High Openness scorers are also more likely to have a high IQ.
Awww yeee
Btw this test was pretty bad, the 2nd page was basically the opposite of the first one to double check the answers
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DooMeR United States. Jun 04 2017 13:42. Posts 8545
70% open to experience
63% conscientious
65% extraverted
70% agreeableness
18% neuroticisim
I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance, by running away from the scene of an accident.
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Liquid`Drone Norway. Jun 04 2017 14:43. Posts 3093
Your score for openness was high, at 78%.
Your score for conscientiousness was low, at 15%.
Your score for extraversion was high, at 78%.
Your score for Agreeableness was moderate, at 68%.
Your score for neuroticism was low, at 10%.
extroversion probably a bit high, rest spot on.
lol POKER
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casinocasino Canada. Jun 04 2017 16:32. Posts 3343
"On the other hand, they tend to be more flexible and spontaneous, and do well in unpredictable environments where they must respond to constantly changing circumstances."
What are some examples of unpredictable environments where they must respond to constantly changing circumstances?
Poker? What else?
Low conscientiousness does not seem to have any positives besides maybe carefree or easy going. I don't want to be a carefree bum under the bridge however.
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Liquid`Drone Norway. Jun 04 2017 18:46. Posts 3093
teach a non-science class in high school or junior high school. very few jobs are more demanding in terms of changing circumstances and unpredictable environments. ;p Demands some degree of carefree easy going attitude to preserve sanity also.
Your score for openness was 75%. This is in the moderate range.
Your score for conscientiousness was 60%, which is in the moderate range.
Your score for Extraversion was low, at 38%.
Your score for Agreeableness was low, at 55%.
Your score for neuroticism was low, at 25%.
NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut
Your score for openness was 68%. This is in the moderate range.
Your score for conscientiousness was low, at 53%
Your score for Extraversion was low, at 40%.
Your score for Agreeableness was high, at 80%.
Your score for neuroticism was low, at 25%
Interesting test, definitely want to improve agreeableness in the near future
These traits are understood to be pretty much immutable parts of one's personality. So you can't become agreeable just because you want to be, it basically precedes your conscious input the extent to which you are or are not. The only thing you could do is use willpower to behave differently (in this case in a way that's more agreeable) and go against your nature if you will, but that kind of behavior wouldn't be gratifying for you and therefore you would have no reason to repeat it so you'd be back where you started pretty quickly.
On June 04 2017 04:56 Baalim wrote:
The test was waaaay too short I'd like a longer more precise one
Jordan Peterson said in his last Patreon video that in a few weeks (I think) a new one would be out and he thinks it's the most reliable.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
On June 04 2017 17:46 Liquid`Drone wrote:
teach a non-science class in high school or junior high school. very few jobs are more demanding in terms of changing circumstances and unpredictable environments. ;p Demands some degree of carefree easy going attitude to preserve sanity also.
I really should consider this. I have a degree in history and many people have told me I would be great at teaching. Is this what you do I presume? What subject?
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Liquid`Drone Norway. Jun 04 2017 21:33. Posts 3093
currently unemployed tbh (as a teacher), but yeah, I teach history, social studies and english. I think it's pretty much the perfect job for me, and I've specifically gotten a lot of props from other teachers and students for being good at improvising. Teaching science is more about preparing, social studies/history are more about interacting with your students and coming up with relevant examples of whatever you're teaching. Social studies often ends up being a 'discuss current events' class, which is often tough to have anything prepared for in the first place.
Interesting test, definitely want to improve agreeableness in the near future
These traits are understood to be pretty much immutable parts of one's personality. So you can't become agreeable just because you want to be, it basically precedes your conscious input the extent to which you are or are not. The only thing you could do is use willpower to behave differently (in this case in a way that's more agreeable) and go against your nature if you will, but that kind of behavior wouldn't be gratifying for you and therefore you would have no reason to repeat it so you'd be back where you started pretty quickly.
