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UFC FN 104: Bermudez vs. Korean Zombie

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PuertoRican   United States. Jan 30 2017 06:03. Posts 10576

Date: Saturday, February 4th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 01:00 LP.net / 4pm PST / 7pm EST
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1): 2:00 LP.net / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card (UFC Fight Pass): 4:00 LP.net / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
Live Streams: http://firstrowus1.eu/




Main Card (Fox Sports 1)

Dennis Bermudez (16-5) vs. Chan Sung Jung (13-4) (Featherweight)
Alexa Grasso (9-0) vs. Felice Herrig (11-6) (Women's Strawweight)
Abel Trujillo (15-6) vs. James Vick (9-1) (Lightweight)
Ovince Saint Preux (19-9) vs. Volkan Oezdemir (12-1) (Light Heavyweight)
Anthony Hamilton (15-6) vs. Marcel Fortuna (8-1) (Heavyweight)
Jessica Andrade (15-5) vs. Angela Hill (6-2) (Women's Strawweight)

Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1)

Adam Milstead (8-1) vs. Curtis Blaydes (6-1) (Heavyweight)
Chas Skelly (16-2) vs. Chris Gruetzemacher (13-1) (Featherweight)
Ricardo Ramos (9-1) vs. Michinori Tanaka (11-2) (Bantamweight)
Tecia Torres (7-1) vs. Bec Rawlings (7-5) (Women's Strawweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Alex Morono (13-3) vs. Niko Price (9-0) (Welterweight)
Daniel Jolly (5-1) vs. Khalil Rountree (4-2) (Light Heavyweight)

Other

- This will be Chan Sung Jung's first bout since August 2013, as he returns from military service.
- On January 19, the card suffered multiple changes due to injury: Evan Dunham and Johnny Case pulled out of their respective fights against Abel Trujillo and James Vick. Subsequently, Trujillo and Vick are now expected to face each other. Also, Sheldon Westcott was forced to withdraw from his bout against Alex Morono at the event. He was replaced by Niko Price on January 24.
- Jan Blachowicz was expected to face former interim UFC Light Heavyweight Championship challenger Ovince Saint Preux, but pulled out on January 21 due to injury and was replaced by promotional newcomer Volkan Oezdemir on January 21.

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PuertoRican   United States. Jan 30 2017 06:07. Posts 10576

First impression of the match-ups:

• Jung > Bermudez
• Grasso > Herrig
• Vick > Trujillo
• OSP vs. Oezdemir (dunno)
• Hamilton vs. Fortuna (dunno)
• Andrade > Hill
• Blaydes > Milstead
• Skelly vs. Gruetzemacher (dunno)
• Ramos vs. Tanaka (dunno)
• Torres > Rawlings
• Morono > Price
• Jolly vs. Rountree (dunno)

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Minsk   Belarus. Feb 01 2017 06:03. Posts 1493

How good is James Vick at keeping range and fighting at range, on a scale of 1-10?

A coward dies a thousand deaths. A soldier dies but once. 

soberstone   United States. Feb 01 2017 09:01. Posts 2641

Soooo much value on some of the fights, I already laid a lot.

Someone faded Hamilton super hard because hes obviously a bottom tier HW but the guy he is fighting is a terrible outsized LHW jiu-jitsu player with bad wrestling. Hamilton looks almost like a lock at -175, this must be a favor for taking the Ngannou fight.


soberstone   United States. Feb 01 2017 09:05. Posts 2641


  On February 01 2017 05:03 Minsk wrote:
How good is James Vick at keeping range and fighting at range, on a scale of 1-10?



I don't know but not great, Trujillo is quicker and will probably test his chin early, but he's pretty durable, coin toss fight, longer it goes better chance Vick has


Stim_Abuser   United States. Feb 01 2017 10:50. Posts 7498

Man really tough fight for the Korean Zombie coming off over 3 years layoff and several shoulder injuries during and after the Aldo fight. He should be the better fighter, but Bermudez is a really tough solid guy and thats a lot to over come.

He should really be getting a tune up fight.

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete 

jvilla777   Australia. Feb 01 2017 11:18. Posts 1325


  On February 01 2017 09:50 Stim_Abuser wrote:
Man really tough fight for the Korean Zombie coming off over 3 years layoff and several shoulder injuries during and after the Aldo fight. He should be the better fighter, but Bermudez is a really tough solid guy and thats a lot to over come.

He should really be getting a tune up fight.



Remember Bermudez got dropped by a jab from Lamas.

But still iffy about betting Jung, I need to see the weigh ins for this fight before I place any bets.

longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! 

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Feb 01 2017 17:15. Posts 7805

I remember back in the day that korean bw pros were still allowed to play some BW in the army, that and considering martial arts would actually help you in the military, he most likely continued his training during his stay there didn't he?

His fight vs Aldo was one of the first fights I've seen in the UFC as far as i remember, although I do remember JJ vs Machida which was way earlier

 Last edit: 01/02/2017 17:17

PuertoRican   United States. Feb 02 2017 02:18. Posts 10576


  On February 01 2017 05:03 Minsk wrote:
How good is James Vick at keeping range and fighting at range, on a scale of 1-10?


