexico. Oct 06 2017 03:17. Posts 34246
On October 03 2017 12:40 alejandicto wrote:
Dj vs Borg not in the poster lol
That's harsh. It's a historic record fight. Besides obviously being related to issues with DJ's drawing power they certainly have not started to like him more since he has been speaking out.
DJ is simply being stubborn, he wants to get paid for just being good and that is not enough.
He doesnt have to play games with the media, A. Silva was awful with the media but he was a huge draw, he needs to listen to his manager and understand that its not just a sprot but a show.
Anderson Silva only got popular toward the end of his career. His PPV cards didn't sell big numbers.
Its not the most effective way to go big, but he became big despise being one of the most awful fighters media-wise, he didnt speak english, he said dumb shit all the time, he has a girly voice etc
ERASA   Germany. Oct 06 2017 19:04. Posts 2440
Kevin "the Tiramisu Phenom" Lee has 1 hour to lose one lbs, weighed in at 156 :/
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ERASA   Germany. Oct 06 2017 20:14. Posts 2440
made it at 154,5 thank god
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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 07 2017 03:44. Posts 13030
Tony Ferguson (155) vs. Kevin Lee (154.5*) [Lee made weight on his second attempt]
Demetrious Johnson (125) vs. Ray Borg (124)
Fabricio Werdum (247) vs. Derrick Lewis (263.5)
Mara Romero Borella (126) vs. Kalindra Faria (125)
Beneil Dariush (156) vs Evan Dunham (156)
Tom Duquesnoy (135.5) vs. Cody Stamann (136)
Bobby Green (155) vs. Lando Vannata (155.75)
Pearl Gonzalez (116) vs. Poliana Botelho (115)
Matt Schnell (126) vs. Marco Beltran (126)
Walt Harris (251) vs. Mark Godbeer (244.5)
John Moraga (126) vs. Magomed Bibulatov (126)
Thales Leites (185.5) vs. Brad Tavares (185.5)
Fight Cancelled
Will Brooks (156) vs. Nik Lentz (Did not weigh-in)
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Nazgul   Netherlands. Oct 07 2017 12:38. Posts 7080
I know you pointed it out PR but I just realized how amazing Lando vs Green is.
Really fun card.
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Minsk   United States. Oct 07 2017 22:12. Posts 1558
Johnson ML
Johnson by Submission
Ferguson ML
Green ML
Thailes Leites ML
Thailes Leites by Decision
Dariush ML
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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 07 2017 22:20. Posts 13030
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My final picks:
• Ferguson > Lee
• Johnson > Borg
• Werdum > Lewis
• Faria > Borella
• Dunham > Dariush
• Stamann > Duquesnoy
• Vannata > Green
• Gonzalez > Botelho
• Harris > Godbeer
• Bibulatov > Moraga
• Leites > Tavares
• Beltran > Schnell
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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 07 2017 23:36. Posts 13030
The Werdum vs. Lewis fight is OFF... ...4 minutes before DraftKings locked...
WTF?????????
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ERASA   Germany. Oct 07 2017 23:39. Posts 2440
every time lewis fights, he goes on helwanis show saying he wants to take time off to heal, just to have a fight announced a few weeks later :/
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ERASA   Germany. Oct 07 2017 23:44. Posts 2440
btw ehen will the fights start? i have one stream saying fx it shows spiderman and another stream shows the dan hardy prefight analysis of the fights...
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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 07 2017 23:50. Posts 13030
On October 07 2017 22:44 ERASA wrote:
btw ehen will the fights start? i have one stream saying fx it shows spiderman and another stream shows the dan hardy prefight analysis of the fights...
It starts 30 minutes late cuz of Lewis pulling out.
Any DraftKings team with Werdum and/or Lewis = dead. DraftKings can't do anything once the events lock, cuz the draft percentages automatically show up.
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ERASA   Germany. Oct 07 2017 23:54. Posts 2440
dead means you get your money back? or to you compete with 4 fighters?
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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 08 2017 00:02. Posts 13030
On October 07 2017 22:54 ERASA wrote:
dead means you get your money back? or to you compete with 4 fighters?
