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Bellator 157: Rampage vs. Ishii

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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 21 2016 09:36. Posts 13030

Date: Friday, June 24th
Preliminary Card (Spike.com): 23:00 LP.net / 3pm PST / 6pm EST
Main Card (Spike TV): 1:00 LP.net / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Live Streams: http://firstrowus1.eu/




Bellator Kickboxing: St. Louis bouts

Joe Schilling (27-8) vs. Hisaki Kato (6-2) (Middleweight Kickboxing)
Raymond Daniels (11-3) vs. Stefano Bruno (23-2-1) (Welterweight Kickboxing)
Keri Melendez (3-1) vs. Sarah Howell (0-0) (Women's Flyweight Kickboxing)

Main Card (Spike TV)

Quinton Jackson (36-11) vs. Satoshi Ishii (14-5-1) (Catchweight)
Michael Chandler (14-3) vs. Patricky Freire (16-7) (Vacant Lightweight Championship)
Matt Mitrione (9-5) vs. Carl Seumanutafa (10-6) (Heavyweight)
Kevin Ross (42-11) vs. Justin Houghton (7-2) (Featherweight Kickboxing)
Denise Kielholtz (44-2) vs. Gloria Peritore (10-1) (Women's Flyweight Kickboxing)
Ilima-Lei Macfarlane (3-0) vs. Rebecca Ruth (6-1) (Women's Flyweight)

Preliminary card (Spike.com)

Justin Lawrence (8-3) vs. Isao Kobayashi (18-3-4) (Featherweight)
Jordan Dowdy (3-1) vs. Guilherme Vasconcelos (7-3) (Welterweight)
Kevin Engel (5-0) vs. Chel Erwin-Davis (3-1) (Welterweight)
Jordan Howard (9-3) vs. Justin Robbins (14-17-1) (Bantamweight)
Joaquin Buckley (5-0) vs. Chris Heatherly (9-3) (Welterweight)
Michelle Royer (1-0) vs. Katy Collins (3-1) (Women's 130 lbs Catchweight)
Brad Jones (5-3) vs. Tyler Clausen (2-2) (Welterweight)
Jason Christeson (1-0) vs. Jarrod Thomas (0-0) (Middleweight)
Lee Burns (2-0) vs. Byron Stevens (0-0) (Heavyweight)
Mike Estus (7-4) vs. Steven Mann (11-4) (Welterweight)
Rashard Lovelace (3-0) vs. Garrett Mueller (2-1) (Featherweight)
Nicole Smith (1-0) vs. Ashley Cummins (3-3) (Women's Strawweight)
Elmir Kulosman (3-0) vs. Darryl Cobb (2-1) (Welterweight Kickboxing)
Tara Walker (4-3-1) vs. Mimi Kutzin (3-2) (Women's Flyweight Kickboxing)

Other

- “Bellator Kickboxing: St. Louis” will air immediately following “Bellator: Dynamite 2” event LIVE and FREE on Spike at 11pm EST.

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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 21 2016 09:38. Posts 13030

Fuck my life.

I'm so tired that I posted this in the wrong section.

Move to the Sports and Betting forum, please.

Rekrul is a newb 

alejandicto   . Jun 21 2016 14:33. Posts 865

Shit thats a lot of fights :O

I am only going to watch the three last fights and no bets for me. Rooting for Rampage, Chandler and Mitrione.


PuertoRican   United States. Jun 21 2016 20:30. Posts 13030


  On June 21 2016 13:33 alejandicto wrote:
Shit thats a lot of fights :O

I am only going to watch the three last fights and no bets for me. Rooting for Rampage, Chandler and Mitrione.



Bellator won't be able to show all of those prelim fights in 1.5 hours, even though they usually go very fast. Since there's a lot of finishes in Bellator prelims, I assume they'll show 6+ prelim fights in 1.5 hours. Also, there's usually "dark matches" for the leftover Bellator fights, which happen after the main event is over and don't get televised.

We'll probably see 6+ prelim fights > 5-fight main card > 3-fight kickboxing main card.

Not sure if the 3-fight kickboxing card is on Spike.com or Spike TV. Hopefully it's Spike.com.

