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RiKD    United States. Feb 21 2017 17:27. Posts 8430

Why do you get up in the morning? What is your purpose?

What gifts do you have? Are you utilizing these talents?

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Feb 21 2017 18:50. Posts 9634

I was gonna write about how knowing that I ll die is a good reason and its all about attitude, but when I think about it its a person's environment that matters more. Like if i had no friends I'd probably see death as a reason to give up on everything.

While its true that a person's cast of mind should be the fundamental of his being and everything else is built upon it, I think there comes a time when everything else is too connected to just disregard as a factor. Its only a matter of time that a person will fail while motivating himself only from within. , unless he finds a comfortable environment. Or I might be just too weak minded to think so, don't know, its what works for me though

 Last edit: 21/02/2017 18:52

uiCk   Canada. Feb 21 2017 19:05. Posts 3521

Work, make money, enjoy leisure time. Repeat.

I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson 

hiems   United States. Feb 21 2017 19:27. Posts 2979

hungry/want to taste food/taste morning coffee/enjoy sip of wine, need to piss, bored of sleeping need to move/ thirsty need a drink of water/ need to get shit done.

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ClouD87   Italy. Feb 21 2017 19:43. Posts 524

To troll and trigger as many people as possible. Is there any higher purpose than that?


SleepyHead   . Feb 21 2017 22:23. Posts 878

My girlfriend wakes me up with her blow-dryer, or the cat jumps on me for breakfast

Dude you some social darwinist ideas that they are giving hitlers ghost a boner - Baal 

devon06atX   Canada. Feb 21 2017 23:16. Posts 5458

I knew this thread seemed way too familiar

https://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-for...Life,_Meaning_in_Meaninglessness.html


waga   United Kingdom. Feb 21 2017 23:20. Posts 2375

because I'm awake


uiCk   Canada. Feb 21 2017 23:51. Posts 3521


  On February 21 2017 21:23 SleepyHead wrote:
My girlfriend wakes me up with her blow-dryer, or the cat jumps on me for breakfast


Obvious brag post about having a cat

I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson 

redrain0125   Canada. Feb 22 2017 00:08. Posts 5455

you may be depressed


RiKD    United States. Feb 22 2017 03:19. Posts 8430

I don't know why I made this thread. I was just reading a book that touched on purpose and I was curious and wanted to have a discussion. I like a lot of the replies. I am similar to many. I get up in the morning because I do. I can only sleep so much. My cats want food. Some people with this purpose bullshit. Yeah, nice to have buddy, you delusional cunt. My purpose is to go to heaven. Fuck off cult shithead cuntface. My purpose is to grow the biggest and best multinational corporation in the world. Shit fuck fag pussy ass bitch having ass and tits fool.

The gifts maybe a little more interesting or not. I honestly do not know what gifts I possess which is probably part of my wandering hububaloo nature. I just made hububaloo up but I feel it represents a good part of my nature almost perfectly.There are some strengths and weaknesses to that surely.


jeremy5408   United States. Feb 22 2017 05:08. Posts 122

on saturday/sundays i wake up pleasantly without a single worry. i do some wimhoff and some novice mindfulness meditation. i then stretch/do yoga. this is around a 2-2.5 hour process but i feel completely decompressed wiht my mind and body. like a slinky that's now a string ready to take on whatever shape the day needs it to be.

and then i go work out (looking to hit 400 squat by the end of the year).

on weekdays i wake up at around 6:30 and try to get to work by 8. and this process is pretty mindless/robotic. once im at work though, i do this 5 minute journaling exercise which helps prep the day to do things that are meaningful/instill some gratitude.

keep making posts rikd. i think i feel the same fleeting, cyclical, emptiness you do.

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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 22 2017 05:26. Posts 34246

Exist to ultimately cease to

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lucky331   . Feb 22 2017 05:53. Posts 1124


  On February 21 2017 16:27 RiKD wrote:
Why do you get up in the morning?



no idea. i just do.


  What is your purpose?



no idea.


  What gifts do you have?



honestly none.