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I'm not so sure about it, I think being a professional poker player has lowered my neutoricism a lot, that being said its like practicing 24/7 for years so its probably very difficult but can be done with hard work
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Liquid`Drone Norway. Jun 05 2017 02:20. Posts 3093
I also think it's possible to consistently adjust your behavior because your surroundings give vastly better response to it, even if it goes against your nature and isn't intrinsically gratifying.
Your score for openness was 68%. This is in the moderate range.
Your score for conscientiousness was 65%, which is in the moderate range.
Your score for Extraversion was moderate, at 60%.
Your score for Agreeableness was moderate, at 60%.
Your score for neuroticism was low, at 0%. <---lmfao
I've definitely changed through the years. Just a few years ago I would have scored higher in opennes, much less in conscentiousness and very high in neuroticism. There are certain character traits that are highly influenced by genetics but it doesn't mean they can't be changed and that it would necessarily take a long time.
On June 04 2017 17:40 RiKD wrote:
What are the low conscientious people to do?
"On the other hand, they tend to be more flexible and spontaneous, and do well in unpredictable environments where they must respond to constantly changing circumstances."
What are some examples of unpredictable environments where they must respond to constantly changing circumstances?
Poker? What else?
Low conscientiousness does not seem to have any positives besides maybe carefree or easy going. I don't want to be a carefree bum under the bridge however.
Jobs with flexible hours are probably the best for low conscientious people. I never had a 9 to 5 job yet, but I imagine it would be a struggle. Have you had any success in following a daily schedule? it would definitely help, but I never had any success sticking to one.
openness was high, at 80%.
conscientiousness was low, at 28%.
Extraversion was low, at 23%.
Agreeableness was moderate, at 63%.
Neuroticism was high, at 58%.
I dont know what a dt drop is. Is it a wrestling move? -Oly
On June 05 2017 04:58 ClouD87 wrote:
I've definitely changed through the years. Just a few years ago I would have scored higher in opennes, much less in conscentiousness and very high in neuroticism. There are certain character traits that are highly influenced by genetics but it doesn't mean they can't be changed and that it would necessarily take a long time.
It's debated whether they change in a meaningful manner over time once you've reached maturity, but even if they do, that doesn't mean they are changeable at will. You've little control over how environmental factors affects them.
Just a few weeks ago I actually posted that I believed that my openness had changed over time and I was much less open than before. I was pretty certain of this and did the test and it's still very high. Obviously the test is not perfectly reliable but still, it looks pretty clear to me now that we can't rely on our own assessment and memories to judge this.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
Interesting test, definitely want to improve agreeableness in the near future
These traits are understood to be pretty much immutable parts of one's personality. So you can't become agreeable just because you want to be, it basically precedes your conscious input the extent to which you are or are not. The only thing you could do is use willpower to behave differently (in this case in a way that's more agreeable) and go against your nature if you will, but that kind of behavior wouldn't be gratifying for you and therefore you would have no reason to repeat it so you'd be back where you started pretty quickly.
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I'm not so sure about it, I think being a professional poker player has lowered my neutoricism a lot, that being said its like practicing 24/7 for years so its probably very difficult but can be done with hard work
Do you mean that you've had to deal with a lot of stress and frustration with poker so you're less likely to be angry, anxious etc in life in general now? In other words, circumstances have forced a kind of stoicism on you so you're less neurotic and more confident in the face of stress now? I definitely think that looking at all 5 traits, if there is one that can change significantly over time it should be that one. On the other extreme, introversion and extraversion shouldn't be able to change much at all once you've reached maturity. But it's so hard to know the causal direction. The brain is plastic and If I were to start meditating now and did so consistently, I could technically lower my neuroticism. But then again, if I am the type of person who can start to meditate in a consistent manner, doesn't it have to be low to begin with? So if I never did the test and simply became very interested in meditation and felt the benefits after a year, then did the test and scored low, I could fool myself into thinking my test results would have been high before.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
Interesting test, definitely want to improve agreeableness in the near future
These traits are understood to be pretty much immutable parts of one's personality. So you can't become agreeable just because you want to be, it basically precedes your conscious input the extent to which you are or are not. The only thing you could do is use willpower to behave differently (in this case in a way that's more agreeable) and go against your nature if you will, but that kind of behavior wouldn't be gratifying for you and therefore you would have no reason to repeat it so you'd be back where you started pretty quickly.
