I dont think Holly should retire she is in great shape she is a cardio machine, she just needs to re-learn how to use her hands, she needs a Mike Tyson intense course, hooks and uppercuts only, lots of head and waist movement, get in-out with angles and level changes and not sprints.
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TianYuan Korea (South). Feb 12 2017 08:32. Posts 6817
On February 12 2017 06:05 Baalim wrote:
Randaime 3-2 but should be a draw by point deduction
Thought GDR won every round lol
But wasn't paying attention in the last one because thought it was so over.
On February 12 2017 06:05 Baalim wrote:
Randaime 3-2 but should be a draw by point deduction
Thought GDR won every round lol
But wasn't paying attention in the last one because thought it was so over.
Nah she gassed hard and Holly got slightly smarter and didnt open with the charging 1-2-1 every time and threw more kicks and grappled more, 4th and 5th clear Holly rounds.
Hollys offensive wrestling was awful, she barely did any level change before shooting and she was way to fucking far and didnt time them at all, and in the clinch she simply couldnt get anything going even against someone gassed and with weak wrestling.
Doesnt she train with Jackson? I dont get why she doesnt improve.
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jvilla777 Australia. Feb 12 2017 10:48. Posts 1348
Just caught up on the co main and ME.
Brunson won that fight bruh...
And Holly... what the f was that shuffle 1-2 punch opening combo? She was throwing that without any intention of hitting Germaine so she can land a leg kick?? What a high level game plan by high level coaches at that high level gym in Albookerkie... fucccccck
longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality!
On February 12 2017 09:48 jvilla777 wrote:
Just caught up on the co main and ME.
Brunson won that fight bruh...
And Holly... what the f was that shuffle 1-2 punch opening combo? She was throwing that without any intention of hitting Germaine so she can land a leg kick?? What a high level game plan by high level coaches at that high level gym in Albookerkie... fucccccck
something that popped up in my mind now, i loved how easily jacare got rid of boetsch's knee when they were on the ground by lifting his hips while keeping his weight on his chest. Good bjj guys make it look so easy and simple.
On February 12 2017 09:48 jvilla777 wrote:
Just caught up on the co main and ME.
Brunson won that fight bruh...
And Holly... what the f was that shuffle 1-2 punch opening combo? She was throwing that without any intention of hitting Germaine so she can land a leg kick?? What a high level game plan by high level coaches at that high level gym in Albookerkie... fucccccck
worked vs. ronda though
No, Holly didnt charge with the 1-2-1 combo a single time against Ronda which would have been an obviouis suicide against a judoka, she beat her with check hooks and straigth rights
About the Anderson fight, he is very noticeably slower, the difference is quite big, crazy how the body deteriorates fast in a few years.
He also should avoid the thai clinch against strong wrestlers, Weidman rocked him time ago in that exact position and now against Bruson he would have cruised to a clear win if he only didnt try the pummel, I think he simply was used to bully physically weaker fighters with it, the most obvious example against Rich Franklin, but he isnt as strong as he was, middleweights today as bigger than ever and when a big guy with strong wrestling shows up it appears that he can simply keep upright create distance and punch at will while Anderson just stays there unable to dish out knees in exchange.
Essentially, we could summarize it with this: Holm was an elite kick boxer, but she's now past her prime and her skills apparently didn't fully transfer to MMA.
GDR is still in her prime and younger, and is considered to be the greatest female Muay Thai fighter of all time.
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wongfeihung United States. Feb 13 2017 07:27. Posts 48
On February 13 2017 03:26 lucky331 wrote:
do you guys feel the same?
Not at all. Read the "betting tips #5" https://mmabettingtips.com/ufc-208-holm-vs-de-randamie-betting-tips-picks/
I think it explains pretty well why GDR was the favorite comming into this fight. And the explanation isn't "holly sucks".
GDR is simply a really really high level striker.
Essentially, we could summarize it with this: Holm was an elite kick boxer, but she's now past her prime and her skills apparently didn't fully transfer to MMA.
GDR is still in her prime and younger, and is considered to be the greatest female Muay Thai fighter of all time.
Do you have a source for this? I didn't pay close attention to the commentating during the match, nor did I watch any of the UFC hype videos, but if she is/was the greatest, I think they would have mentioned it during the broadcast.
Essentially, we could summarize it with this: Holm was an elite kick boxer, but she's now past her prime and her skills apparently didn't fully transfer to MMA.
GDR is still in her prime and younger, and is considered to be the greatest female Muay Thai fighter of all time.
Do you have a source for this? I didn't pay close attention to the commentating during the match, nor did I watch any of the UFC hype videos, but if she is/was the greatest, I think they would have mentioned it during the broadcast.
GDR isn't the greatest muay thai fighter of all-time. She was one of the best muay thai fighters during the time she fought, as was Valentina Shevchenko.
Holm isn't an elite kickboxer either. On paper, she is considered one of the best female boxers of all-time, even though she ducked certain fighters and wasn't the best defensive fighter nor was she the best offensive fighter during her boxing career.
Holm is 35-years-old and has fought the same way in MMA since Day 1. She had a good match-up with Ronda, and had lackluster fights before and after she won and lost the UFC title. None of her UFC performances were high level or exciting aside from the fight against Ronda.
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[GiTM]-Ace United States. Feb 13 2017 22:09. Posts 1585
im so confused. I had Randaime winning everyone rd. And everyone is saying holly got robbed.
On February 13 2017 21:09 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
im so confused. I had Randaime winning everyone rd. And everyone is saying holly got robbed.
who's saying holly got robbed? makes no sense
3 rounds were clear as hell for GDR, and 2 rounds were a little closer but i still give them to GDR
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PuertoRican United States. Feb 13 2017 23:00. Posts 13044
On February 13 2017 21:09 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
im so confused. I had Randaime winning everyone rd. And everyone is saying holly got robbed.
I had GDR winning Rounds 1/2/3. I totally blanked out and lost interest in Rounds 4/5, but I think I gave GDR at least one of them.
Holm head kicked GDR in Round 4 or something, but she didn't do anything else in that round. The commentators were also biased as fuck.
Aside from the head kick, the fight went like I thought it would. Although, I thought GDR would get a laye finish, but she kept calm and never went for the kill, she just countered Holly like Shevchenko did and made sure to defend the shitty TD attempts Holly kept spamming against the cage with no damage done in the clinch.
On February 13 2017 21:09 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
im so confused. I had Randaime winning everyone rd. And everyone is saying holly got robbed.
Every comment on Facebook pages said that it was a robbery but the combined IQ of all MMA posters in FB is like minus 26, they always come up with the dumbest unimaginable shit ever.
Holly would have had a much better chance if she tried the takedowns on the 1st round, tiring GDR, making her slightly worried about the TD so her striking would get diminished and then trying to spam her stupid combos.
Obviously its easy to come up with the perfect strategy after the fight, and even then she probably wouldn't have anything above 60% chance of winning.
The fight with Cyborg will be great, Cyborg has only faced a striker of this caliber once and she lost (Baars), but it was a kickboxing match and the fact that Cyborg can take GDR to the ground if things arent going her way in the standup is HUGE, i think the grappling and size advantage are too big for GDR to overcome.
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