Vick isn't consistent when it comes to keeping people at the end of his jab and kicks.

Trujillo is an inside fighter.

Vick can win by decision or by late finish, while Trujillo can only win by TKO.

Hometown Fighters

- Alex Morono
- Chas Skelly
- Daniel Jolly
- James Vick

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soberstone   United States. Feb 02 2017 04:04. Posts 2641

Picks:

Bermudez > Jung - Odds are probably a bit wide, Jung is the more dangerous fighter but I just can't pick him due to inactivity and Bermudez is still improving slowly. With the game evolving the way it has, I don't know how good Jung that fought Aldo stacks up against todays division, and it probably won't be that same guy anyway.

Grasso > Herrig - Virtual lock, Grasso will be fighting for a belt soon enough, the hype is real

Trujillo > Vick - Polar opposites and initially I was favoring Vick but after re-watching his last KO to Dariush, I think his chin might be done. One of the most vicious KO's I've ever seen. Agree with Rican's assessment that Trujillo needs a KO and probably early to win, I just think he'll get it.

OSP > Oezdemier - Weird match-up, seems like an obvious case of them wanting OSP to get his confidence back and get back in the W's. Other guy isn't good from what I've seen,. just a mildly powerful Muai Thai striker that is smaller and slower

Hamilton > Fortuna - Fortuna is an undersized LHW jiujitsu player who's awful, Hamilton may not be good but he's gonna be massively bigger and hits way harder and is a much better wrestler

Andrade > Hill - Odds are insane now though, way too wide. Open under 2:1, now Andrade is -550. Line is off - Hill has gotten much much better really quickly and if she can keep it standing, she can win

Blaydes > Milstead - One of the few HW fights I think goes to decision a lot. Both guys have great cardio and chins, Blaydes just a much better wrestler and I'm super high on him

Skelly > Gruetz - Should be a lock, Skelly 10x better athlete, should be able to find a sub fairly easily or outpoint him if Gruetz TDD holds up

Ramos vs Tanaka - Dunno, only fight I haven't studied yet

Torres > Rawlings - Torres decision via volume and speed advantages (+ hasn't been KO'd by PVZ lol)

Price > Moreno - Price was super impressive in his debut vs Thatch, he's improving really rapidly, he looked horrible on tape before that fight. Moreno is bad and lucky as hell to have any W's in UFC.

Rountree > Jolly - Not confident, toss up if it goes past 1 but early on Rountree is a monster

Bets (subject to keep adding)

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 Last edit: 05/02/2017 06:13

PuertoRican   United States. Feb 02 2017 05:52. Posts 10576


  On February 02 2017 03:04 soberstone wrote:
Price > Moreno - Price was super impressive in his debut vs Thatch, he's improving really rapidly, he looked horrible on tape before that fight. Moreno is bad and lucky as hell to have any W's in UFC.


I think you read this one in reverse.

Price is game, but he's super green and he didn't look good at all in his short notice debut against Brandon Thatch. What was impressive in that match was Thatch, and how he managed to lose his 4th fight in a row by submission, and he looked worse than usual when the fight went to the ground. I think Thatch set a record for losing 4 times in a by submission in the UFC... ...most guys would've been cut before they could hit 4 submission losses in a row. Anyway, to get back on topic, it was essentially Thatch looking bad while Price didn't look like anything special. If you have time, go back and re-watch the fight twice -- once from Thatch's perspective, and once from Price's perspective -- and you might have a different opinion of Price.

Regarding BJJ, Morono is a black belt, while Price is either a purple or brown belt. I remember Price was given a belt while in the cage after her beat Thatch, which hella people were laughing over. Morono is also a black belt in Taekwondo, and he has the striking and aggression advantage in this fight. Moreover, Morono is the hometown fighter here.

And, if you care about the level of past competition for both of their opponents, Morono has the better resume.

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Someone else just posted this transcript:

Morono - best fight camp I've ever had, marathon training, almost 6 months of training, all 100% serious, no injuries, I couldn't have trained harder, I grew up watching Fedor, started boxing as a kid to lose weight, 10 years ago, trained at home in houston for this one, at 4 different gyms, I run the classes in my Gracie gym, I'm not lacking anywhere for styles or training partners here in Houston, I had a torn ACL for the Noke fight, got that fixed thank god, I'm a BJJ black belt, I know my striking is good, I know he likes to wrestle, but I will keep it standing, I train with the best black belts in town, was training for Sheldon Westcott (he was a southpaw), I respect Niko (orthodox), it's my hometown, alot of invested / tickets, I respect him for taking this fight, keep the range, throw my strikes, wrestle when he gets close, they also offered it to Belal Muhammed but he couldn't make the weight, Niko is a warrior, took the fight, there's alot of Niko fights on youtube, I watch alot of tape, I love strategy, I love this sport, Niko likes to throw down, looking forward to a war, I do so much grappling and wrestling training, if the takedown is there, I will go for it, but I love striking, I hope he brings it, I love the battle, I'm ready to die in the Octagon, I'm 179, easy weight cut, strict fight week diet, I'm leaner than my last fight, I live in Houston, 20 mins from my house, 200 people I know going to the fights, I have shirts made, there's an electric energy, I will do better at home, I will make the most of it, I will gun for the KO, but I think I'll catch him with a sub, would like to fight Akhmedov after this.

