Dwan is back!!!

lol standard cooler vs esfandiari playing against dwan last time i saw it was 777 vs rivered qqq

wait so 4bet to $14,000. 5bet to $41,000. so that means 3bet would be around $6,000. Which means this pot must be over 1000bb's! I think i would snap fold with KK here.

So sick that in a live game you see your KK and get a boner, it's going to be tough to fold a hand you get once every 20 hours against durr

what the heck is with the womans facial expressions its like she took a weird botox

lol at Negreanu calling the 5bet
that was about the only "interesting" thing about the hand...

This hand was a snoozefest, but I'll still watch

I want to see all the old faces. Like where's Ivey man

On August 15 2017 11:29 Stroggoz wrote: wait so 4bet to $14,000. 5bet to $41,000. so that means 3bet would be around $6,000. Which means this pot must be over 1000bb's! I think i would snap fold with KK here.

there must he a straddle in there somewhere. the game is 200/400 i think.

once antonio 5 bets can he really fold with all that money in the pot? and vs durrr?

On August 16 2017 03:12 lucky331 wrote: Show nested quote + On August 15 2017 11:29 Stroggoz wrote: wait so 4bet to $14,000. 5bet to $41,000. so that means 3bet would be around $6,000. Which means this pot must be over 1000bb's! I think i would snap fold with KK here. there must he a straddle in there somewhere. the game is 200/400 i think. once antonio 5 bets can he really fold with all that money in the pot? and vs durrr?

he should shove AA only here for value, and balance it with a bluff shove with some AJo combos. Since AJo is the best hand to cold 4bet bluff i think (AQo would overcall or flat a 3bet), dwans range should be AA and AJ as a bluff shove for 1000bb's+. If he only shoves AA/KK he is imbalanced and its an easy fold with KK from antonio. Durrr is probably imbalanced and only shove AA here and therefore easy to play against, but he is playing more exploitatively i guess, and people can't fold KK.

On August 16 2017 05:20 Stroggoz wrote: Show nested quote + On August 16 2017 03:12 lucky331 wrote:   On August 15 2017 11:29 Stroggoz wrote: wait so 4bet to $14,000. 5bet to $41,000. so that means 3bet would be around $6,000. Which means this pot must be over 1000bb's! I think i would snap fold with KK here. there must he a straddle in there somewhere. the game is 200/400 i think. once antonio 5 bets can he really fold with all that money in the pot? and vs durrr? he should shove AA only here for value, and balance it with a bluff shove with some AJo combos. Since AJo is the best hand to cold 4bet bluff i think (AQo would overcall or flat a 3bet), dwans range should be AA and AJ as a bluff shove for 1000bb's+. If he only shoves AA/KK he is imbalanced and its an easy fold with KK from antonio. Durrr is probably imbalanced and only shove AA here and therefore easy to play against, but he is playing more exploitatively i guess, and people can't fold KK.

Ummm no durrr can 4b w axss, ak, aq aj ato as bluff or maybe some suited connectors but when he jams his range is def weight aa/kk with some axss or ak. Hard to fold KK vs durrr though. If it was against negrunue who does that I fold KK but against a maniac like durrr. Tough man

maybe durrr shoves as wide as AK but its pretty terrible to shove anything less than AA for value in his spot imo, being 500bb's effective.

obv AA is for value, KK/AK is maybe just to take it down preflop out of position. but yes if you 6b and get called holdinh KK, you are up against kk or AA a lot the time

On August 16 2017 13:39 Stroggoz wrote: maybe durrr shoves as wide as AK but its pretty terrible to shove anything less than AA for value in his spot imo, being 500bb's effective.

i do not understand their history but if it is early in the game, they probably do not have the history to be out of line yet.