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I'm not so sure about it, I think being a professional poker player has lowered my neutoricism a lot, that being said its like practicing 24/7 for years so its probably very difficult but can be done with hard work
Do you mean that you've had to deal with a lot of stress and frustration with poker so you're less likely to be angry, anxious etc in life in general now? In other words, circumstances have forced a kind of stoicism on you so you're less neurotic and more confident in the face of stress now? I definitely think that looking at all 5 traits, if there is one that can change significantly over time it should be that one. On the other extreme, introversion and extraversion shouldn't be able to change much at all once you've reached maturity. But it's so hard to know the causal direction. The brain is plastic and If I were to start meditating now and did so consistently, I could technically lower my neuroticism. But then again, if I am the type of person who can start to meditate in a consistent manner, doesn't it have to be low to begin with? So if I never did the test and simply became very interested in meditation and felt the benefits after a year, then did the test and scored low, I could fool myself into thinking my test results would have been high before.
I basically agree they dont change, technically they can but it takes so much effort and time its simpler to say they don't because otherwise you give the false impression that those traits are malleable and easily changed which is something most people want to hear, they dont like to be defined and having limits and boundaries
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asdf2000 United States. Jun 06 2017 02:51. Posts 7690
all in all, reading about it, seems pretty accurate, though I tend to think of myself as highly agreeable not moderately agreeable
but maybe I am actually wrong and the test is more right
also the classification of what a "low openness" person tends to be is pretty hit or miss for me, but the description of low-openness itself is accurate for me.
also when I think about it my extraversion score was probably higher than it should have been, I think it may have been going off of loaded questions.
Grindin so hard, Im smashin pussies left and right.
Your score for neuroticism was low, at 25%.
Your score for Agreeableness was high, at 85%.
Your score for Extraversion was low, at 15%.
Your score for conscientiousness was low, at 28%.
Your score for openness was 70%. This is in the moderate range.
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asdf2000 United States. Jun 06 2017 03:00. Posts 7690
Interesting test, definitely want to improve agreeableness in the near future
These traits are understood to be pretty much immutable parts of one's personality. So you can't become agreeable just because you want to be, it basically precedes your conscious input the extent to which you are or are not. The only thing you could do is use willpower to behave differently (in this case in a way that's more agreeable) and go against your nature if you will, but that kind of behavior wouldn't be gratifying for you and therefore you would have no reason to repeat it so you'd be back where you started pretty quickly.
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I'm not so sure about it, I think being a professional poker player has lowered my neutoricism a lot, that being said its like practicing 24/7 for years so its probably very difficult but can be done with hard work
Do you mean that you've had to deal with a lot of stress and frustration with poker so you're less likely to be angry, anxious etc in life in general now? In other words, circumstances have forced a kind of stoicism on you so you're less neurotic and more confident in the face of stress now? I definitely think that looking at all 5 traits, if there is one that can change significantly over time it should be that one. On the other extreme, introversion and extraversion shouldn't be able to change much at all once you've reached maturity. But it's so hard to know the causal direction. The brain is plastic and If I were to start meditating now and did so consistently, I could technically lower my neuroticism. But then again, if I am the type of person who can start to meditate in a consistent manner, doesn't it have to be low to begin with? So if I never did the test and simply became very interested in meditation and felt the benefits after a year, then did the test and scored low, I could fool myself into thinking my test results would have been high before.
I basically agree they dont change, technically they can but it takes so much effort and time its simpler to say they don't because otherwise you give the false impression that those traits are malleable and easily changed which is something most people want to hear, they dont like to be defined and having limits and boundaries
In my experience the average person actually doesn't want to hear that! Only motivated people with healthy mindsets want to hear something like that. Most people don't want to have to take responsibility for their situation on that level.
Grindin so hard, Im smashin pussies left and right.