Dead = dead
You don't get your money back. Anyone who didn't pick Werdum/Lewis automatically have you beat because they have 6 fighters vs. your 5 fighters.
People just lost thousands of dollars by that fight getting cancelled, and there's no way to get it back.
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ERASA   Germany. Oct 08 2017 00:06. Posts 2440
Thats crazy. i dont exactly know how it works. but couldnt you refund everbody that drafted werdum/lewis and let those compete who didnt?
Anyways i wish you good look on onyour other teams!
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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 08 2017 00:10. Posts 13030
WHAT THE FUCK?????????????
UFC just announced Werdum vs. Harris, which means 2 cancelled fights on DraftKings????????????????
No update how this will work now...
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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 08 2017 00:41. Posts 13030
Sick finish by Moraga!
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Baalim   Mexico. Oct 08 2017 01:04. Posts 34246
the UFC is getting fucked hard by fighters cancelling last minute, they should probably put some harsher stuff in the contracts that you also give a % of your next purse if you cancel after X day notice
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iakim322   United States. Oct 08 2017 01:28. Posts 1335
So strange. Shitty thing to do to Harris's opponent if not given a replacement. Train to fight on a big card then for no reason related to you or your opponent, you don't get to perform and maybe not paid
Also agree with the notion of a penalty for future purses for last minute pull outs. Been happening way too often for the conversation to just stop at 'no..we have to keep fighters interest at the top of all priorities.' Someone like Khabib should definitely have had his future purse diminished for torpedo'ing two events. Even if it becomes an uncontrollable medical issue, ultimately, weight cutting is still your responsibility and yours only after you sign your name on the fight contract. Probably Nunes too. Definitely Ray Borg who had already had a history of it but instead just got a pat on the back and rewarded with the same opportunity right away. Prob just because DJ wants that record so badly
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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 08 2017 01:31. Posts 13030
"Fabricio Werdum will now fight Walt Harris. Both fighters will accrue fantasy points." - DraftKings
Not sure if this rule will be just for the regular events, or if it's for the regular + televised events.
Harris wasn't available in the televised events when the event locked, but people still had leftover teams that had Werdum vs. Lewis, so Werdum may still be live for the televised events, which would suck cuz it puts the rest of us at a disadvantage, unless Werdum gets KOed.
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Nazgul   Netherlands. Oct 08 2017 01:46. Posts 7080
On October 08 2017 00:04 Baalim wrote:
the UFC is getting fucked hard by fighters cancelling last minute, they should probably put some harsher stuff in the contracts that you also give a % of your next purse if you cancel after X day notice
I don't think that makes much of a difference. They train for months if not more and lose out on all of their purse already.
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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 08 2017 01:58. Posts 13030
Fuck...
I used Schnell and Gonzalez in multiple televised teams and both don't do shit...
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ERASA   Germany. Oct 08 2017 02:32. Posts 2440
50 gsssssssssssssssssssssss, baby!!!!!
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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 08 2017 02:34. Posts 13030
29-27, 29-27, 28-28 = Draw
That score makes no sense, and the announcer didn't say who the scores were for.
One judge would've had to give it 29-27 to Green, which makes no sense.
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ERASA   Germany. Oct 08 2017 02:36. Posts 2440
Maybe they fucked up and it was a majority decision...
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ERASA   Germany. Oct 08 2017 02:46. Posts 2440
hm i had a bet vannata by ko/tko and now after the draw i got that bet refunded, does that seem right?
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ERASA   Germany. Oct 08 2017 02:59. Posts 2440
29-28 stamann imo
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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 08 2017 03:02. Posts 13030
Good performance from Stamann.
He is way too well-rounded for Duquesnoy, and has a good chin with superior cardio. Duquesnoy was drawing dead aside from a 1-hitter quitter from an elbow or flying knee (he lacks power in his hands).
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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 08 2017 03:03. Posts 13030
On October 08 2017 01:59 ERASA wrote:
29-28 stamann imo
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ERASA   Germany. Oct 08 2017 03:05. Posts 2440
Thanks, but i found a pretty good acestream that im using
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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 08 2017 03:07. Posts 13030
On October 08 2017 02:05 ERASA wrote:
Thanks, but i found a pretty good acestream that im using
Sharing is caring.
