- Felipe Arantes was expected to face Iuri Alcantara at the event. However on May 11, Arantes was pulled from the fight due to undisclosed reasons and was replaced by promotional newcomer Brian Kelleher on the same day.
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PuertoRican United States. May 29 2017 00:45. Posts 13044
If Max wins he is a god. I would start lobbying for him to fight McGregor again then. Still believe in Aldo though his last performance vs. Edgar was pretty nuts.
Aldo is a monster his only loss in like eleven years was vs Mcgregor and he fought like an idiot, Hollaway is really good but I think he is not the no1 IMO mendes and Edgar could take him, I think Aldo by decision. A lot of people thought Edgar would win in UFC 200 and Aldo fought really good and smart.
My bets:
- Aldo + gadelha (2.48) 20 bucks to win 49.6
- Assuncao (2.5) 20 bucks to win 50
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PuertoRican United States. May 30 2017 17:08. Posts 13044
Marco Beltran is dropping from 135 to 125 for this fight. He was already considered a tall + long 135`er. His opponent is a Brazilian making his UFC debut in Brazil.
#1 It will probably stay standing.
#2 I don't think its likely for either guy to get a KO before the late rounds. Holloway seems like one of the hardest guy to finish ever , and he doesn't have the KO power to stop Aldo imo.
I think the standup will be competitive, but potentially be a let down. I don't believe it will turn into a brawl or anything like that, probably technical stuff.
Now on who wins... its a bit hard to say. The last Aldo we saw was absolutly amazing, and i do think this Aldo will show up.
But Holloway will have height/reach advantage, youth, and is a really tough mother fucker with tons of heart, and we aren't exactly sure yet how good he really is.
At current odds, even odds, i would personally bet on Aldo, but i don't really think its an easy bet at all.
On May 31 2017 03:14 Floofy wrote:
But Holloway will have height/reach advantage
Aldo has the reach advantage.
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Minsk United States. May 31 2017 21:52. Posts 1558
I completely switched to Aldo after hearing it was in Rio De Janeiro..
I think Max Holloway will have a very hard time winning, basically has to dominate Aldo in Brazil to win.
On May 31 2017 20:52 Minsk wrote:
I completely switched to Aldo after hearing it was in Rio De Janeiro..
I think Max Holloway will have a very hard time winning, basically has to dominate Aldo in Brazil to win.
oh shit that's a great argument... i don't see Holloway "dominating" Aldo.
On May 31 2017 20:52 Minsk wrote:
I completely switched to Aldo after hearing it was in Rio De Janeiro..
I think Max Holloway will have a very hard time winning, basically has to dominate Aldo in Brazil to win.
the old "brazilian judges" random argument hahah
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PuertoRican United States. Jun 01 2017 19:04. Posts 13044
If any of you are interested in betting the Aldo vs. Holloway fight, I'll take Holloway.
My terms:
• $50
• You take Aldo, I take Holloway
• Even odds (+100/+100) with a twist: I give you +100 on Aldo, but if Holloway loses by split-decision, our bet is a push/cancelled. All other methods of victory will be normal/standard
• Money sent via PayPal
• I'm only making 1 bet, and the person who accepts my bet needs to be a LP.net regular, not a new person
The thing about Aldo is that his style is just perfect for facing wrestlers/grapplers.
Also he is usually the bigger guy in the cage, giving him the ability to control the fight with his jab/leg kicks. Combine that with his insane takedown defence and athleticism he is just a nightmare for this stocky short wrestlers that he has made a career of beating up.
Everytime he has faced a striking based opponent though he has looked less than stellar. He was getting outboxed in many exchanges by Hominick , had to resort to his takedowns against Korean Zombie and even then looked bad in this fight before Zombie disclocated his shoulder and then He got KO'd stiff by Conor in 13 seconds.
Holloway has been on a really impressive run and has been improving constantly every fight. In his last fights he has looked like a killer against some tough opposition. But even that aside he is just a terrible match up for Aldo, just like Mcgregor is. Tall, rangy and diverse striker with decent ground game. I see him overhelming Aldo with his pressure and volume at some point and putting a beating on him en route to decision or late stoppage.
On June 01 2017 18:04 PuertoRican wrote:
If any of you are interested in betting the Aldo vs. Holloway fight, I'll take Holloway.