  Are you utilizing these talents?



no talent.


dnagardi   Hungary. Feb 22 2017 09:07. Posts 1776


  On February 21 2017 21:23 SleepyHead wrote:
My girlfriend wakes me up with her blow-dryer, or the cat jumps on me for breakfast



sickest tilt every morning? that cant be nice


JohnnyBologna   United States. Feb 22 2017 09:25. Posts 1401

I live for blowjobs.

On a more intellectual note, if i had to put my feelings into words as best as i can... money.

No seriously tho, to grow man. The one thing that makes people happy the most in this world is to grow. Whether im growing my lvl 47 character, growing my bankroll, growing my knowledge, raising my kid, it makes me happy when i have purpose to improve and grow.

Just do whats right 

PuertoRican   United States. Feb 22 2017 10:22. Posts 13023


  On February 21 2017 16:27 RiKD wrote:
Why do you get up in the morning? What is your purpose?

What gifts do you have? Are you utilizing these talents?


Why do you get up in the morning?
I get up in the morning to go pee and then head to school.

What is your purpose?
My purpose is to give children the same opportunities in school that I was given as a child.

What gifts do you have?
I'm a pretty good writer when I'm focused. For example, my technical writing is pretty decent, as is my poetry and general essay writing.

Are you utilizing these talents?
Yes, several times throughout the week.

Rekrul is a newb 

Loco   Canada. Feb 22 2017 14:20. Posts 20963


  On February 21 2017 16:27 RiKD wrote:
Why do you get up in the morning?



Because the alternative is worse.


  What is your purpose?



To not live in regret.


  What gifts do you have?



I'm very introspective and have a willingness and capacity to look past my own selfish needs and self-serving beliefs to look for the truth and what can serve others.


  Are you utilizing these talents?



Too much when it comes to introspection. It's probably better and more useful not to be constantly engaged in it. Thinking a lot doesn't go too well with living.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccountLast edit: 22/02/2017 14:20

DooMeR   United States. Feb 22 2017 16:45. Posts 8544


  On February 21 2017 16:27 RiKD wrote:
Why do you get up in the morning? What is your purpose?

What gifts do you have? Are you utilizing these talents?



1) why not?
2) enjoying the journey
3)not sure.
4) probably. I dont value utilizing my talents as inherent meaning. Not using them would not make my life any less meaningful than it is already. Or more meaningless for the pessimistic ^_^. Should I choose to do something else. What if I'm good at certain things. So i only want to engage in activities that challenge me. Because I find bringing up my other characteristics being the most fun way to enjoy this time I have.

Inherent meaning in life is something I think is kinda silly. It lends itself towards mystical karma type talk. Life is what you make it. Make it meaningful according to whatever you choose to value.
The idea of purpose being something to be found. I think is kind of peoples inner childs grasping for the hand of the universe as a paternal figure. Trying to see what it has to give them. As if it brought you into existence so it must also have designed a path.
Purpose, in my view, has to be something completely arbitrary in a sense. However where I think people fuck up is thinking something arbitrary is less valuable than something inherent.

Another way of putting it is when I was 17-22 i went through a huge transition where I went from fairly religious to full on atheist. Now believing there is no divine entity. Up until 17 I felt fulfillment in life as far as it being worth the journey. Fulfillment being the key word. The feeling of having appreciated
it for what it was. Now. No longer being under the veil of a higher power. Nothing has changed. The ability to feel fulfillment is 100% still there. The universe is the same universe. I experienced it before. I'll continue to, because it doesn't matter if an inherent purpose exists or not. The ability to
feel value. Is and will always be a construct of ourselves. And it will keep being a thing whether it is inherent or arbitrarily assigned by ourselves. The universe we currently exist in. Exists in only one state. Certain things are true and certain things aren't. What we want to believe and what we don't want to believe. Affects no one but our own minds. You can't make something true that isn't and you can't make something false that is true. Whether inherent meaning in life exists or not. Is actually a waste of time. And why I don't like philosophical talks that much. Because if it is there. Its completely irrelevant that we think about it because if such a thing existed. There would be nothing you could do to avoid it anyway. And most likely it doesn't exist. So finding fulfillment in the end will always just be point of view. #rambles

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Nitewin   United States. Feb 22 2017 18:05. Posts 1539

Live to experience every breath you're given. There's beauty in every facet of the universe no matter how microscopic or how grand, or abstract. There is simply not enough time in a lifetime to explore all the worlds out there.

