UFC on FOX 18: Johnson vs. Bader

Welp, this is my last betting card before my 4 month break due to my usual uni studies, so of course I lose every bet that mattered.

No bet on the main card, so I'll call it a day.

BIG BEEEEEEEEEEEN NICE :D

wow got raped in that fight

broke even in this event.

Put a good size bet on the over 1.5 rounds for the main event...

On January 23 2016 04:19 Floofy wrote: Show nested quote + On January 22 2016 19:02 PuertoRican wrote: Andrew Holbrook is injured, and is out of his fight against Sage Northcutt. Bryan Barberena will replace Holbrook. Barberena vs. Northcutt will be at welterweight, not lightweight. Barberena was originally scheduled to fight Jonavin Webb at welterweight on February 21, 2016. wait what? this is big imo. Barberena is no joke, no joke at all.

Knew it, i wish i did more DK teams with him.

On January 19 2016 16:00 alejandicto wrote: AJ by KO definitely (-245) and maybe Rothwell ITD (+271)

Fuck I didnt bet on Rothwell ITD : (

On January 30 2016 16:18 alejandicto wrote: Anthony Jhonson in round 1 (+170) looks great to me

I won some money at least

Northcutt's jiu jitsu is fucking bad wtf. Maybe he's just really nervous? He just rushes through everything.

I really like Barnett's standup lately, his guard is excellent I think... Too bad he went for that shot.

^^ northcutt doesn't have JBJ confidence yet. I think he'll still improve after this silly loss though

Ben Rothwell costs me money yet again. Can't believe that he was able to tap Barnett, stupid from Josh also to go for that takedown, while winning on the feet and it looked like almost completely ignored the threat from that choke.

Sage Northcutt got exposed , but the guy is still only 19 with ton of potential, so if he gets himself in a good camp I think the future is bright for him. I think he just panicked after the fight got rougher and gave up. He will learn from that loss, but his heart will always be questioned after tapping like this in halfguard.

Up a little bit from the event thanks to Rivera and Tarec. Feel a little stupid in hindsight that I didn't hammer Rumble at -230 at one point at betfair, but decided to pass on betting this fight. Bader performance was really bad, holding that kimura after getting his takedown stuffed for so long and getting mounted in the process was really terrible. I just don't understand wtf he was thinking.

On January 31 2016 10:45 TianYuan wrote: Northcutt's jiu jitsu is fucking bad wtf. Maybe he's just really nervous? He just rushes through everything. I really like Barnett's standup lately, his guard is excellent I think... Too bad he went for that shot.

Dunno, I watched him lose a grappling match to some 13 year old kid when Sage was 17, so two years ago. Just think his grappling isn't very good yet.

Didn't bet on Sage but had him in a cpl parlays and knew those were pretty fucked really early on as I watched Sage expend energy frantically in just the first and second minute on useless things like an inexperienced fighter does a lot. Like trying to jump on Barberana's back kind of from the side with no avenue to lock up a hold or anything. Obviously it was going to come up sooner or later that he'd be in a real fight where his athleticism doesn't just take out his opponent on the first cpl flurries but I didn't think he'd react/fight so poorly following his first realization that he can't outright control a fist fight within a minute.

Still 19 and so much time to be better. People seem to forget that Conor didn't come to the UFC and wreck shit as a 20 year old finished product. But you could never really question Conor's fighting mentality. Not so much here. Not just the quick tap. Few other things that stink of a kid just out there 'competing' in something because he's pretty good at it instead of fighting for his life. Was hoping for the UFC's sake that a killer of some sort was lying underneath that exterior but apparently not. Hopefully they do the right thing and keep him on the shelf for awhile and not just throw him back in there with bums that he'll take care of but won't learn anything from. He needs time to get his head straight, ditch his weird dad as his head trainer (I have no clue why fighters still do this. Never works in boxing, never works in MMA, never will work), and go learn and work out at a real, pro gym for awhile