My terms:
• $50
• You take Aldo, I take Holloway
• Even odds (+100/+100) with a twist: I give you +100 on Aldo, but if Holloway loses by split-decision, our bet is a push/cancelled. All other methods of victory will be normal/standard
• Money sent via PayPal
• I'm only making 1 bet, and the person who accepts my bet needs to be a LP.net regular, not a new person
Ok im taking ur bet. I agree to the terms.
50 US$ on paypal.
james9994: make note dont play against floofy, ;(
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PuertoRican United States. Jun 02 2017 02:38. Posts 13044
On June 01 2017 18:04 PuertoRican wrote:
If any of you are interested in betting the Aldo vs. Holloway fight, I'll take Holloway.
My terms:
• $50
• You take Aldo, I take Holloway
• Even odds (+100/+100) with a twist: I give you +100 on Aldo, but if Holloway loses by split-decision, our bet is a push/cancelled. All other methods of victory will be normal/standard
• Money sent via PayPal
• I'm only making 1 bet, and the person who accepts my bet needs to be a LP.net regular, not a new person
Ok im taking ur bet. I agree to the terms.
50 US$ on paypal.
TianYuan Korea (South). Jun 02 2017 10:56. Posts 6817
On June 01 2017 20:22 northsails wrote:
The thing about Aldo is that his style is just perfect for facing wrestlers/grapplers.
Also he is usually the bigger guy in the cage, giving him the ability to control the fight with his jab/leg kicks. Combine that with his insane takedown defence and athleticism he is just a nightmare for this stocky short wrestlers that he has made a career of beating up.
Everytime he has faced a striking based opponent though he has looked less than stellar. He was getting outboxed in many exchanges by Hominick , had to resort to his takedowns against Korean Zombie and even then looked bad in this fight before Zombie disclocated his shoulder and then He got KO'd stiff by Conor in 13 seconds.
Holloway has been on a really impressive run and has been improving constantly every fight. In his last fights he has looked like a killer against some tough opposition. But even that aside he is just a terrible match up for Aldo, just like Mcgregor is. Tall, rangy and diverse striker with decent ground game. I see him overhelming Aldo with his pressure and volume at some point and putting a beating on him en route to decision or late stoppage.
Didn't Aldo break something in the KZ fight? IIRC he turned into wrestler-Aldo because of a broken hand or something like that...?
Hominick fight was so long ago but only part I remember him doing poorly was in the last round (even though Hominick's face looked like he'd been stung by the worlds biggest bee at that point as far as I can remember). Wasn't he quite sick for that fight as well?
Don't mean to be making excuses because I don't necessarily disagree with your overall point, just some details.
guess aldo will get smashed if its the same aldo pre mcgregor post wec
but he looked better in his last frankie edgar fight, maybe he got extra motivation after mcgregor trauma
can see the fight going either way, its a hard one to predict. hope aldo looks sharp and wins. if he wins there is literally nothing left for him at fw, he would have to move up or just make superfights.
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PuertoRican United States. Jun 02 2017 17:54. Posts 13044
On June 01 2017 20:22 northsails wrote:
The thing about Aldo is that his style is just perfect for facing wrestlers/grapplers.
Also he is usually the bigger guy in the cage, giving him the ability to control the fight with his jab/leg kicks. Combine that with his insane takedown defence and athleticism he is just a nightmare for this stocky short wrestlers that he has made a career of beating up.
Everytime he has faced a striking based opponent though he has looked less than stellar. He was getting outboxed in many exchanges by Hominick , had to resort to his takedowns against Korean Zombie and even then looked bad in this fight before Zombie disclocated his shoulder and then He got KO'd stiff by Conor in 13 seconds.
Holloway has been on a really impressive run and has been improving constantly every fight. In his last fights he has looked like a killer against some tough opposition. But even that aside he is just a terrible match up for Aldo, just like Mcgregor is. Tall, rangy and diverse striker with decent ground game. I see him overhelming Aldo with his pressure and volume at some point and putting a beating on him en route to decision or late stoppage.
Didn't Aldo break something in the KZ fight? IIRC he turned into wrestler-Aldo because of a broken hand or something like that...?
It was Korean Zombie who dislocated his shoulder when throwing a punch, which allowed Aldo to get the finish once he saw KZ holding his own arm.
Aside from the KZ injury, Aldo hasn't won ITD since nearly 5.5 years ago, and only one true finish in the last 6.5 years (against Chad Mendes). Even the Mendes finish was interesting, as there was like 10 seconds left in the round and he turned around real fast and ran into a knee. Most guys back up and separate themselves nowadays when they're in the same spot Mendes was in.