Rekrul is a newbLast edit: 02/02/2017 06:02

soberstone   United States. Feb 02 2017 19:44. Posts 2641

I thought Niko looked relatively good vs Thatch considering how good of a striker Thatch is and how bad I thought Price was prior to the fight. As you mentioned, he's super green - which is why it's not surprising to me that he is making vast improvements quickly. Morono may be the better submission grappler, but I don't think he can rely on taking down Price, who is a better athlete and a better wrestler.

On the feet, neither guy is good, but I think Price just has the technical and physical advantages. Morono is not a good striker at all. Vs Noke he won a robbery but clearly got picked apart on the feet, and vs Moontasri, I'd have to re-watch but I think it was just Moontasri's epic weaknesses (bad cardio, no volume, bad wrestling) on full display.

Anyway, I've already pulled the trigger on Price so no point now unless I want to hedge out, which there's no way I will after reading Conor Rebuesches breakdown (it simply confirms that another guy who knows what he's watching sees it the same way as me, not that I'm necessarily correct):

Alex Morono (13-3-1) vs. Niko Price (9-0): Price likes to strike. Six of his nine wins are by knockout, and according to the man himself, striking was the plan going into his short-notice debut against Brandon Thatch. Upon being hit cleanly a few too many times, though, Price took down Thatch. Price is a quick scrambler and uses pressure on the ground to force his opponents into transitions they stand little chance of winning. You might say he is actually a better grappler than a kickboxer, despite his preference for swangin’ and bangin’ in the cage. That essentially makes Price a supercharged version of Morono, whose submission game has not reared its head as often as expected in his two UFC bouts. Whereas Price is too wild for his own good, Morono is virtually technique-less. On the feet, he is a whirlwind of hooks and overhands and yet manages to keep up with better strikers. Price has the physical and technical advantages in many aspects of this matchup, but Morono is not to be counted out. He was a sizeable underdog in each of his first two UFC bouts and won both. The tentative pick is Price by unanimous decision.
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 Last edit: 02/02/2017 19:50

soberstone   United States. Feb 03 2017 08:11. Posts 2641

I will give Morono that he's super durable and has very good cardio. He's a grinder that won't piss a fight away. We'll see if that's enough.


PuertoRican   United States. Feb 04 2017 00:27. Posts 10576






Dennis Bermudez (145.5) vs. Chan Sung Jung (145.5)
Alexa Grasso (116) vs. Felice Herrig (115.5)
Abel Trujillo (156) vs. James Vick (155.5)
Volkan Oezdemir (206) vs. Ovince Saint Preux (205)
Marcel Fortuna (210.5) vs. Anthony Hamilton (258.5)
Jessica Andrade (115.5) vs. Angela Hill (116)
Curtis Blaydes (264.5) vs. Adam Milstead (233.5)
Chris Gruetzemacher (145) vs. Chas Skelly (146)
Ricardo Ramos (135) vs. Michinori Tanaka (135)
Bec Rawlings (117.5*) vs. Tecia Torres (115.5) - 20% of Rawling's purse has been forfeited to Torres
Alex Morono (170) vs. Niko Price (170.5)
Daniel Jolly (204.5) vs. Khalil Rountree (205)

Rekrul is a newbLast edit: 04/02/2017 21:33

soberstone   United States. Feb 05 2017 00:30. Posts 2641

How the hell does Chas Skelly make 145? He's just so massive. Same w/ Vick at LW, but frankly I think Trujillo should slim down a tad and try and fight at 45.

 Last edit: 05/02/2017 00:31

PuertoRican   United States. Feb 05 2017 00:35. Posts 10576

My finals picks:

• Bermudez > Jung
• Grasso > Herrig
• Trujillo > Vick
• Oezdemir > OSP
• Hamilton > Fortuna
• Andrade > Hill
• Blaydes > Milstead
• Skelly > Gruetzemacher
• Tanaka > Ramos
• Torres > Rawlings
• Morono > Price
• Jolly > Rountree

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PuertoRican   United States. Feb 05 2017 01:05. Posts 10576




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soberstone   United States. Feb 05 2017 01:08. Posts 2641

funny you went from jung to bermudez, Im thinking about going from Bermudez to Jung


soberstone   United States. Feb 05 2017 01:10. Posts 2641

I love your Burmudez, Blaydes, Hamilton, Hill, Skelly, Trujillo lineup - that's pretty much my lineup except I have Jung instead of Bermudez (i just threw some money on and entered the tv only tournies, sorry I missed the sherdog one this week)


soberstone   United States. Feb 05 2017 01:12. Posts 2641

LMAO are they gonna DQ him because of the 2nd knee? i hope not but.... it wasn't legal


Edt: nm it hit his chest.

1 strike total. ko.

 Last edit: 05/02/2017 01:13

 
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