Don't worry about "having a purpose" or "utilizing your talents." Those are just generic advice people throw at you. While they may have value, the moment you start living for someone else's expectations you step into an endless loop of never being enough. Live for yourself. Slow down, turn off your mind, and try to feel what direction joy lies. Then try to move closer and closer towards that direction.

99.9% of people don't realize how crazy the world is. The layers of the Earth, space, magnetic fields, life, math, different species, DNA, fire, electricity, weather, computers, internet, fucking everything. I currently fascinate myself with equity markets.

Money is just an enabler to explore worlds that aren't within arms reach. If you have no money, there's still plenty to explore around you. If you're locked in a cell for life, there's still plenty to explore. Some spend a lifetime studying the game of chess and they don't even need pieces or a board! This is a man-made game too!


lebowski   Greece. Feb 22 2017 22:34. Posts 9205

music mostly

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

VanDerMeyde   Norway. Feb 22 2017 22:45. Posts 5108

Isildur1 sometimes

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iakim322   United States. Feb 22 2017 23:58. Posts 1335


  On February 22 2017 08:25 JohnnyBologna wrote:

No seriously tho, to grow man. The one thing that makes people happy the most in this world is to grow. Whether im growing my lvl 47 character, growing my bankroll, growing my knowledge, raising my kid, it makes me happy when i have purpose to improve and grow.



This is the most relate-able answer for me. You get up to grow. I've kinda always had chronic, intense swings of feeling passion about what I'm doing in life...to the down moments of feeling basically dead inside about how fulfilled I'll feel even when I get done with accomplishing whatever I'm doing. Personally going through a phase of that right now but you can always try to handle it better by looking for growth. Doesn't have to be life altering, exterior things. Maybe try to honestly look at yourself and try to pick out an aspect of your personality that could need work or improvement. Or maybe a relationship with a family member or friend that you feel you've taken for granted and could need some more conscious effort

Beyond that, sometimes I find value in what I used to think of as some hippy bullshit. Like actually taking to heart quotes made by known, successful people. For me, it can be uhm...humbling (not sure if that's the right description) to know that far more intelligent, worldly people than I could ever hope to be have been ticking along in their rise in life...valuing what would typically just be deemed as some generic stuff. Until you really take it to heart

Like a semi recent example for me comes from the world of sports.



Maybe this could have the opposite effect in that it might make you feel insignificant, but I also found watching Carl Sagan's Cosmos (along with 9484274597 other people) awhile back and just generally listening to his shit to be valuable for philosophy. The world is a gigantic fucking place. Take heart in knowing that humanity's quest for overall knowledge has no real finite end. Shit is that actually depressing?

On a more temporary basis, go out and buy yourself a great pair of headphones, load up your favorite playlist, and just let music take you away. There's been an increasing amount of studies done about the actual physiological connection of happiness that music can lend to a person. Psychadelic drugs may or may not be involved


iakim322   United States. Feb 23 2017 00:43. Posts 1335

Oh. Another generic and obv not for everyone but having a dog has helped me tremendously


jeremy5408   United States. Feb 25 2017 01:56. Posts 122


  On February 22 2017 23:43 iakim322 wrote:
Oh. Another generic and obv not for everyone but having a dog has helped me tremendously



i feel so stupid acknowledging how much my roommates dog makes an impact on my mental health


sniderstyle   United States. Feb 25 2017 02:35. Posts 2046

i get up in the morning, usually hungover...crawl to work miserable -- then drink late into the night

Genginho: lose today 100 dollar only because of fishs they called and had luck on river 

sniderstyle   United States. Feb 25 2017 02:42. Posts 2046

but honestly, i exists cause im addicted to find out the world we live in. I read incessantly about the nature of consciousness. I started reading Buddhists ideas from 2500 BC, i compare them with Christianity. I guess lately, I've been trying to find the meaning of life through meditation and reading. I send my time playing poker, working - - waste time with friends - but I have a massive pirated ebook library with over 100,000 books that i could never possible read in my life I started by reading topics I was interested in but I found it way more satisfying to force my self to open books at random, literally closing my eyes and clicking on random ebooks. Then I read the first few chapters and the final chapters, if I find something interesting in that book - i explore more on youtube and just follow it down the rabbit hole until I pick up a new book. For me, that keeps me interested.