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PuertoRican United States. Jun 02 2017 18:01. Posts 13044
Jose Aldo (145) vs. Max Holloway (145)
Claudia Gadelha (116) vs. Karolina Kowalkiewicz (115)
Vitor Belfort (185) vs. Nate Marquardt (186)
Paulo Henrique Costa (186) vs. Oluwale Bamgbose (184)
Erick Silva (171) vs. Yancy Medeiros (171)
Raphael Assuncao (136) vs. Marlon Moraes (136)
Antonio Carlos Junior (185) vs. Eric Spicely (184)
Johnny Eduardo (136) vs. Matthew Lopez (136)
Iuri Alcantara (136) vs. Brian Kelleher (134)
Viviane Pereira (113) vs. Jamie Moyle (116)
Luan Chagas (171) vs. Jim Wallhead (170)
Marco Beltran (126) vs. Deiveson Alcantara (126)
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Stim_Abuser United States. Jun 03 2017 01:12. Posts 7499
On June 01 2017 20:22 northsails wrote:
The thing about Aldo is that his style is just perfect for facing wrestlers/grapplers.
Also he is usually the bigger guy in the cage, giving him the ability to control the fight with his jab/leg kicks. Combine that with his insane takedown defence and athleticism he is just a nightmare for this stocky short wrestlers that he has made a career of beating up.
Everytime he has faced a striking based opponent though he has looked less than stellar. He was getting outboxed in many exchanges by Hominick , had to resort to his takedowns against Korean Zombie and even then looked bad in this fight before Zombie disclocated his shoulder and then He got KO'd stiff by Conor in 13 seconds.
Holloway has been on a really impressive run and has been improving constantly every fight. In his last fights he has looked like a killer against some tough opposition. But even that aside he is just a terrible match up for Aldo, just like Mcgregor is. Tall, rangy and diverse striker with decent ground game. I see him overhelming Aldo with his pressure and volume at some point and putting a beating on him en route to decision or late stoppage.
Didn't Aldo break something in the KZ fight? IIRC he turned into wrestler-Aldo because of a broken hand or something like that...?
Hominick fight was so long ago but only part I remember him doing poorly was in the last round (even though Hominick's face looked like he'd been stung by the worlds biggest bee at that point as far as I can remember). Wasn't he quite sick for that fight as well?
Don't mean to be making excuses because I don't necessarily disagree with your overall point, just some details.
And I obviously really want Aldo to win ; [
Aldo broke his foot in the first kick of the KZ fight.
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Minsk United States. Jun 03 2017 20:35. Posts 1558
I just have
Gadelha ML
Aldo ML
Marquardt ML
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PuertoRican United States. Jun 03 2017 22:46. Posts 13044
Yea mixed feelings about that stoppage. Although it looked early, Silva's body was numb when he fell which makes me thing he was out so I'm okay with the stoppage.
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PuertoRican United States. Jun 04 2017 03:38. Posts 13044
On June 04 2017 02:30 Raidern wrote:
Yea mixed feelings about that stoppage. Although it looked early, Silva's body was numb when he fell which makes me thing he was out so I'm okay with the stoppage.
That's how he always looks when he gets knocked down. Luan Chagas knocked him down twice in their fight, and Silva looked stunned before recovering.
Surprised that referee stopped it that early, especially in Brazil. He probably isn't aware of Silva being easy to KD, but also being able to recover just fine.
wtf was I thinking as soon as I saw Hollowen opening his arms taunting Aldo I was like shit... Aldo is going to get sucked into a high paced striking fight and is going to collapse.
All these years I've thought that Aldo not throwing kicks vs wrestlers was somewhat an excuse and he simply doesnt throw them anymore he convinced himself he is a counterpunching boxer with good takedown defense and he isnt
Also why did Mccarthy allow Holloway to punch him in the back of the head when he had his back just before the stoppage?
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PuertoRican United States. Jun 04 2017 05:45. Posts 13044
On June 04 2017 04:37 Baalim wrote:
Also why did Mccarthy allow Holloway to punch him in the back of the head when he had his back just before the stoppage?
I was looking at that as well.
Max did it so much that I was able to pay attention and noticed they were soft punches, if that. Maybe to get Aldo to keep moving his face to the right side where Max's power was going to. Max wasn't winding up and landing to the back of his head, so maybe that was why Big John didn't say anything, dunno.
Either way, it doesn't take away from Max's victory, at least not in my opinion. He was going to keep bringing the heat and Aldo was low on energy after all that ground work.