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ERASA   Germany. Oct 08 2017 03:10. Posts 2440
PuertoRican   United States. Oct 08 2017 03:42. Posts 13030
I have Dunham 2-1 (R2/R3). It all depends on what the judges score Round 1.
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ERASA   Germany. Oct 08 2017 03:45. Posts 2440
draw seems fine, if you give dariush a 10-8 first
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iakim322   United States. Oct 08 2017 03:49. Posts 1335
Had it same Dunham 2,3 with Rd 1 kinda close to a 10-8 but not enough really. Judges maybe got a little carried away with awarding more 10-8's than the old rules
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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 08 2017 05:02. Posts 13030
Damn!
Sick finish by Demetrious Johnson!
I can't wait for the .GIF
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[GiTM]-Ace   United States. Oct 08 2017 05:04. Posts 1585
holy shit that was a sick finish
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ERASA   Germany. Oct 08 2017 05:32. Posts 2440
1-1 lee 1st, tony 2nd
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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 08 2017 05:35. Posts 13030
This is going as planned. Lee will get finished in R4.
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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 08 2017 05:37. Posts 13030
eZ pZ for Tony Ferguson...
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traxamillion   United States. Oct 08 2017 05:38. Posts 10468
fuck yea ferguson dominated his ass. so dangerous off his back
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whamm!   Albania. Oct 08 2017 05:39. Posts 11625
respect to these guys. in 3 rounds they made it look like a 5 rounder
conor better cardio up soon he's really been the one ive always feared for conor. they have the same management team so there really was no rush to match them up before but now its inevitable
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traxamillion   United States. Oct 08 2017 05:40. Posts 10468
He Deserves the money fight with McGregor now. But McGregor will be more dangerous than LEE. Ferguson gets hit that could be all bad for him but they are my #1 and 2 Lightweights
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[GiTM]-Ace   United States. Oct 08 2017 05:46. Posts 1585
dam that was almost a bink
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Baalim   Mexico. Oct 08 2017 08:46. Posts 34246
On October 08 2017 04:39 whamm! wrote:
conor better cardio up soon he's really been the one ive always feared for conor. they have the same management team so there really was no rush to match them up before but now its inevitable
I dont think I've ever seen an athlete who lacked cardio to suddenly gain it, once a gasser, always a gasser.
Also Its not inevitable, Diaz 3 might happen, hopefully not.
Nazgul   Netherlands. Oct 09 2017 01:31. Posts 7080
so nuts
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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 09 2017 04:43. Posts 13030
I forgot to post it here last night, but DraftKings is offering refunds to people who contact them via customer support (I kept my winnings, and they refunded me over $100 in tournament fees for the remainder, so I ended up breaking even). This is the response I received from DK support:
"Thank you for your patience while we worked through all possibilities when evaluating the best course of action after the decision was made to have the fight between Werdum and Harris.
Werdum and Harris both accumulated points for their fight against each other. Please note that the scoring of this fight was not live, but their statistics were added prior to contests paying out.
As we understand having a scratched fighter in your lineup is frustrating, we want to provide you with the best experience possible. We will credit your account based on your Entry Fees-Winnings for each of the Draft Groups last night.
For example, if you had $100 in total Entry Fees for the Main Draft Group and received payouts totaling $50, you will receive a $50 credit. If you also had $20 in total entry fees in the Televised Only Draft Group, and received payouts totaling $10, you will receive a $10 credit.
As a result of the refund, it will ensure that you are not at a net loss for yesterday evenings slate. If you are due a credit, please allow 48 hours for the credit to be applied to your account.
Thank you for your patience and if you need anything further, please let us know. We are happy to help.
Thank you,
Zack
DraftKings Player Advocate"
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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 10 2017 20:37. Posts 13030
Tony Ferguson: $500,000 (includes $250,000 win bonus)
Kevin Lee: $250,000
Demetrious Johnson: $370,000
Ray Borg: $100,000
Fabricio Werdum: $400,000 (includes $125,000 win bonus)
Walt Harris: $28,000