On August 16 2017 05:20 Stroggoz wrote: Show nested quote + On August 16 2017 03:12 lucky331 wrote:   On August 15 2017 11:29 Stroggoz wrote: wait so 4bet to $14,000. 5bet to $41,000. so that means 3bet would be around $6,000. Which means this pot must be over 1000bb's! I think i would snap fold with KK here. there must he a straddle in there somewhere. the game is 200/400 i think. once antonio 5 bets can he really fold with all that money in the pot? and vs durrr? he should shove AA only here for value, and balance it with a bluff shove with some AJo combos. Since AJo is the best hand to cold 4bet bluff i think (AQo would overcall or flat a 3bet), dwans range should be AA and AJ as a bluff shove for 1000bb's+. If he only shoves AA/KK he is imbalanced and its an easy fold with KK from antonio. Durrr is probably imbalanced and only shove AA here and therefore easy to play against, but he is playing more exploitatively i guess, and people can't fold KK.

AJo is terrible the J blocks nothing, actually your blufff hand is AK, when you shove AK deep isnt for value obviously

I considered AK but you would flat the 5bet i think. I mean, i realize Ajo is not great. A5s would be better to bluff jam with, though im not sure that should be in 4betting range. perhaps it should be instead of AJo because it's so deep. I havn't got piosolver but what would it say about this.

ak oop is tough 3 way, you are just hoping antonio has air a lot of the time. obv when douchebag cc 5b he has QQ/KK face up.
To be honest i see dwan have AA here like 80-90% of the time only a sicko would 6b bluff here but its dwan and he is a sicko.

if u think antonio has enough of a bluffing range AKs can def be a shove. I dont know math atm but he just needs folds about 40-45% i feel neganu is def AK QQ JJ heavy here and prob some KK too obv. But with AKs u have solid removal and meh okish equity vs AA/KK. I def could see it being best to jam AKs here in dwans spot. But it would depend mostly on antonio

the most face up hand ever, so much time and deep everyone can fold KK here

I doubt anybody bluffjams here ever.

On August 17 2017 21:10 Spitfiree wrote: I doubt anybody bluffjams here ever.

Well

On August 17 2017 21:10 Spitfiree wrote: I doubt anybody bluffjams here ever.

why not. it makes sense from a gto perspective.

On August 17 2017 21:10 Spitfiree wrote: I doubt anybody bluffjams here ever.

in general yeah. but durrr, he sometimes might. i'd also imagine isildur1 can too.

they have history where dwan owns him always in big pots with coolers. could be dwan was thinking that too and antonio just could not pass up the chance to bust tom with KK

wow that selbst hand is amazing and tilting, she bombs it from 34k to 100k, instead of making it 70k then folding to jam. then she says she did it because he wasnt 3 betting much, then she complained about not sucking out on one of the runouts. you can really see that ivy league education paying off

but yeah its nothing like the situation dwan is in.

Selbst is just a tilt monkey, that had nothing to do with playing poker... still pretty amazing though.

I also really think you guys over exaggerate the aggressiveness of durrr, Blom exposed him pretty hard imo. Durrrr's range here s AK/AA/KK imo nothing else and pretty sure AK wouldnt play like that all the time.

^ why would durrrr jam with KK? there is no ace blocker and it blocks 5/6 KK combinations, putting more % of AA in antonio's 5bet range. literally the worst hand to bluff with.

people who think nobody bluffs there arent reallly aware how highstakes is played, not that its the paticular case of this weak table, but you will see crazier bluffs in HS

dwan could shove 56s and still win in that spot. :D

On August 19 2017 02:49 Stroggoz wrote: ^ why would durrrr jam with KK? there is no ace blocker and it blocks 5/6 KK combinations, putting more % of AA in antonio's 5bet range. literally the worst hand to bluff with.

obviously jamming KK will never be a bluff; the 1 better hand never folds and he might (but apparently doesn't) fold out one chop combo. If he jammed it would be as a valuebet clearly; there is so much money in the pot esp with negreanu's coldcall that he is perfectly happy to fold out the equity of hands like a5ss/AKss. He makes more getting those hands to fold than he does calling a 5bet and going postflop allowing EQ realization. If he flats pre AA always stacks him anyways so the real reason to flat the 5bet would be for some balance reasons (although AA makes the better flat and KK the better jam at around 200bb)

anyone got the second episode? pm me