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PuertoRican United States. Jun 04 2017 05:51. Posts 13044
On June 03 2017 22:42 PuertoRican wrote:
Invested $108, won $144, profited $36.
The key to scoring big was Keller, but I only had him in 1 team and had Alcantara (the guy he beat) in multiple. I won't complain though, since I get raped on PPVs most of the time.
Also received an additional $50 from that bet with Floofy on the main event.
The next card is UFC Fight Night 110: Derrick Lewis vs. Mark Hunt, which takes place in one week from today in New Zealand
On June 04 2017 04:37 Baalim wrote:
Also why did Mccarthy allow Holloway to punch him in the back of the head when he had his back just before the stoppage?
I was looking at that as well.
Max did it so much that I was able to pay attention and noticed they were soft punches, if that. Maybe to get Aldo to keep moving his face to the right side where Max's power was going to. Max wasn't winding up and landing to the back of his head, so maybe that was why Big John didn't say anything, dunno.
Either way, it doesn't take away from Max's victory, at least not in my opinion. He was going to keep bringing the heat and Aldo was low on energy after all that ground work.
Oh yeah if anything it saved Aldo more punishment, he clearly was too tired and he was going to get mauled
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Stim_Abuser United States. Jun 04 2017 06:07. Posts 7499
Holloway is an absolute monster. I'd love to see the Conor rematch, shame it'll never happen.
Frankie vs Holloway will be dope.
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I'm actually happy to see Aldo lose the belt again, he went from being an fun and aggro leg kicker to a boring defensive fighter who cruised to decisions and for some reason never kicked again.
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TianYuan Korea (South). Jun 04 2017 11:49. Posts 6817
I have no idea why I feel so god damn horrible when Aldo loses but it just makes me depressed.
Hm.. Off-suite socks..
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Stim_Abuser United States. Jun 04 2017 19:48. Posts 7499
On June 04 2017 09:24 Baalim wrote:
I'm actually happy to see Aldo lose the belt again, he went from being an fun and aggro leg kicker to a boring defensive fighter who cruised to decisions and for some reason never kicked again.
To be fair he was pretty aggressive in this fight. I can't believe Max shrugged off that first round Combo + knee so easily. That finishes anyone else at FW imo besides maybe Frankie and Holloway wasn't even phased.
One of the best chins ever. In his first fight with Conor, Conor landed some beautiful left hands that Holloway also just shrugged off like nothing. And that was before Conor hurt his ACL.
I was rooting for Aldo simply because I really wanted to see Aldo move up to 155 and fight Ferguson for interim and hopefully winner fight Conor.
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On June 04 2017 09:24 Baalim wrote:
I'm actually happy to see Aldo lose the belt again, he went from being an fun and aggro leg kicker to a boring defensive fighter who cruised to decisions and for some reason never kicked again.
To be fair he was pretty aggressive in this fight. I can't believe Max shrugged off that first round Combo + knee so easily. That finishes anyone else at FW imo besides maybe Frankie and Holloway wasn't even phased.
One of the best chins ever. In his first fight with Conor, Conor landed some beautiful left hands that Holloway also just shrugged off like nothing. And that was before Conor hurt his ACL.
I was rooting for Aldo simply because I really wanted to see Aldo move up to 155 and fight Ferguson for interim and hopefully winner fight Conor.
More aggresive than his usual but still no kicks he threw one, ate a punch that was still less damaging than the kick and never did it again and gassed so fast, I think Aldo is just done and in steep physical decline
holloway can take a punch like a champ, conor couldn't KO the guy but he clearly put the fear in his eyes to this day beating him up on one leg (hurt his knee in round 2). in interviews he's not even remotely excited with asking for a rematch lol
i like him for his honesty really
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iakim322 United States. Jun 05 2017 21:37. Posts 1335
Yea I'm sure he's so fearful of that potential 10x career best payday that would come with fighting Conor
If I were a fighter and wanted to play it smart i'd want a slower buildup to a conor match rather than rush into it, lesser upside in your career and pocket. Ferguson is playing it very well, he knows if he keeps fighting other guys and beating them hes in for a potentially bigger payday than even Nate
If the fight vs Mayweather materializes he is only going to take superfights at the weightclass he wants so indeed the best way to fight him is to actually become a legend yourself
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PuertoRican United States. Jun 08 2017 05:21. Posts 13044
It was his first time judging MMA, and he scored 2 fights on the UFC 212 card. Both fights had controversial decisions and Iorio is the judge who decided to give the win to the fighter who most people thought lost the fight.
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