On February 01 2016 04:08 iakim322 wrote: Didn't bet on Sage but had him in a cpl parlays and knew those were pretty fucked really early on as I watched Sage expend energy frantically in just the first and second minute on useless things like an inexperienced fighter does a lot. Like trying to jump on Barberana's back kind of from the side with no avenue to lock up a hold or anything. Obviously it was going to come up sooner or later that he'd be in a real fight where his athleticism doesn't just take out his opponent on the first cpl flurries but I didn't think he'd react/fight so poorly following his first realization that he can't outright control a fist fight within a minute. Still 19 and so much time to be better. People seem to forget that Conor didn't come to the UFC and wreck shit as a 20 year old finished product. But you could never really question Conor's fighting mentality. Not so much here. Not just the quick tap. Few other things that stink of a kid just out there 'competing' in something because he's pretty good at it instead of fighting for his life. Was hoping for the UFC's sake that a killer of some sort was lying underneath that exterior but apparently not. Hopefully they do the right thing and keep him on the shelf for awhile and not just throw him back in there with bums that he'll take care of but won't learn anything from. He needs time to get his head straight, ditch his weird dad as his head trainer (I have no clue why fighters still do this. Never works in boxing, never works in MMA, never will work), and go learn and work out at a real, pro gym for awhile

Joe & Enzo Calzaghe would beg to differ. And I think Felix Trinidad was coached by his father for most of his career (the successful parts at least)?

the most successful Boxer of our time is has also being coached by his father all his life...

Everybody discuss how Sage didn't live up to the hype

Why can't anyone consider Barberona was way underrated, and Sage's excuse of being sick was legit?

When Sage was facing Holbrok, i thought he was a decent bet, but as soon i saw his replacement, i knew Sage was an horrible bet.

On February 02 2016 03:15 Baalim wrote: the most successful Boxer of our time is has also being coached by his father all his life...

Forgot about that since he had some periods of being trained by Jeff and Roger Mayweather as well.

Zab Judah had a fairly successful career and was also trained by his father. Anyway, not super rare as we can see :0

Jeff barely trained Floyd. And that might be overstating it. His father did train and bring him up but he was gone by the time anyone even really knew who Floyd was. In the 12+ years that Floyd was in the spotlight, Roger was his only trainer for probably 10.5 of them. His father wasn't even apart of his team for a very long time and then started coming in and out...sometimes just to add extra hype to Floyd's pre-fight stuff. And then brought in 'full time' in more recent years when Floyd was basically training himself. Roger still family though obviously and they all have good credentials as trainers so good point I guess.

Enzo is the true legit one. Forgot about him. He actually had multiple legit successes beyond Joe and actually downplayed the father-son training dynamic if anything.

Most of Zab's high profile fights weren't with his father and besides, his father was/is borderline retarded. Trinidad is a decent one except...a little in hindsight...everyone in boxing was saying for years how he stunted his potential by not breaking off for a real trainer earlier instead of relying on the same thing (left hook KO gg) every fight.

For every one of these though, there were/are like eight others that failed miserably. I guess you can only truly say it about the fighters that actually have the potential for the top level because you'd likely never know there was a deficiency in some others. But well, at least physically...Sage can be up there. And his father so far reeks of that aging mother who sprints around the country toting her 6 yr old daughter at beauty contests.

Oh hey problem kinda solved.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/2/2/1...e-at-tristar-gym-following-ufc-on-fox


Oh and Danny Garcia + father is a modern day 'success' in boxing

All these father son comparisons in boxing are different. Most of those guys dads were legit boxers and legit trainers.

Most of the guys who have their dads train them in MMA, their dads taught them karate and they know fuck all about MMA and actual competition.

On February 04 2016 03:36 Stim_Abuser wrote: All these father son comparisons in boxing are different. Most of those guys dads were legit boxers and legit trainers. Most of the guys who have their dads train them in MMA, their dads taught them karate and they know fuck all about MMA and actual competition.

That's why I brought up Joe Calzhage since his dad was a jazz musician with 0 boxing knowledge but somehow decided he could learn how to coach boxing (and as it turns out, he was right)