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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 24 2016 01:29. Posts 13030




MAIN CARD (Spike, 8 p.m. ET)

Satoshi Ishii (222.8) vs. Quinton Jackson (224.9)
Michael Chandler (154.7) vs. Patricky Freire (155) – for vacant lightweight title
Matt Mitrione (255.9) vs. Carl Seumanutafa (254.7)
Ilima MacFarlane (126) vs. Rebecca Ruth (124.9)

PRELIMINARY CARD (MMAjunkie, 6 p.m. ET)

Isao Kobayashi (145.2) vs. Justin Lawrence (145.4)
Lee Burns (253.8) vs. Byron Stevens (263.7)
Jordan Dowdy (170) vs. Guilherme Vasconcelos (169.4)
Rashard Lovelace (144.9) vs. Garret Mueller (145.9)
Kevin Engel (170.7) vs. Cheljean Erwin-Davis (170.6)
Jordan Howard (139.6) vs. Justin Robbins (135.4)
Joaquin Buckley (172.3) vs. Chris Heatherly (179.6)
Katy Collins (126) vs. Michelle Pearce (129.9)
Jason Christeson (185.6) vs. Dewayne Diggs (185.1)
Mike Estus (177) vs. Steven Mann (170.6)
Tyler Claussen (169.7) vs. Brad Jones (167.3)
Ashley Cummins (109) vs. Nikki Smith (110)

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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 24 2016 07:51. Posts 13030




@ 00:49 of the video, Rampage makes it seem like he'll take it nice and slow against Ishii. As long as Ishii doesn't get careless and rush in with his head in the air, the Over might end up hitting.

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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 25 2016 00:08. Posts 13030

Prelims are on: http://bellator.spike.com/live

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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 25 2016 02:14. Posts 13030

Mitrione got dropped by the Samoan, but Big John McCarthy didn't stop the fight like he should have. Mitrione ended up coming back to win the fight.

Mitrione is expected to fight Oli Thompson in England next month. I'd take the plus odds on Oli in that fight.

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Michael Chandler with the 1-punch KO in Round 1.

A bunch of people lost a lot of money on the Over.

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iakim322   United States. Jun 25 2016 03:52. Posts 1335

Doesn't look like Rampage can even crush cans anymore


PuertoRican   United States. Jun 25 2016 03:57. Posts 13030


  On June 25 2016 02:52 iakim322 wrote:
Doesn't look like Rampage can even crush cans anymore



That fight was disgusting.

The next 3 fights are the "main" kickboxing fights. Should be entertaining.


Edit: The judges clearly didn't want Rampage to lose. 30-27 for Rampage is a joke.

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drone666   Brasil. Jun 25 2016 04:00. Posts 1821

lol wtf, 30-27 is unreal
how its possible that rampage won the first round ? judge prob missclicked the scores, no other explanation

Dont listen to anything I say 

PuertoRican   United States. Jun 25 2016 04:07. Posts 13030

Schilling vs. Kato should be good.

Hopefully Schilling gets his revenge and knocks this fucker out.

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Round 1: Schilling... ...but Kato has a good chin and was landing several shots.

Round 2: Schilling dominated the round hard, but at the very last second, Kato threw a spinning back-fist and knocked Schilling out... WOW!!!

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iakim322   United States. Jun 25 2016 04:57. Posts 1335

Haha what the shit. Rampage getting that decision is pretty wild. And I'm someone who's always in favor of never giving credit for a fighter who just goes in there to clinch into mostly lay n pray. Thought that's pretty much what I saw when I watched most of the first two rounds before just turning it off because it was a god awful fight. Don't care to look at the punch stats but Rampage musta landed maybe 6 strikes in the first two rounds combined.

On the other hand, the one random thing I read about his opponent before the fight was an interview where an excerpt was "I am doing this because I want to be a famous fighter." That was definitely not the way to approach it there guy. Even if you probably deserved the decision (real decision shoulda been 'fight sucked too much, you guys both lose') for a non-fight.


alejandicto   . Jun 25 2016 05:03. Posts 865

Cant believe Mitrione survive that and got the KO



Nice KO by Chandler


Rampage 30-27 is a joke lol


iakim322   United States. Jun 25 2016 05:08. Posts 1335


  On June 25 2016 03:07 PuertoRican wrote:
Schilling vs. Kato should be good.