On June 04 2017 17:40 RiKD wrote:
What are the low conscientious people to do?
"On the other hand, they tend to be more flexible and spontaneous, and do well in unpredictable environments where they must respond to constantly changing circumstances."
What are some examples of unpredictable environments where they must respond to constantly changing circumstances?
Poker? What else?
Low conscientiousness does not seem to have any positives besides maybe carefree or easy going. I don't want to be a carefree bum under the bridge however.
I have a simple example from my job.
In my job, there is 2 types of analyst. Some are assigned to batch, some are assigned to infrastructure.
The guys in batch have to follow fairly strict guidelines, while infrastructure guys are more free to try different things (there isnt always 1 way to do the things, and there often isnt' clear guidelines).
So you can see a guy with low Conscientiousness will have trouble with the highly strict batch job, but will perform well in Infra.
Yeah, my other job besides poker (which I was not industrious really at all besides certain epochs) was an account manager job. I had really high autonomy and could kind of do whatever I wanted as long as profits were good and customers were happy. I would say at this time period I was very conscientious except there were days where I would just go home and take naps, or times where I was depressed and I would just do the bare minimum and then I just started drinking a lot so even if I was like super freak conscientious for say 6 months the low conscientiousness seemed to always come back and get me. That really sucks. From experience even if I get super into something and the conscientiousness is like super high. I am talking working 60+ hours a week really focused at some point I will revert to an even lower conscientiousness than baseline. I'll do something like disregard bankroll and go broke playing 25/50 with an ante. I'll do something like develop alcoholism and throw it all away. That is a really shitty situation to be in. I am extremely open so I can still be happy doing new things and creating and I am extraverted so I am happy around people but shit man I gotta find something to do with my life and no one knows what I should do more than me and I don't know what I should do. That seems like the facts. Just like an IQ number. I am low in conscientious and it is like ok that sucks what do I do about that? I suppose I just make goals like anyone else, take on reasonable responsibility and go from there. I don't see any mansions in my future but I've had enough of a psychic change not to care. If I can just get a nice 1 bedroom in a not yet gentrified cool part of town I'll be cool. Of course that means making 3x rent per month, first and last months' rent, moving costs and everything else. I am going to have to take on enough responsibility to cover that. It'd be a good start and not unreasonable. Anyways, I just started writing and this turned into a blog. "The mind of a low conscientious fellow."
Interesting test, definitely want to improve agreeableness in the near future
These traits are understood to be pretty much immutable parts of one's personality. So you can't become agreeable just because you want to be, it basically precedes your conscious input the extent to which you are or are not. The only thing you could do is use willpower to behave differently (in this case in a way that's more agreeable) and go against your nature if you will, but that kind of behavior wouldn't be gratifying for you and therefore you would have no reason to repeat it so you'd be back where you started pretty quickly.
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I'm not so sure about it, I think being a professional poker player has lowered my neutoricism a lot, that being said its like practicing 24/7 for years so its probably very difficult but can be done with hard work
Do you mean that you've had to deal with a lot of stress and frustration with poker so you're less likely to be angry, anxious etc in life in general now? In other words, circumstances have forced a kind of stoicism on you so you're less neurotic and more confident in the face of stress now? I definitely think that looking at all 5 traits, if there is one that can change significantly over time it should be that one. On the other extreme, introversion and extraversion shouldn't be able to change much at all once you've reached maturity. But it's so hard to know the causal direction. The brain is plastic and If I were to start meditating now and did so consistently, I could technically lower my neuroticism. But then again, if I am the type of person who can start to meditate in a consistent manner, doesn't it have to be low to begin with? So if I never did the test and simply became very interested in meditation and felt the benefits after a year, then did the test and scored low, I could fool myself into thinking my test results would have been high before.
I basically agree they dont change, technically they can but it takes so much effort and time its simpler to say they don't because otherwise you give the false impression that those traits are malleable and easily changed which is something most people want to hear, they dont like to be defined and having limits and boundaries
In my experience the average person actually doesn't want to hear that! Only motivated people with healthy mindsets want to hear something like that. Most people don't want to have to take responsibility for their situation on that level.
