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Santafairy   Korea (South). Jun 29 2016 05:01. Posts 2224

you have a higher chance of winning the lottery than being blown up by a rogue jihadi so why aren't you worried about that

It seems to be not very profitable in the long run to play those kind of hands. - Gus Hansen 

ClouD87   Italy. Jun 29 2016 11:28. Posts 524


  On June 29 2016 04:01 Santafairy wrote:
you have a higher chance of winning the lottery than being blown up by a rogue jihadi so why aren't you worried about that


Last time I checked the lottery doesn't stone non buyers and rape women on a daily basis. I could be wrong on this though.


Santafairy   Korea (South). Jun 29 2016 19:05. Posts 2224

the words "making a TNT suicide vest and detonating yourself in a crowded airport terminal" appear nowhere in the koran you ignoramus

It seems to be not very profitable in the long run to play those kind of hands. - Gus Hansen 

ClouD87   Italy. Jun 29 2016 21:42. Posts 524

Meh no point in talking to people with low iq brainwashed by liberal media. Just to end this pointless discussion on my part I'll just say that the quran and hadis clearly talk about jihad and how violence is fine towards non muslim women. Keep denying that and make a fool of yourself over and over, it's rather funny.


Gumster   Sweden. Jun 29 2016 22:49. Posts 2290

your hate blinds you. it's so easy to see the world in black and white. it makes it more comprehensible. but there are so many more factors behind these islamic extremists attacks than simply the fact that they believe in islam. but believe whatever you want.

it's so funny cuz everytime an attack happens you guys will be like "LOOK GUYS WE FUCKING TOLD YOU!". just like trump is doing :/

Do not push the river, it will flow by itself. - Polish proverb 

ClouD87   Italy. Jun 29 2016 23:05. Posts 524

What you call hate I call legitimate concern my friend. I am not sure how my statement comes off to you but the real problem here is that islam might rightfully be a justification for many criminals to give a reason and perpetrate whatever criminal act they want to do. And that's the problem.

Not saying all muslims are bad but if you allow the human trash among them to think they are allowed by their holy book to commit whatever violent, racist or misogynist act then we have a pretty big fucking disaster. And here we are gloriously basking into it.

 Last edit: 29/06/2016 23:07

NewbSaibot   United States. Jun 29 2016 23:11. Posts 4943

bye now 

soberstone   United States. Jun 30 2016 06:19. Posts 2662


  On June 29 2016 21:49 Gumster wrote:
your hate blinds you. it's so easy to see the world in black and white. it makes it more comprehensible. but there are so many more factors behind these islamic extremists attacks than simply the fact that they believe in islam. but believe whatever you want.

it's so funny cuz everytime an attack happens you guys will be like "LOOK GUYS WE FUCKING TOLD YOU!". just like trump is doing :/



I don't think anyone is saying that "they believe in Islam, that's the problem, screw Islam, were done here", rather simply observing that Islam is the lowest common denominator and has a uniquely disturbing case of violent extremism because it's "Holy" texts are pretty much devoid of morality and emphasize coercion rather than persuasion in the pursuit of conversion which is an evil unique to Islam.

It's a pretty black and white difference between Islam and the other major religions, putting individualism aside.

On a macro-level, Christians seem to prefer secular democracies while Muslims prefer totalitarian Sharia dictatorships which I would hope we can all agree is a bad thing.

The only disagreement among intellectually honest Westerners should be on strategy and tactics in how to defeat this evil ideology, but we are still in the phase where half of the West is in full-blown denial of the unique nature of the problem due to Leftist dogma.

 Last edit: 30/06/2016 06:21

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jun 30 2016 08:22. Posts 9634


  On June 29 2016 21:49 Gumster wrote:
your hate blinds you. it's so easy to see the world in black and white. it makes it more comprehensible. but there are so many more factors behind these islamic extremists attacks than simply the fact that they believe in islam. but believe whatever you want.

it's so funny cuz everytime an attack happens you guys will be like "LOOK GUYS WE FUCKING TOLD YOU!". just like trump is doing :/



dont bother
they are imbeciles, which wont change their minds even given absolute facts, let them hate on shit, its what their fills them up


Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jun 30 2016 09:15. Posts 5290

Islam has become more extremist over the years for very clear reasons, the west has supported the al saud family for almost one hundred years in saudi arabia, which has promoted the extremist variants of islam. The west has humiliated and attacked the middle east killing between 1 and 2 million people in imperliast wars in afghanistan and iraq in recent years. The west supported the mujahideen in afghan in the 1980s solely to draw russia into a war that it couldnt win. Oh yeah, germany and the u.s supplied saddam hussein with weapons of mass destruction in the 1980s too. And supported a brutal dictator, shah of iran until he was overthrown. The list goes on, violence on this grand of a scale makes people angry and extremist. There were in fact secular economic nationalist states in the middle east that were overthrown by the west because they wanted to nationalize their resources.

There are people who want to find out why this violence occurs and what they can do to stop it, and there are people who dont and would rather focus onnthe crimes of otheres while ignoring the crimes they themselves are responsible for, in this case islamic extremisim, while violent, is a fraction of the violence that western governments have done to them.

The reasons are very clear on how to fix these problems, stop violence from western governments against the middle east, by bring all of our leaders to trial for their war crimes. Also, we must offer opportunities for the muslims who carry out these attacks, so they can live their lives with dignity instead of lashing out as they do

One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beingsLast edit: 30/06/2016 09:21

Baalim   Mexico. Jun 30 2016 11:19. Posts 34246


  On June 29 2016 20:42 ClouD87 wrote:
Meh no point in talking to people with low iq brainwashed by liberal media. Just to end this pointless discussion on my part I'll just say that the quran and hadis clearly talk about jihad and how violence is fine towards non muslim women. Keep denying that and make a fool of yourself over and over, it's rather funny.



