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2016 Chicago Poker Classic Event #1 Day 1

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K40Cheddar   United States. Mar 06 2016 02:59. Posts 2113

Hello Liquid Poker,

I am planning in competing in about 4-5 events in this series held at the Horseshoe casino in Hammond Indiana (near Chicago). This is the first time I have ever participated in live large field tournaments until I take a shot at some WSOP events this summer. I generally strictly play cash games and may have a few questions over the next few weeks regarding some tournament poker situations. I will try to provide as much information as possible and hope to get some feedback regarding how I could play some of these situations better.

Event #1 - No limit Holdem $360 buy-in. 6 day 1s, combined for day 2. Playing in heat Day 1E. Approx 2-2.2k entrants combined. 582 effective entrants on day 1E. 48 move on to day 2. Approximately 150 remain on this current day.

Blinds: level 11 - 800/1600 ante 200
My stack: approx 29,000 effective.

Situation: recently forced to change tables due to breakdowns. At new table, 0 history on anyone at table.

Hero in BB dealt KdQc

Action folds to BTN who makes it 3500. BTN stack probably around 65,000 or more. Have not seen much but he used this sizing multiple times. Chubby dude probably like 30-35 with a hat. (Probably doesn't mean anything)

Question 1: Do you 3bet here with the intent of getting it in? Do you flat and see the flop? (I figured 24,000 would be approximate danger zone stack size where it's shove/fold)

Hero decides to call.

Flop: AhKd2h

Villain bets 3500. Hero calls. (don't think anyone here is doing anything else)

Turn: Qd

Villain bets 6100. Question 2: Hero ???

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traxamillion   United States. Mar 06 2016 05:03. Posts 10239

I think I like to jam here

Edit: talking pre, not as played

 Last edit: 07/03/2016 21:13

fira   United States. Mar 06 2016 05:03. Posts 6199

im not very familiar with tourneys and shorter stack play but a general rule i tend to follow in tourneys (dunno if good or not) is to protect my hand more often when possible, because getting outdrawn for your tourney life really sucks, as opposed to just losing a stack in cash games. so i'd prob jam here. if he has us crushed, money's going in on a brick river anyway. by jamming we get to protect our hand versus random draws and Ax, which i'd say outweighs the benefits of calling and hoping he bluffs river, even if the latter has higher EV? since survival is so crucial in tourneys

seize the day 

traxamillion   United States. Mar 06 2016 05:05. Posts 10239

Yea the benefit of jamming is some Ax that would otherwise call/resteal just Has to fold.

No doubt jam is +ev, not sure if some other line might be a little better at ur particular table


TimDawg    United States. Mar 06 2016 18:18. Posts 10150

flatting pre is fine. if you were to 3bet, i think you're going to want to 3bet/fold to a jam vs most opponents

hand is played well up to this point. just continue to call on the turn and going to be calling off on most rivers

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball 

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Mar 06 2016 21:23. Posts 7701

3bet/fold with 18bb effective stack ??? we d need 25%ish equity to call a shove... nvm actually less than 25% due to the ante

as played im shoving, i dont want to lose value to an Ax that will call a shove but xback river or let him draw for free

 Last edit: 06/03/2016 21:27

traxamillion   United States. Mar 06 2016 23:35. Posts 10239


  On March 06 2016 17:18 TimDawg wrote:
flatting pre is fine. if you were to 3bet, i think you're going to want to 3bet/fold to a jam vs most opponents

hand is played well up to this point. just continue to call on the turn and going to be calling off on most rivers



3bet fold is atrocious

you will be folding a flip much of the time


TimDawg    United States. Mar 07 2016 02:45. Posts 10150


  On March 06 2016 22:35 traxamillion wrote:
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3bet fold is atrocious

you will be folding a flip much of the time

it's probably slightly better than 3bet/call off at these stacks. Ideally, I'm talking about a situation where we have more around the 20-22bb range. At 18bb's, I suppose we could just jam and it would be OK. I still prefer flat over all options

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinballLast edit: 07/03/2016 05:49

K40Cheddar   United States. Mar 11 2016 07:32. Posts 2113

Thanks for the advice all.

I called preflop because I didn't want to reraise fold with a hand this strong and didn't feel like I was shallow enough to want to get it in. As played, I jammed the turn thinking that he could have Ax or a draw. Turns out he had JcTc. At least I had outs. Wasn't really disappointed with how I played it just wanted to see what others thought.

GG 

traxamillion   United States. Mar 12 2016 03:14. Posts 10239

flat k10 jam this imo


CrownRoyal   Oman. Mar 12 2016 15:28. Posts 11367

id jam this pf for sure

resident $4 180 man sng expert who hasnt played poker in 5 yrs chiming in

WHAT IS THIS 

Ryan Neilly   United States. Mar 27 2016 10:59. Posts 1113

id just jam to simplify the scenario, QK does much better in shallow MTTs than deep cg's thats for sure.


 





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