Perhaps what you consider healthy I consider sick, most of my social circle are filled with new age hippie kind of thinking, they like to believe they are in control of everything and that reality itself bends at their thoughts and wishes, so they wont hear anything that tells them their personalities are not malleable, they would probably consider that negative thinking or something like that
openness high 100%
concientious high 75%
extraverted high 88%
agreeableness high 88%
neuroticism low 0%
I agree with the openness, am obsessed with art and science. Concientious i've worked at for the past years so happy to get it higher than before. Extraverted i don't agree at all, I consider myself introverted. Agreeableness agreed. Neuroticism... poker helped a shitload with that what with the research I had to do about variance, randomness and all.
I would like for the test results to have the negatives traits as well as the positives though, seems there's only positives shown with your score.
thewh00sel United States. Jun 08 2017 06:52. Posts 2734
So many times i had my mouse all the way on accurate and all the way on inaccurate. Why wasn't indecisive one of the questions?
openness was 68%.
conscientiousness was low, at 43%.
Extraversion was low, at 38%
Agreeableness was low, at 55%
neuroticism was low, at 10%
A government is the most dangerous threat to man’s rights: it holds a legal monopoly on the use of physical force against legally disarmed victims. - Ayn Rand
On June 07 2017 08:01 Baalim wrote:
you had to one-up everybody didnt you?
Only if you judge having a Brave New World, Fordist/soma-induced type of personality a superior one.
Personally, I don't buy the reliability of his results or his explanation. No matter how stoic you've become through poker, it's still just one variable: money. There are so many other variables in day to day life that can affect your mood. You'd have to be mentally incapacitated in some way to be constantly shielded from so-called negative emotions.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
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DooMeR United States. Jun 08 2017 20:24. Posts 8545
.... loco i dont like you dropping big words I dont understand.... now..... what does "personality" mean again? <3
I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance, by running away from the scene of an accident.
On June 07 2017 08:01 Baalim wrote:
you had to one-up everybody didnt you?
Only if you judge having a Brave New World, Fordist/soma-induced type of personality a superior one.
Personally, I don't buy the reliability of his results or his explanation. No matter how stoic you've become through poker, it's still just one variable: money. There are so many other variables in day to day life that can affect your mood. You'd have to be mentally incapacitated in some way to be constantly shielded from so-called negative emotions.
I cited poker with this being a poker forum, but to be honest poker has been only a fraction of my life in the past 5 years and not the main focus like it used to be. There are experiences in my life, positive and negative ones, that have shaped who I am in that regard, maybe to a greater extent than the constant grind. Also readings like Fooled by Randomness.
Of course these results are to be taken lightly, as they are nowhere near scientific anyway.
Your score for openness was low, at 35%.
Your score for conscientiousness was low, at 48%.
Your score for extraversion was high, at 75%.
Your score for Agreeableness was low, at 28%.
Your score for neuroticism was low, at 23%.
On June 08 2017 21:01 Baalim wrote:
This town is too small for 2 locos... draw your weapons
I was so confused when he made that account. He knew me as iG.Loco on broodwar and obviously he saw the name was taken when he created his LP account and I'm pretty sure he had seen me posting regularly. Anyway, I'll gladly take a name change. I chose my StarCraft name when I was a kid before I was even in high school.
Btw I redid the test (I had done the test a few weeks back and didn't remember the results to post them here) and we have the exact same results for agreeableness and neuroticism. My openness to experience is at 85% which surprised me because I associated that mostly with a need for variety in life and I'm a person with a simple constant routine. But it makes sense when I think more about it, it's not a "wide" openness, it's more narrow because I'm also low in extroversion which limits my options for adventure. There were quite a few questions on art and philosophy which I'm very open to so that explains it. Honestly this test is just just way too short and repetitive though.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
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the cleaner Germany. Jun 09 2017 18:59. Posts 3014
On June 08 2017 21:01 Baalim wrote:
This town is too small for 2 locos... draw your weapons
I was so confused when he made that account. He knew me as iG.Loco on broodwar and obviously he saw the name was taken when he created his LP account and I'm pretty sure he had seen me posting regularly. Anyway, I'll gladly take a name change. I chose my StarCraft name when I was a kid before I was even in high school.