Genginho: lose today 100 dollar only because of fishs they called and had luck on riverLast edit: 25/02/2017 13:14

Baalim   Mexico. Feb 25 2017 07:42. Posts 34246


  On February 25 2017 00:56 jeremy5408 wrote:
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i feel so stupid acknowledging how much my roommates dog makes an impact on my mental health


dont be, dogs are pretty cool 8)

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Wioldi   United States. Aug 02 2017 14:19. Posts 5

Every morning, I wake up to enjoy a new day, say thanks to the sun and the sky


k4ir0s   Canada. Aug 02 2017 16:55. Posts 3476

I dont know what a dt drop is. Is it a wrestling move? -Oly 

k4ir0s   Canada. Aug 02 2017 17:08. Posts 3476

I'm curious to see how my story unfolds. I have no good answer to give you. I want to 'improve' and see what I'm capable of. I want to mold my environment into something that I look forward to every morning. I want to see if I'm resilient enough to continue this charade and to become a functioning, contributing human being. If I ever manage to make something of myself then perhaps I could help others and become a better version of myself. I enjoy the little things: dark chocolate in the morning, pornography, learning new things, comedy, exploring new music; it's all self indulgent. I have no purpose and no gifts to offer the world. I'm motivated by curiosity, really.

I dont know what a dt drop is. Is it a wrestling move? -OlyLast edit: 02/08/2017 17:13

k4ir0s   Canada. Aug 02 2017 17:32. Posts 3476

I have to re-examine my life. I'm becoming weak and my life is becoming stagnant. At least when I had poker my life was a struggle and competing every day made my days feel purposeful. In a month I'll be applying to jobs and although I'll be doing work I moderately enjoy, it feels like I'm throwing in the towel. Part of me wants to join the Borg, as you put it, but the other part loathes everything about it. What other options do we have? Should I become a antinatalist vegan and give half my salary to charities, will that give my life purpose?

I dont know what a dt drop is. Is it a wrestling move? -Oly 

Loco   Canada. Aug 02 2017 20:13. Posts 20963

Looks like you're talking to me in that second post. That discussion was in another thread though so it's hard for me to tell where you're picking up the conversation from. Anyway, I don't have a good answer for you, but these are my thoughts. A job you moderately enjoy is definitely better than most people who find themselves in your position post-poker, but I understand wanting for more. I get around that by moderating my expectations. I don't expect much out of life. Many people would say that what I'm doing is throwing in the towel, ironically. But it's just what works for me. I don't have big dreams to chase, I'm satisfied with very little.

Being a vegan, an antinatalist, and whatever else is just what enables me to live with myself without hating myself. It doesn't really fill my life with meaning. It's more of a, "it's the least I can do" type of thing, and I do them because I didn't like who I was when my actions didn't mirror my convictions. It's not like I meet with other vegans and antinatalists or EAs and discuss how cool we are so I can feel good about myself. If anything, I've lost interest in these communities almost entirely. I've come to believe that they all fail in some important way, and I'm certainly not going to position myself as a teacher for them...

There's probably no one thing that will give your life purpose. It's a day by day struggle involving multiple factors. The biggest one is probably the struggle between self-indulgence and what you call the better version of yourself. I'm sure you already know which activities are better for you to spend your time on, so it's just a matter of training yourself to spend your time better. You also already understand that you do this by setting up your environment so that it's easier to do those things instead of distracting yourself. There are many other ways to feel like you're progressing other than by accumulating money or stuff. Think about it. If you're feeling the way you do it's because you're lacking in several respects, which means you shouldn't struggle to find challenges. Just find ones that you like and feel like they are worth doing. For me the mental aspect is taken care of by reading, the 'spiritual' aspect by music (both playing and discovering/listening), and the physical aspect by weight lifting and cycling mainly. I see progress in these three spheres on a regular basis and it prevents me from feeling lost or sorry for myself.