It was sarcasm, even if you didnt know about Santafarys political alignment it was pretty obvious

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Baalim   Mexico. Jun 30 2016 11:21. Posts 34246


  On June 29 2016 21:49 Gumster wrote:
your hate blinds you. it's so easy to see the world in black and white. it makes it more comprehensible. but there are so many more factors behind these islamic extremists attacks than simply the fact that they believe in islam. but believe whatever you want.

it's so funny cuz everytime an attack happens you guys will be like "LOOK GUYS WE FUCKING TOLD YOU!". just like trump is doing :/



Attributing it only to Islam is equally stupid to denying it is an important part of the problem

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Baalim   Mexico. Jun 30 2016 11:28. Posts 34246


  On June 30 2016 05:19 soberstone wrote:

I don't think anyone is saying that "they believe in Islam, that's the problem, screw Islam, were done here", rather simply observing that Islam is the lowest common denominator and has a uniquely disturbing case of violent extremism because it's "Holy" texts are pretty much devoid of morality and emphasize coercion rather than persuasion in the pursuit of conversion which is an evil unique to Islam.



You are absolutely wrong about this, the problem with Islam is not the Quran, just read the bible... God is an homicidal maniac that makes Hitler look like the softest of the Care Bears, he commands his followers to kill for ridiculous petty things.

But Christians simply say "Oh thats the old testament... it doesnt count", so basically they ignore the word of god and somewhat mold their religion to modern morality and most Muslims dont.

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ClouD87   Italy. Jun 30 2016 11:40. Posts 524


  On June 30 2016 10:19 Baalim wrote:
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It was sarcasm, even if you didnt know about Santafarys political alignment it was pretty obvious

Sure, extremely obvious

Anyway if it was a troll well done


nolan   Ireland. Jun 30 2016 16:25. Posts 6205


  On June 30 2016 08:15 Stroggoz wrote:
Islam has become more extremist over the years for very clear reasons...



Do you think there wasn't Islamic extremism before the mid 90's or something? The Ottomans literally encouraged rape and slavery specifically citing the Quran. If anything Islam is less extreme now than it was in ~1380-1900.

On September 08 2008 10:07 Baal wrote: my head is a gyroscope, your argument is invalid 

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jun 30 2016 19:16. Posts 9634


  On June 30 2016 10:28 Baalim wrote:
God is an homicidal maniac that makes Hitler look like the softest of the Care Bears, he commands his followers to kill for ridiculous petty things.



But no read the new testament, its only the jew god thats homicidal !

edit: oh lol i didnt read ur full comment u even said it urself

also saying islam has become more violent over the years is something so stupid my brain hurts
there is no global " environment" or " religion " or whatever entity that has become more violent, except feminists ofc.
dont use absolutes randomly.

 Last edit: 30/06/2016 19:31

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jul 01 2016 00:27. Posts 5290


  On June 30 2016 15:25 nolan wrote:
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Do you think there wasn't Islamic extremism before the mid 90's or something? The Ottomans literally encouraged rape and slavery specifically citing the Quran. If anything Islam is less extreme now than it was in ~1380-1900.


Of course not, if you actually read what i said you will see that i wrote that the US (along with saudi arabia) supported the mujahideen in the 80's, well known radicals. It has grown more radical over recent history, we know that al qeada rejected the founder of ISIS, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi because he was too extreme for them. The extremism has grown more violent since the 1950's where it grew out of Sayyid Qutb from the muslim brotherhood, who was radicalized after being tortured by the CIA. As for ancient history, i won't argue much with that, though i am not well read on the ottoman empire, it wouldn't suprise me what you say, since virtually every empire commits similar cruelties. But i was talking about contemporary history when i said 'over the years', just to clarify.

Again, let me reiterate. We can learn from these events and blindly hate extremist islam, which yes, is violent. Or we can focus on our own crimes and see we are largely the cause of this problem up until the present day. It really shouldn't be hard for us to cease being hypocrites.

One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beingsLast edit: 01/07/2016 01:52

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jul 01 2016 00:51. Posts 5290


  On June 30 2016 18:16 Spitfiree wrote:
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But no read the new testament, its only the jew god thats homicidal !

edit: oh lol i didnt read ur full comment u even said it urself

also saying islam has become more violent over the years is something so stupid my brain hurts
there is no global " environment" or " religion " or whatever entity that has become more violent, except feminists ofc.
dont use absolutes randomly.


i meant the extremist elements, qutibsm, al Qaeda and ISIS. Each more radical than the past, and more violent. They have grown and spread over the world. No scholar denies this weather they are a syrian historian or an apologist for western imperialism in the university.

There are power systems, religions and so on that have become more violent. Could go into examples, like the fact that an average Indian far worse off economically in 1940 than in any period after the neolithic era, according to economist amaryta sen. Human rights doesn't progress in a straight line over history, sometimes there is regression, and bumps in the road. Feminists are hardly violent. Tell me who have they killed?

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Santafairy   Korea (South). Jul 01 2016 00:58. Posts 2224


  On June 30 2016 18:16 Spitfiree wrote:
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But no read the new testament, its only the jew god thats homicidal !

edit: oh lol i didnt read ur full comment u even said it urself

also saying islam has become more violent over the years is something so stupid my brain hurts
there is no global " environment" or " religion " or whatever entity that has become more violent, except feminists ofc.
dont use absolutes randomly.

bub, it wasn't an absolute or categorical or universal statement, it was a general statement

It seems to be not very profitable in the long run to play those kind of hands. - Gus Hansen 

whamm!   Albania. Jul 01 2016 05:23. Posts 11625

See you in the next thread guys lol



 
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