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Glacierz   United States. Jul 17 2017 19:08. Posts 5

I went to AC over the weekend and played some 2/5 NL. I'm not very experienced with live cash games, and felt like people do not respect the standard 4xbb preflop raise at all. I'd raise in late position and usually get 2+ callers into the flop. People also don't respect any c-betting and call with a lot of random hands. How do I capitalize on this? I feel like I bleed a lot of chips making standard bets/raises and usually get outdrawn due to so many people staying in the pot. Maybe I should be raising a lot more than the standard 4xbb?

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K40Cheddar   United States. Jul 17 2017 21:39. Posts 2150

If people keep calling then raise bigger with good hands. If people keep calling cbets then check back more with your middle value hands and bet bigger with strong value hands.

Personally live i just bet strong value and clear semi bluffs like flush and straight draws, surrender hands with no chance of improving, and just try to see showdown with mid pairs.

Biggest flaws i see in most live players is they play super face up, like donk leads on turns and rivers when they complete their shit. Average joe players also have garbage table demenor its not that hard to tell if they like their hand or not. Also notice that when they do get great hands they extract shit value from it and cant make correct folds a lot of times. I think if you are patient and disciplined youll already have an edge over most people. I guess if you are playing 2/5 sometimes youll catch a decent player but from my experience the players are just as bad as 1/2 but more aggressively bad instead of passively bad.

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jul 17 2017 21:56. Posts 7885


  On July 17 2017 18:08 Glacierz wrote:
How do I capitalize on this?


pot & 1.5x pot all day long

also 4x open pre hasnt been standard for around 7 years probably

 Last edit: 17/07/2017 21:57

Glacierz   United States. Jul 18 2017 18:27. Posts 5

Haha last time I played was back in college, so I guess it's been 7+ yrs for me. How did ppl get so aggressive? The odds/math certainly didn't change...


Baalim   Mexico. Jul 19 2017 00:59. Posts 31590


  On July 18 2017 17:27 Glacierz wrote:
so I guess it's been 7+ yrs for me. How did ppl get so aggressive? The odds/math certainly didn't change...



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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jul 19 2017 21:12. Posts 3576

What's wrong with 4x? One of the few times i've ever been to a casino everyone thinks im a massive degen because i dont limp every hand.

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Trav94   Canada. Jul 19 2017 22:54. Posts 1663

4x is quite normal for live poker. Spitfiree doesn't know what he's talking about.


Stat.Quo   Somalia. Jul 19 2017 23:40. Posts 1221

At 2/5 and 5/10 you can open with 4x + 1 per limper if there aren't a lot of people three betting you to death. If they're just calling, then I go with 4x + 1, if I got a strong hand you can even do 5x + 1


LikeASet   United States. Jul 20 2017 07:53. Posts 2104

Just don't be that guy/girl that goes 20x when he/she gets pocket aces....


Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jul 20 2017 14:17. Posts 3576

i went 100x with AA. Byrnesam went with me and he told the whole table they were all nits (we were very drunk), and so we had a straddle to $20, double straddle to $40, and triple straddle to $60, and like 2 people cold called the triple straddle's, so the pot is already a buyin without any preflop raise. i picked up AA and jammed it in.

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jul 20 2017 22:16. Posts 7885

No wonder 2nl online winner would crush live games damn

Also yeah I wasn't talking about live

 Last edit: 20/07/2017 22:16

traxamillion   United States. Aug 08 2017 04:16. Posts 10299

lol poor Eastern European nits; knowing nothing of American live cash games


Baalim   Mexico. Aug 10 2017 07:36. Posts 31590

I very rarely play live but even I I've been in 5/10 games where 7x is the standard unless you want the whole table to call

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Ryan Neilly   United States. Aug 10 2017 07:59. Posts 1173


  On July 18 2017 23:59 Baalim wrote:
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The game has evolved like fifteen times, then all the training sites came out brother.


Ryan Neilly   United States. Aug 10 2017 08:00. Posts 1173

at 1/2, 4-7x is very standard, at 2/5, 3-5x is standard, you see mostly 4-5x opens, 5/10 you will face more normal 3 - 3.5 - 4x opens and smaller iso's


Ryan Neilly   United States. Aug 10 2017 08:01. Posts 1173

take ur time, don't treat live cashgames like a tournament, no need to be creative, they will give u there money, just relax and have fun.


SuFF   Poland. Aug 10 2017 09:18. Posts 447

Multiway pots u gotta check way more often. Dont auto cbet into 2ppl +, and consider checking strong top pairs and even overpairs especially OOP. Once it checks through on the flop you will have easier value bets on turn and river.
Example, u open QQ on EP, 2 guys IP and BB call
Flop 578r
check it and see what happens, if someone makes weak bet and get calls u can always c/r anyway

Flop AT6fd, check everything except sets+. Check AK alot unless ur oponents are really fishy and will call u down with A5 always... Thing is once it checks through on the flop u will have easy 2 streets of value with AJ+

 Last edit: 10/08/2017 09:26

NewbSaibot   United States. Aug 15 2017 03:19. Posts 4780

^ I like this a lot, gonna try this next time. It's hard to know when you're being trapped, they sucked out, or you're value betting in live games if you cbet good hands on the flop. But even fish will try to make something happen on the turn if it gets checked through.

listening to edzwoo has made u a nit... *sigh* - ZalforLast edit: 08/09/2017 06:55

Velando11   United States. Sep 02 2017 21:02. Posts 1

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