Hopefully Schilling gets his revenge and knocks this fucker out.

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Round 1: Schilling... ...but Kato has a good chin and was landing several shots.

Round 2: Schilling dominated the round hard, but at the very last second, Kato threw a spinning back-fist and knocked Schilling out... WOW!!!



Why is Kato a fucker?

Anyone got gif of the finishing sequence? I flipped the tv on just in time for the Rampage fight then felt like the right thing to do was to turn the channel before the 3rd round even started. Forgot about the kickboxing

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iakim322   United States. Jun 25 2016 05:31. Posts 1335

Just saw the Mitrione fight courtesy of the post above. Great shot by the Samoan and Mitrione was still a bit dazed even after a brief lull on the ground. But don't really think it was a bad non-stoppage by Big John. Mitrione was able to instinctively cover up with his hands to deflect a little of the follow up shots and the follow up GNP wasn't quite so vicious. I feel like fighters should actually train a little bit so as to try to recognize when a body shot on the ground follow up is actually the more effective attack in maybe a few rare situations. Mitrione immediately put his hands up w/o looking leaving his wide body up and open. Open shot to the ribs and it's either over right there or Mitrione can't breathe for a cpl seconds and then his head is wide open again. Hindsight though. And I guess you might give up a favorable position trying to hit the body while jumping in/down


Floofy   Canada. Jun 25 2016 16:14. Posts 8708


  On June 25 2016 04:31 iakim322 wrote:
Just saw the Mitrione fight courtesy of the post above. Great shot by the Samoan and Mitrione was still a bit dazed even after a brief lull on the ground. But don't really think it was a bad non-stoppage by Big John. Mitrione was able to instinctively cover up with his hands to deflect a little of the follow up shots and the follow up GNP wasn't quite so vicious. I feel like fighters should actually train a little bit so as to try to recognize when a body shot on the ground follow up is actually the more effective attack in maybe a few rare situations. Mitrione immediately put his hands up w/o looking leaving his wide body up and open. Open shot to the ribs and it's either over right there or Mitrione can't breathe for a cpl seconds and then his head is wide open again. Hindsight though. And I guess you might give up a favorable position trying to hit the body while jumping in/down



Same here, thanks for video Puerto

But i agree with iamkim, i think it was a great "non stoppage". I think Mitrione was still "intelligently defending himself".
There was maybe a 2-3 seconds he was blocking shots and then he started defending well. I think its fine.

james9994: make note dont play against floofy, ;( 

Floofy   Canada. Jun 25 2016 16:45. Posts 8708


  On June 25 2016 03:57 iakim322 wrote:
Haha what the shit. Rampage getting that decision is pretty wild. And I'm someone who's always in favor of never giving credit for a fighter who just goes in there to clinch into mostly lay n pray. Thought that's pretty much what I saw when I watched most of the first two rounds before just turning it off because it was a god awful fight. Don't care to look at the punch stats but Rampage musta landed maybe 6 strikes in the first two rounds combined.

On the other hand, the one random thing I read about his opponent before the fight was an interview where an excerpt was "I am doing this because I want to be a famous fighter." That was definitely not the way to approach it there guy. Even if you probably deserved the decision (real decision shoulda been 'fight sucked too much, you guys both lose') for a non-fight.



The reason i cannot watch WWE and i love mma is its REAL, its not a show, its a real fights. I believe fighters should be allowed to fight with whatever style they want, and if that style happens to be boring, he should still be allowed to have fair judging.

Of course, if a fighter is really boring all the time, he can expect to get paid less than the super entertaining ones. This is why Conor got paid more than Aldo ever did.

Imo, the reason the first 2 rounds were boring is not because of Ishii, its actually because of Jackson. His inability to do anything is what made it boring.
And i'm getting sick of judges who have no idea about MMA. Making this fight a 30-27 for Jackson just shows judge have no fucking idea what they are watching.
I really wish the UFC/Bellator could have their own judges.

Round 2 wasn't as clear cut as round 1, but i think it still clearly goes to Ishii.

james9994: make note dont play against floofy, ;(Last edit: 25/06/2016 16:47

 



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