Btw I redid the test (I had done the test a few weeks back and didn't remember the results to post them here) and we have the exact same results for agreeableness and neuroticism. My openness to experience is at 85% which surprised me because I associated that mostly with a need for variety in life and I'm a person with a simple constant routine. But it makes sense when I think more about it, it's not a "wide" openness, it's more narrow because I'm also low in extroversion which limits my options for adventure. There were quite a few questions on art and philosophy which I'm very open to so that explains it. Honestly this test is just just way too short and repetitive though.
I liked your nickname back in iG! The reason I made mine in poker was because I was gonna play super nitty and wanted people to not give me credit. It has played to my disadvantage as time went on. Not sure if I was aware that you carried the same name to poker though, probably was hoping you wouldnt, my bad!
bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Jun 10 2017 06:19. Posts 5296
pseudo psychology 93%
One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beings
Really you guys dont think that a nickname can have any influence in some peoples decisions? Sure it shouldnt influence us pros, but on droolers I think its a given. Maybe not my nickname specifically, but just ask Spewtard, wish I came up with that one.
On June 07 2017 08:01 Baalim wrote:
you had to one-up everybody didnt you?
Only if you judge having a Brave New World, Fordist/soma-induced type of personality a superior one.
Personally, I don't buy the reliability of his results or his explanation. No matter how stoic you've become through poker, it's still just one variable: money. There are so many other variables in day to day life that can affect your mood. You'd have to be mentally incapacitated in some way to be constantly shielded from so-called negative emotions.
On June 07 2017 08:01 Baalim wrote:
you had to one-up everybody didnt you?
Only if you judge having a Brave New World, Fordist/soma-induced type of personality a superior one.
Personally, I don't buy the reliability of his results or his explanation. No matter how stoic you've become through poker, it's still just one variable: money. There are so many other variables in day to day life that can affect your mood. You'd have to be mentally incapacitated in some way to be constantly shielded from so-called negative emotions.
On June 07 2017 08:01 Baalim wrote:
you had to one-up everybody didnt you?
Only if you judge having a Brave New World, Fordist/soma-induced type of personality a superior one.
Personally, I don't buy the reliability of his results or his explanation. No matter how stoic you've become through poker, it's still just one variable: money. There are so many other variables in day to day life that can affect your mood. You'd have to be mentally incapacitated in some way to be constantly shielded from so-called negative emotions.
You know, the guy who can block out fear and stress to the point of being able to climb 3000 foot walls without a rope.
I'm not certain but I dont think daredevil activities are linked with low neuroticism
"Neuroticism is one of the Big Five higher-order personality traits in the study of psychology. Individuals who score high on neuroticism are more likely than average to be moody and to experience such feelings as anxiety, worry, fear, anger, frustration, envy, jealousy, guilt, depressed mood, and loneliness."
Alex shows little to no amygdala activity when given stimuli that excite or disturb other individuals. The amygdala has a primary function in emotional response. So he is able to control everything even when put in impossible situations that others cannot comprehend.
There should be a high correlation between specifically his brain and a lack of neuroticism.
He also surveyed high in premeditation, his typical modus operandi, and very low in neuroticism, making him unlikely to ruminate over unlikely outcomes or risks that are impossible to manage. “If you don’t have any fear to begin with,” Honnold says, “there’s a lot less to control.”
Yet he has higher than some people in this thread. I think having 0% is answering untruthfully or the sign of an improperly functioning brain in some way.
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the test is ridiculously short that will give bad results, I wonder if its just him (Alex) in paticular of a traint in dare-devil personalities, I've known a lot of people in rallying and obv most fall in the dare-devil type but some do seem neurotic
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vasoline73 United States. Jun 13 2017 05:10. Posts 808
Your score for openness was 65%. This is in the moderate range.
Your score for conscientiousness was low, at 45%.