If you're not trying to progress in those spheres to any appreciable degree then you're probably on auto-pilot and being self-destructive, and you have to get to the bottom of why that is. With that said, the opposite isn't much better: the self-improvement craze that will have people believe they must be improving themselves every day in a linear fashion -- constant, never-ending improvement -- that's a whole lot of bullshit. There should be a sense of progress in your life but not an obsession over it centered upon an unrealistic view of progress. Progress hinges on periods of stagnation and regression. Just like in society as a whole, there's no such thing as linear/constant progress. The unexpected never fails to show up and upheavals and unrest are a part of the deal.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccountLast edit: 02/08/2017 20:58

Ryan Neilly   United States. Aug 02 2017 22:10. Posts 1631

to sit at 2/4 heads up all day waiting for frinkx...

jk..

to play nl2 and polish my gun and mark off days on the calander.

jk,

cuz i fucking want to.


Baalim   Mexico. Aug 02 2017 23:39. Posts 34246

"Its because you want people to know how good, attractive, generous, funny, wild and clever you really are, fear or revear me, but please, think im special, we share an addiction, we are approval junkies, we are all in it for the slap on the back and the gold watch and the hip hip hoo-fucking-ra, look at the clever boy with a badge, polishing his trophy, shine on you crazy diamond, we are just monkeys wrapped in suits begging for the approval of others"

Lets see who knows where this is from?

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traxamillion   United States. Aug 03 2017 02:32. Posts 10468

Survival 1st, love if you can get it but if not then pleasure


Stroggoz   New Zealand. Aug 03 2017 03:46. Posts 5289


  On August 02 2017 22:39 Baalim wrote:
"Its because you want people to know how good, attractive, generous, funny, wild and clever you really are, fear or revear me, but please, think im special, we share an addiction, we are approval junkies, we are all in it for the slap on the back and the gold watch and the hip hip hoo-fucking-ra, look at the clever boy with a badge, polishing his trophy, shine on you crazy diamond, we are just monkeys wrapped in suits begging for the approval of others"

Lets see who knows where this is from?



lol i havnt seen the movie but you link the quote (in youtube video form) from revolver in the forums about 5-6 years ago

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Delass   United States. Aug 03 2017 04:28. Posts 10

Every morning, before I eat my breakfast, I play Poker online. Then I cook some bacon and eggs (my everyday meal). I clean my room, garage, dog cages, backyard, car and feed the dogs. Afterward, I exercise for 30 minutes to make myself fit and healthy. Then I shower and prepare myself to go to work. Well, those are the reason why I get up every morning. If not for all of that I will be sleeping all day!

Gambling is winningLast edit: 03/08/2017 04:37

RiKD    United States. Aug 03 2017 06:37. Posts 8430


  I'm curious to see how my story unfolds. I have no good answer to give you. I want to 'improve' and see what I'm capable of. I want to mold my environment into something that I look forward to every morning. I want to see if I'm resilient enough to continue this charade and to become a functioning, contributing human being. If I ever manage to make something of myself then perhaps I could help others and become a better version of myself. I enjoy the little things: dark chocolate in the morning, pornography, learning new things, comedy, exploring new music; it's all self indulgent. I have no purpose and no gifts to offer the world. I'm motivated by curiosity, really.



Good stuff. Continue what charade? Living life does not have to be a charade. I am going to go all Sartre and say it can be lived freely with authenticity. Being a mature, functioning adult is respectable. Contributing is nice but what exactly are we contributing to? I think these days there could be an over emphasis on contributing especially as it relates to productivity obsessions. That kind of goes hand in hand with how do you want to "make something of yourself"? You can move towards a better version of yourself and help people today if you want. I always like a little dark chocolate in the morning and some pornography too. They are there simply to look good and sexy and for the most part they definitely do. Reverse cow girl is such a silly position but boy does it look great for the camera. I don't know if I would get too caught up in self indulgent. All of those things are great. Quality of life is what is important in life. However you get it is however you get it. These meaning(s) that I sometimes talk about are just one aspect to quality of life as long as total quality of life is passable I am not going to be too miserable. The higher I can increase quality of life the more satisfied, joyous, contented I become. No one has a purpose. We are just existing and then one day we will no longer exist. Can you afford cat food, kitty litter and some veterinarian bills? Yes? Cool, you have some gifts. Rescue a kitten. Now, there is a little bit of meaning to your life. That is just an easy example.


