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NewbSaibot   United States. Jun 04 2016 04:36. Posts 4744

I'm going to post a series of hand histories from what I believed to be a solid reg to determine if I should be adjusting my read on him entirely based upon these observations. These hands were all played out in less than an hour, so probably with 15 hands of each other. Last night the 5/10 table broke and what I've considered to be a solid player sits across from me at my 2/5 game. I've played a couple of hours with him before and never seen him make any gross plays, tends to raise premiums preflop and just value bet when he hits.

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Is it time I reverse my decision on this guy? I doubt I'll ever play him that often since he's usually hanging out at 5/10 PLO, but this just has to do with making quick reads on people in general. I dont think he's like your standard limp any 2 kind of fish, but he still seems to be playing pretty bad in these hands. Under normal circumstances I just silently whisper to myself "game fuckin' on" when I see this type of action. As indicated at the start of this thread he more or less seems to play decent hands, nothing fancy, but maybe he's just kinda run good from the few times I have seen him. Last night someone was talking about how he lost a 9k pot at 5/10 NLHE against a whale when the reg rivered trips. Just from that one single mention I kinda raised an eyebrow since like, how do you lose nearly 500BB rivering trips.

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listening to edzwoo has made u a nit... *sigh* - ZalforLast edit: 04/06/2016 04:41

SleepyHead   . Jun 04 2016 09:42. Posts 784

Sounds like every single live reg in socal.

I think donking on low multi way flops is A OK

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jun 04 2016 11:47. Posts 7641

H1 He has plenty of hands that play like that like A5s,A6s 77 88 etc. , but think AQo s a decent call there, hand he bet is absurd lol
H2 is foldable after the shove by him, especially considering the hand you hold.
H4 depends on the board

Overall considering H1 and 2, I doubt the guy is even close to decent, however I doubt he would spew, seems like a the typical 50/20 loose passive fish that takes occasional 1street stabs in dumb spots

 Last edit: 04/06/2016 11:47

casinocasino   Canada. Jun 05 2016 04:42. Posts 3249

Everything seems good/standard out of villain. The Q4s call closing the action with like 6:1 odds?
The small strattle raise is 2.5x what's possibly fishy about it? I think it'd a good adjustment if most of your table is still short around 500 or less. And lastly 1/4 pot bets in multi way pots seem super standard to me in many spots

Whats even the question?


traxamillion   United States. Jun 05 2016 05:35. Posts 10217


  On June 05 2016 03:42 casinocasino wrote:

And lastly 1/4 pot bets in multi way pots seem super standard to me in many spots




I don't disagree, there are appropriate situations for it but u wanna give an example. i think h4 we would need to see the board to know how good/bad it is


traxamillion   United States. Jun 05 2016 05:37. Posts 10217

nvmd

 Last edit: 05/06/2016 05:39

NewbSaibot   United States. Jun 05 2016 15:05. Posts 4744


  On June 05 2016 03:42 casinocasino wrote:
Everything seems good/standard out of villain. The Q4s call closing the action with like 6:1 odds?
The small strattle raise is 2.5x what's possibly fishy about it? I think it'd a good adjustment if most of your table is still short around 500 or less. And lastly 1/4 pot bets in multi way pots seem super standard to me in many spots

Whats even the question?



I just thought all the weak bets vs calling stations and playing equally weak hands yourself was the mark of a fish.

listening to edzwoo has made u a nit... *sigh* - Zalfor 

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jun 05 2016 17:25. Posts 7641

I only dislike his QJo stab
H2 and 3 are stnd, 4 depending on the board might be bad


JohnnyBologna   United States. Jun 08 2016 22:45. Posts 1384

being as you see 30-45 hands an hour live the hands you see live will be different from online. this is looser than your average player, but i would say that is him being a more experienced than on the fishy side.

bet sizings should not be fixed,but adjusted to table dynamics and the players. seeing as how loose he is preflop opening QJo utg, he doesnt want to raise too much as hes opening a wide range preflop.

the Q4 hand meh. ive seen good regulars that play K rag suited and Q rag suited in similar situations as yours where they stack a lower flush. i was kind curious about this too but wasnt too sure. i guess 2nd and third nuts are pretty strong live cuz a lot of people are playing more suited junk.

the donk bet is a weird one too, it has happened to me before where there was a flush draw on the board. i had nothing of course but it was like 5 way and he donked 30 into 100 something. this guy is considered the best PLO in the room that has been crushing for hundreds of thousands of dollars too. but he sat down at my 2/5 NLH game lol. if he does it then there must be some logic to it.
obv they must be balancing this with super made hands and draws/mediocre hands.

where are you playing? the hardrock in tampa?

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NMcNasty    United States. Jun 10 2016 04:57. Posts 1780

Nothing glaringly wrong without more info. Definitely calling pre hand 1 from the button and if anything I'm playing flop/turn more aggressively.


 





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