Your score for Extraversion was moderate, at 50%.
Your score for Agreeableness was moderate, at 63%.
Your score for Neuroticism was moderate, at 43%.
Wish I was a little less agreeable in life and perhaps more open.
On June 13 2017 04:29 Loco wrote:
Being more agreeable = being more of a pushover. It really isn't quite as great as most people think it is.
Of the people I know that have scored high in agreeableness its an actual issue and they want to be less agreeable, and I dont know anyone that scores low that wants to be more agreeable
I seriously don't understand how everyone scores so low on neuroticism heh
One of my problems with this test is that I'd probably not give the same answers twice in a row.
The opinion one has for himself is prob not truthful or solid enough not to change a few hours later (eg after eating a meal)
Or I'm just too neurotic -_-
new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...
On June 13 2017 04:29 Loco wrote:
Being more agreeable = being more of a pushover. It really isn't quite as great as most people think it is.
Of the people I know that have scored high in agreeableness its an actual issue and they want to be less agreeable, and I dont know anyone that scores low that wants to be more agreeable
I don't either, people I know want to stick to what they know is best for them and not be influenced by the status quo, marketers, etc... but I mean, those who say they want to be more agreeable probably think that due to a misunderstanding of the trait (they think it's inherently positive and makes life better). They don't realize its dangers. In reality, it just makes it harder to be a healthy, self-disciplined individual.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
On June 13 2017 12:16 lebowski wrote:
I seriously don't understand how everyone scores so low on neuroticism heh
One of my problems with this test is that I'd probably not give the same answers twice in a row.
The opinion one has for himself is prob not truthful or solid enough not to change a few hours later (eg after eating a meal)
Or I'm just too neurotic -_-
I think I would rank much higher if I wasn't living my life how I want it now. The fact that it's that low is just because I structured my life in a way that makes it hard for me to have mood swings. I probably would never rank mid-high to high but if I had to play poker for a living for instance it would be completely different, I would be frustrated frequently and it would bleed into other aspects of my life as it used to.
I dunno about the others but I did the test a few times and my neuroticism stayed low and I'm being as objective as I can. A good indicator that I'm objective (I think) is that for instance, despite living with my girlfriend and being together pretty much all day every day, in the last 5 years I haven't yelled or gotten really angry at her once, except one time where, funnily enough, I actually forced myself to do so to calm her down. My girlfriend was actually annoyed that I never got visibly upset about anything and she started to use it against me. (She'd made passive-aggressive remarks about how I'm detached from things and how I must have been feeling superior to her who gets upset frequently). So one day where she was having one of her awful days, she angrily (but accidentally) did something that seemed like it could have physically hurt me, but I was fine. I used it as an opportunity to show her I wasn't detached. I acted as if she had physically hurt me and powerfully/angrily pushed away the thing she had shoved into me and yelled at her. I didn't feel angry and I knew I was acting convincingly but she got scared and calmed down immediately and never did this again. Usually it would take her a while to calm herself down on her own. I wasn't conscious of it at the time but I remembered it was something that I think Epictetus recommended you do in this kind of scenario where someone abuses your tranquil nature and I had never had the opportunity to try it before that. The next day my girlfriend basically said she had never known I had this kind of anger inside of me and she didn't want to trigger it by acting carelessly now.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
Even if that sounds manipulative I think its important to even act it as you did, I think in relationships when someone is considerably more moody than the other they feel like their partner is detached and will probe over and over to get a reaction, perhaps is not really that they feel you are detached but they feel inadequate unless you show "flaws" in that regard like they do.
It seems to be manipulative, but I think it's the opposite: the person who is being passive-aggressive is the one trying to manipulate you. They want to bring you down to their level, for lack of a better explanation. Their self-esteem has been hurt because you seem to be "above it all" and they aren't. My reaction was not calculated and it wasn't like common manipulation which is selfish, I just felt annoyed at the time and simply exaggerated my feelings to defuse the situation so that both of us would benefit from it.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
United States. Jun 04 2017 04:29. Posts 8522
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