  I have to re-examine my life. I'm becoming weak and my life is becoming stagnant. At least when I had poker my life was a struggle and competing every day made my days feel purposeful. In a month I'll be applying to jobs and although I'll be doing work I moderately enjoy, it feels like I'm throwing in the towel. Part of me wants to join the Borg, as you put it, but the other part loathes everything about it. What other options do we have? Should I become a antinatalist vegan and give half my salary to charities, will that give my life purpose?



Not that I think people need to be strong all the time but weak is rarely ever a good attribute. I am fighting everyday to keep my life from becoming stagnant so I hear you brother. I really hate writing things like "I hear you brother" because I never say that. I would say "I hear you man." Sometimes the people dropping brother all the time get on my nerves. I hear you on the poker too. "Moderately" enjoy is fantastic. The best I have been able to find post poker are jobs I don't hate. Sometimes it is wise to throw in the towel. Tap out and move on. You either win or you learn. From experience it is not wise for me to enter situations that I loathe. Even if the alternatives are foreign and scarier and maybe in some ways undesirable I just can't put myself in the really bad, life crushing dimensions. Multinational Account Manager in Shithole, USA selling to corrupt situations is a major no go for me. It was so bad that I expand it to pretty much all multinational corporation sales even though at times that seems severe. There are always options. I am living at home with my parents working 2nd shift as a prep cook. It is undesirable in many ways but I am doing ok. I have to be very careful with the situation but at the moment I really don't mind it. It is just about the right thing for me at this point in time although I should not have agreed to 2nd shift as it makes it harder for me to meet people. If I could have an epiphany of something else I should be doing I will do that. A lot of times it is the little things in life that make certain moments good or even lingering little joys and contentments. Haha, I mean I would say if it makes sense to you go ahead and become anti-natalist vegan. Maybe there is an inkling of meaning found in reducing suffering but it is really about what is the right thing to do? What is the philosophy and arguments of the situation and how is that going to effect my conscience day to day? Half of your money to charity does not leave much for reasonable expenses until you start making like $80k+. I think that would probably be a worthwhile endeavor if you not only gave money but you also gave your time. It still would not give you a purpose in life. Nothingness, being, nothingness. That's it. The universe does not care. We are specks of dust in blips of time. All we can do is make the best of it.


Baalim   Mexico. Aug 03 2017 07:50. Posts 34246


  On August 03 2017 02:46 Stroggoz wrote:
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lol i havnt seen the movie but you link the quote (in youtube video form) from revolver in the forums about 5-6 years ago


god damn thats some sick memory

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Delass   United States. Aug 07 2017 01:22. Posts 10

I jog every morning to make myself fit, I am a little concern with my cat because she was stuck in the house all day with nothing to do. I tried bringing her outside but she felt uncomfortable and I have no way controlling her. I saw this kitty walk online and it says that my pet can play outside safely. What do you think?

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VanDerMeyde   Norway. Aug 07 2017 16:04. Posts 5108

Today the reason is game of thrones ))

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RiKD    United States. Aug 07 2017 21:24. Posts 8430


  On August 07 2017 00:22 Delass wrote:
I jog every morning to make myself fit, I am a little concern with my cat because she was stuck in the house all day with nothing to do. I tried bringing her outside but she felt uncomfortable and I have no way controlling her. I saw this kitty walk online and it says that my pet can play outside safely. What do you think?



I don't know man. Buy one and see if your kitty likes it. I don't think my cats would go for that but they do like being outside on the (closed in) patio. They like to hunt for lizards and other critters and just lie around in the sun like cats like to do. Most cats I have had don't really mind to be inside. As long as they are getting fed they are happy to just lie around. I did have one cat we would always let outside because he was a true hunter and loved the wild. He would catch birds, snakes, mice, shrews just for the sport of it. The cats I have now would just run away and not know what to do.


 



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