What's the most tiliting?

mumia abu jamal has some pretty interesting perspectives on race relations imo. I would try reading the more articulate perspectives from the BLM movement before dismissing it as a whole. I mean can't you see that racism is a real and extreme issue simply by comparing how black dominated cities like new orleans or detroit are treated compared to white dominated cities? Or how harsh prison sentences are given out to black people in America? It's really not that hard to see imo. I mean police don't target wall street executives for drug posession every 2 minutes like they target african americans in the ghetto's.The american incarceration system is just pure savagry, i mean i heard that there are more black people in prison now than there were slaves 200 years ago.

Loco s probably trolling though

On September 16 2017 16:11 Loco wrote: YouTube edumacation ftw.

To me, that's the most tilting. The way large swaths of people think that watching a youtube video on something (often a very complex subject) makes them an expert on the matter, and the way linking youtube videos of one guy talking about a subject is considered an argument.

On September 16 2017 17:24 LikeASet wrote: Show nested quote + On September 16 2017 16:11 Loco wrote:   On September 16 2017 00:03 LikeASet wrote:   On September 15 2017 21:39 Loco wrote: "If I prefer my women not to have a penis that makes me transphobic" Only someone who is legitimately transphobic would say that. wut? No wonder you don't understand such a simple statement, your idea of a great intellectual is Ben Shapiro (who is also transphobic, duh). YouTube edumacation ftw. You're conflating someone for having a sexual preference (obvious when he says "my women" as having a phobia for their non preference. It's clear you don't have an understanding of what a phobia is. If someone can't stand being in the same room with a transsexual then said person would be reasonably described as being transphobic which is not the case in the post posted by newbsaibot or Ben Shapiro. Criticizing, even incorrectly, does not equate to having a fear. It takes longer to grasp how someone can make such an immature and elitist post than your previous statement. The nature of this blog was for people to vent out their frustration against certain ideologies, if you wanted to provide arguments for either of the listed movements then that's fine, but you're just shit posting, attacking individuals on LP for no apparent reason. Part of me doesn't even know why I'm responding because you're probably going to degenerate this thread further.

This whole blog post is shit, so I'm just lowering myself down to your level and contributing my part. Do you sincerely expect people to contribute thoughtful things when you open a blog saying "these people piss me off:"?

You don't understand the basic definition of transphobia for starters. Transphobia refers to negative attitudes and actions towards trans people. It's not restricted to not being able to be in a room with them out of fear. You're conflating the subject with phobias that are more accurately understood to be clinical phobias.

Newbsaibot's post implies that he doesn't believe a MtF trans person who hasn't transitioned is a woman. He can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm quite confident based on that statement that he would also use the pronoun 'he' when addressing someone like Riley Dennis. Same as Ben Shapiro does. That's transphobic. (Actually, no, it's not the same, since Shapiro does it even after someone has transitioned). It doesn't matter if you think they are wrong on some issues, it's discriminatory and shitty. I can understand when egomaniacal religious kooks like Shapiro do it but the fact that you make excuses for people like him is truly pathetic.

On September 17 2017 10:45 Liquid`Drone wrote: Show nested quote + On September 16 2017 16:11 Loco wrote: YouTube edumacation ftw. To me, that's the most tilting. The way large swaths of people think that watching a youtube video on something (often a very complex subject) makes them an expert on the matter, and the way linking youtube videos of one guy talking about a subject is considered an argument.

Quoted For The Motherfuckin' Truth

On September 17 2017 09:55 Spitfiree wrote: Loco s probably trolling though

Not quite, just being incendiary for effect. It fits with the whole righteous indignation theme of this blog post.

On September 16 2017 16:11 Loco wrote: Show nested quote + On September 16 2017 00:03 LikeASet wrote:   On September 15 2017 21:39 Loco wrote: "If I prefer my women not to have a penis that makes me transphobic" Only someone who is legitimately transphobic would say that. wut? No wonder you don't understand such a simple statement, your idea of a great intellectual is Ben Shapiro (who is also transphobic, duh). YouTube edumacation ftw.

and he's against abortions aka "killing babies"

On September 17 2017 17:28 Loco wrote: Show nested quote + On September 17 2017 09:55 Spitfiree wrote: Loco s probably trolling though Not quite, just being incendiary for effect. It fits with the whole righteous indignation theme of this blog post.

thats literally the definition of trolling :D

On September 17 2017 17:15 Loco wrote: Newbsaibot's post implies that he doesn't believe a MtF trans person who hasn't transitioned is a woman. He can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm quite confident based on that statement that he would also use the pronoun 'he' when addressing someone like Riley Dennis. Same as Ben Shapiro does. That's transphobic. (Actually, no, it's not the same, since Shapiro does it even after someone has transitioned). It doesn't matter if you think they are wrong on some issues, it's discriminatory and shitty. I can understand when egomaniacal religious kooks like Shapiro do it but the fact that you make excuses for people like him is truly pathetic.

is calling shapiro an "egomaniacal religious kook" religion-phobia?

the word phobic gets tossed around so frequently nowadays... seems like a phobic can be anyone from someone who is irrationally scared of small spaces/spiders to someone who calls a person with a dick a 'he'. what a world we live in, lol.

