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traxamillion   United States. Mar 06 2016 05:03. Posts 10468 | | |
I think I like to jam here
Edit: talking pre, not as played |
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fira   United States. Mar 06 2016 05:03. Posts 6345 | | |
im not very familiar with tourneys and shorter stack play but a general rule i tend to follow in tourneys (dunno if good or not) is to protect my hand more often when possible, because getting outdrawn for your tourney life really sucks, as opposed to just losing a stack in cash games. so i'd prob jam here. if he has us crushed, money's going in on a brick river anyway. by jamming we get to protect our hand versus random draws and Ax, which i'd say outweighs the benefits of calling and hoping he bluffs river, even if the latter has higher EV? since survival is so crucial in tourneys |
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traxamillion   United States. Mar 06 2016 05:05. Posts 10468 | | |
Yea the benefit of jamming is some Ax that would otherwise call/resteal just Has to fold.
No doubt jam is +ev, not sure if some other line might be a little better at ur particular table |
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TimDawg   United States. Mar 06 2016 18:18. Posts 10197 | | |
flatting pre is fine. if you were to 3bet, i think you're going to want to 3bet/fold to a jam vs most opponents
hand is played well up to this point. just continue to call on the turn and going to be calling off on most rivers |
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Mar 06 2016 21:23. Posts 9634 | | |
3bet/fold with 18bb effective stack ??? we d need 25%ish equity to call a shove... nvm actually less than 25% due to the ante
as played im shoving, i dont want to lose value to an Ax that will call a shove but xback river or let him draw for free |
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traxamillion   United States. Mar 06 2016 23:35. Posts 10468 | | |
| On March 06 2016 17:18 TimDawg wrote:
flatting pre is fine. if you were to 3bet, i think you're going to want to 3bet/fold to a jam vs most opponents
hand is played well up to this point. just continue to call on the turn and going to be calling off on most rivers |
3bet fold is atrocious
you will be folding a flip much of the time |
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TimDawg   United States. Mar 07 2016 02:45. Posts 10197 | | |
| On March 06 2016 22:35 traxamillion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2016 17:18 TimDawg wrote:
flatting pre is fine. if you were to 3bet, i think you're going to want to 3bet/fold to a jam vs most opponents
hand is played well up to this point. just continue to call on the turn and going to be calling off on most rivers |
3bet fold is atrocious
you will be folding a flip much of the time
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it's probably slightly better than 3bet/call off at these stacks. Ideally, I'm talking about a situation where we have more around the 20-22bb range. At 18bb's, I suppose we could just jam and it would be OK. I still prefer flat over all options |
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K40Cheddar   United States. Mar 11 2016 07:32. Posts 2202 | | |
Thanks for the advice all.
I called preflop because I didn't want to reraise fold with a hand this strong and didn't feel like I was shallow enough to want to get it in. As played, I jammed the turn thinking that he could have Ax or a draw. Turns out he had JcTc. At least I had outs. Wasn't really disappointed with how I played it just wanted to see what others thought. |
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traxamillion   United States. Mar 12 2016 03:14. Posts 10468 | | |
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CrownRoyal   United States. Mar 12 2016 15:28. Posts 11385 | | |
id jam this pf for sure
resident $4 180 man sng expert who hasnt played poker in 5 yrs chiming in |
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Ryan Neilly   United States. Mar 27 2016 10:59. Posts 1631 | | |
id just jam to simplify the scenario, QK does much better in shallow MTTs than deep cg's thats for sure. |
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