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Baalim   Mexico. Apr 20 2017 07:06. Posts 34246

Hey guys so I've never played outside of PokerStars so I decided I'm going to try to fish in some less piranha infested waters, but I have no clue, what are some good sites with juicy player pools? (200nl +)

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Zografa   Bulgaria. Apr 20 2017 12:38. Posts 962

Dont you have access to bodog?

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Apr 21 2017 15:16. Posts 9634

Environment seems to be the same everywhere now. Even in sites like bet365 the fish to reg ratio is fucking terrible, and you have 0% rb the first 4 months there .. and that was probably the best place to play the last few years.

Not to mention that the traffic at 200nl++ outside PS is kind of slow. Hell I've had problems with 100nl traffic even.

P.S. 200nl+ is based on observation as I haven't really an amount that matters there, but I've spent some time observing the traffic and population.

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Baalim   Mexico. Apr 21 2017 23:26. Posts 34246

200nl on stars is fishy, 500nl is very rough

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handbanana21   United States. Apr 22 2017 10:39. Posts 3037


  On April 21 2017 22:26 Baalim wrote:
200nl on stars is fishy, 500nl is very rough



then why leave stars? just print at 200.


Baalim   Mexico. Apr 22 2017 11:06. Posts 34246


  On April 22 2017 09:39 handbanana21 wrote:
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then why leave stars? just print at 200.


Because I may find even softer games or perhaps higher softer games.. duh

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lucky331   . Apr 22 2017 11:55. Posts 1124

pacific poker?


ToT)MidiaN(    United Kingdom. Apr 22 2017 12:06. Posts 5070

Softer games doesn't necessarily equal higher $/hour though. At least with Stars you never have to worry about finding games, you can instantly sit in and get 4 200nl zoom tables running. I can't speak for any US sites, but Euro sites for zoom specifically don't run higher than 100 in my experience, and even then, they only really run at certain hours of the day and with a small pool at that. There's a few more non zoom tables running, but I'm not sure how good they are and you get way less hands/hr so I'm not sure if you end up with higher $/hr. If you're printing at 200 zoom stars, I think you'll be hard pushed to do better elsewhere except for specific hours of the day when there might be the odd juicy 5/10 game running on some other site. Probably no harm in splitting the roll, playing stars as normal when nothing good is going on other sites then jumping in when something good pops up?

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handbanana21   United States. Apr 22 2017 18:41. Posts 3037


  On April 22 2017 10:06 Baalim wrote:
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Because I may find even softer games or perhaps higher softer games.. duh



what type of winrate do you think u could roll off at 200 on stars. zoom or non zoom. Im not trying to insult you, I just know the reg pool very well and i dont think your claim is accurate.

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Baalim   Mexico. Apr 23 2017 00:32. Posts 34246


  On April 22 2017 11:06 ToT)MidiaN( wrote:
Softer games doesn't necessarily equal higher $/hour though. At least with Stars you never have to worry about finding games, you can instantly sit in and get 4 200nl zoom tables running. I can't speak for any US sites, but Euro sites for zoom specifically don't run higher than 100 in my experience, and even then, they only really run at certain hours of the day and with a small pool at that. There's a few more non zoom tables running, but I'm not sure how good they are and you get way less hands/hr so I'm not sure if you end up with higher $/hr. If you're printing at 200 zoom stars, I think you'll be hard pushed to do better elsewhere except for specific hours of the day when there might be the odd juicy 5/10 game running on some other site. Probably no harm in splitting the roll, playing stars as normal when nothing good is going on other sites then jumping in when something good pops up?



yeah the plan would be to mix, I mean if there isnt anything I can play stars and as good spots open start closing the stars tables.

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Baalim   Mexico. Apr 23 2017 00:35. Posts 34246


  On April 22 2017 17:41 handbanana21 wrote:
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what type of winrate do you think u could roll off at 200 on stars. zoom or non zoom. Im not trying to insult you, I just know the reg pool very well and i dont think your claim is accurate.



Well I mean its an absolutely subjective claim, usually the fish/reg ration in 500nl zoom is 7/1 and in 200nl its about 3.5/1 and the lower regs (that dont go to 500nl) are considerably weaker, but I dont know what winrate I could pull but its very easy to tell that for me that its much softer than 500nl

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Ryan Neilly   United States. Apr 23 2017 10:28. Posts 1631

natural8 is very soft. gotta be outside USA to play there though. GL


Garfed   Malta. Apr 24 2017 16:43. Posts 4818

Give it one more month and half the people will be moving to Partypoker for new rakeback system


Baalim   Mexico. Apr 25 2017 06:14. Posts 34246


  On April 20 2017 11:38 Zografa wrote:
Dont you have access to bodog?



why wouldnt I is it US only?

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Baalim   Mexico. Apr 25 2017 06:15. Posts 34246

what about Americas Card Room?

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Garfed   Malta. Apr 25 2017 09:20. Posts 4818


  On April 25 2017 05:15 Baalim wrote:
what about Americas Card Room?



quite fishy I've heard, a ton of good action especially for Omaha. Few people from LP play there, maybe someone will share more info.


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Apr 25 2017 13:29. Posts 9634


  On April 23 2017 09:28 Ryan Neilly wrote:
natural8 is very soft. gotta be outside USA to play there though. GL


I'm about 90% certain this one is rigged. I've played about 50k hands there and experienced the most unbelievable run I've ever had. Games are so soft that I ran like shit and still managed to turn profit at 50 and 100nl, by shit I mean imagine win:lose ratio for 200+bb pots ratio to be 1:4 or something like that. However it did feel like it was rigged to maximize rake and keep shortstacking fishes in play. I do not say such thing lightly, I've played around many sites, I feel like microgaming network for example is the most legit ever compared to natural8

Also there is no HUD there, but you dont even need one. There s a lot of money in the all in or fold tables there, if someone manages to develope a good strategy he could crush the game hard as chinese players just shove 80% randomly

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Fayth    Canada. Apr 25 2017 13:59. Posts 10085

ACR isn't that great although it's okay, lots of grinder because it's the only site nowadays where you can be a rakeback pro with this thing they have called "the beast" along with the 27% rakeback

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handbanana21   United States. Apr 25 2017 14:11. Posts 3037

My acr account was hacked for 10k and they accused me of trying to scam them over the phone. They closed my account and gave me the run around for over a month before i gave up.


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