On September 18 2017 03:49 Into Infinity wrote: Show nested quote + On September 17 2017 17:15 Loco wrote: Newbsaibot's post implies that he doesn't believe a MtF trans person who hasn't transitioned is a woman. He can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm quite confident based on that statement that he would also use the pronoun 'he' when addressing someone like Riley Dennis. Same as Ben Shapiro does. That's transphobic. (Actually, no, it's not the same, since Shapiro does it even after someone has transitioned). It doesn't matter if you think they are wrong on some issues, it's discriminatory and shitty. I can understand when egomaniacal religious kooks like Shapiro do it but the fact that you make excuses for people like him is truly pathetic. is calling shapiro an "egomaniacal religious kook" religion-phobia? the word phobic gets tossed around so frequently nowadays... seems like a phobic can be anyone from someone who is irrationally scared of small spaces/spiders to someone who calls a person with a dick a 'he'. what a world we live in, lol.

I don't like to be dismissive of people. I've been scratching my head as to how I can possibly respond to your post. But there really isn't a good way to do it. It's lose-lose. It's not my job to educate you on transphobia. I don't have the time. You can inform yourself. (Hint: YouTube isn't a good place for learns)

There is nothing remotely 'religion-phobic' about calling someone like Shapiro a religious kook. He uses his own personal and culturally-learned biases and religious beliefs to argue for taking away people's freedom to do what they want with their own bodies and he openly discriminates against people whom he can't relate to. I don't hate, fear or discriminate against people who are religious. My atheism doesn't affect people who are religious. People can believe whatever they want as long as they aren't hurting anybody. I only bring up people's religious beliefs when they are harmful or show someone's poor ability to engage in critical thinking and understand complex issues.

Did I mention that Shapiro is a climate change denier? You guys can pick better people to look up to.

lol calling someone a egomaniacal religious kook is not a phobic statement it's just an ad hominen. But the evidence that he is a kook is overwhelming as well.

The evidence that he is egomaniacal is overwhelming as well. He titles his own videos as "Ben Shapiro DESTROYS X" or "Ben Shapiro OWNS X". Absurd.

lol those are his own videos? I've seen lots of ben shapiro DESTROYS but lol I never thought he was the one uploading them. That's hilarious.

On September 18 2017 17:14 Loco wrote: The evidence that he is egomaniacal is overwhelming as well. He titles his own videos as "Ben Shapiro DESTROYS X" or "Ben Shapiro OWNS X". Absurd.

lol i always assumed that was some 16 year old kid that names titles like that. pretty amazing and funny that a grown man can do that. people who argue to 'destroy' or 'own' rather than learn are pretty tilting to be around

Btw stroggoz, personal attack =/= ad hom. It's only an ad hom of its used in the context of an argument (where the argument isn't addressed in favor of a personal attack).

right yeah, been a while since i did my phil101 lol. i got nothing against personal attacks then, since they arn't commiting fallacies.

Loco you sure do a whole lot of projection on these forums, no one ever claims to be an expert on these forums on any subject at all. You think the main purpose was to have some grand academic discussion about said topics on this blog? No it was merely just an opportunity for people to socialize over a common frustration over ideologies that most people find ridiculous in private but can't speak out against in public because they'll get character assassinated. Just because someone makes a post about some thinker making X point, you go on to derp "how dare you post said thinker instead of this thinker" then you go on to list all the vices of the original thinker as if it had any relevance to points that were made.

No one in this post was trying to win any argument before you came into this post wanting to feed your huge ego. When I posted the videos earlier they couldn't just have been for entertainment purposes or just suggestions of interesting thinkers to listen to and maybe encourage others to post videos? You immediately want to strawman people and assume that because they mention any thinker and post a video of them, that they are some kind of hardcore fan boy or believe 100% what they believe and don't question anything.



I defended Newbsaibot because he obviously made a comment in the spirit of jest and now you're making a huge assumption about him. You have no idea how he would actually treat someone who is transitioning or has transitioned in real life. Any normal person that hangs out with people in real life could have just thought maybe Newbsaibot meant that he prefers to not have sex with women that have a penis. You love to just twist reality and over extrapolate to give yourself an opportunity to mental masturbate and just mental jizz over arguments that aren't even there in the first place.

Trigger warning, more youtube videos, don't get tilted please

I think you really should listen more to what academics say even if you disagree with their views on identity politics, or don't like loco, there is some value to be had in listening to all the perspective's and especially well researched ones.You should really go to MiT open courseware and start doing some of the undergraduate courses to learn the basics of what real research is like rather than just 'educating' yourself with these charlatans on youtube. So maybe go through the philosophy of race course and read all the readings. you clearly have enough spare time to if your posting on liquidpoker.

https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguisti...e-race-and-racism-fall-2014/readings/