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traxamillion   United States. Jan 04 2016 08:49. Posts 10217

my first orbit at the table, villain (LP) is young talkative asian kid sitting on 200-250bb. I am sitting with 100

EP opens 10, I call, LP call, BB call

Flop 9c 6c 3s (pot $38)

BB checks, EP checks, I bet 25, LP raises to 60, BB fold, EP fold, I call

Turn 9c 6c 3s 6d (pot $158)

I check, LP bets 60, I call

River 9c 6c 3s 6d Ks (pot $278)

I check, LP bets 185, I ?

I have been getting crushed lately live so time to check some spots i would otherwise consider standard.

Wettest flop every into the brickest runout possible... can they be bluffing ever ?? (25%)

I have my best calling hand here blocking the 9 (better than holding 1010 here obv)

I mean holy shit i lose to 3 combos of 33, 1 combo 66, 1 99, 1 96ss combo and that is it. Don't think he rivers a king after raising a flushdraw or something and vbets like this. May have K9 in the range but not sure probably have to discount it some given the pre/flop/turn line.

Even if he only raises and bombs flushdraw&gutshot+ that is 5 bluffing combos to balance out the vbets and allow me a breakeven or +ev call (not that i actually expect to face this tight of a strat but who knows). But does he even fire river? sometimes i wonder if some live players ever bluff at all...

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traxamillion   United States. Jan 04 2016 08:50. Posts 10217

just be glad his betsizing wasn't better and he didn't get more?


casinocasino   Canada. Jan 04 2016 18:09. Posts 3249

I think you can find a fold here for sure. I think the small turn bet followed by a river bet is almost always a indication of value.


Stim_Abuser   United States. Jan 04 2016 23:02. Posts 7498

It's going to be very rare that a draw would bet $60 on that turn while in position. More often than not live this is a FH trying to enticing draws to call. On the river, he's checking back any value hand you beat almost always since the draw missed. Pretty easy fold.

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete 

traxamillion   United States. Jan 05 2016 07:25. Posts 10217

So i just never call this river without a boat then?

 Last edit: 05/01/2016 07:26

traxamillion   United States. Jan 09 2016 02:10. Posts 10217

jk

 Last edit: 09/01/2016 06:49

traxamillion   United States. Jan 11 2016 17:38. Posts 10217

Where pooruser's post go?

He said gj pre, awful post. Correct?


traxamillion   United States. Jan 11 2016 17:38. Posts 10217

Like checking flop then or what


YoMeR   United States. Jan 18 2016 06:17. Posts 12338

ez fold as strong as QQ here. depends a lot on villain tho. he sounds like a nit. so i fold

eZ Life. 

JohnnyBologna   United States. Jan 18 2016 09:55. Posts 1384

with an open of 10 this is essentially a limped pot. guy raises you with four people in the pot. two very bad signs for your hand being just one pair. unless he is one of those guys that to hang himself raising pots 4 way without the goods.

it might seem nitty but im for a fold on the flop right after you put a bet to see where your hand was and he raised you. Save so much more money this way in the future.

By doing a little bit at a time, a lot can be done 

JohnnyBologna   United States. Jan 18 2016 09:56. Posts 1384

anyways keep the hands coming!

By doing a little bit at a time, a lot can be done 

traxamillion   United States. Jan 18 2016 10:11. Posts 10217

given the ranges involved I think A9 is clearly a much better call than any overpair 1010-AA; pretty much boated or i'm good; maybe some spazz flop raise with 6x 1/100 scenarios or K9 1/1000 but I think he never has an overpair- he will always reraise pre vs the minopen

 Last edit: 18/01/2016 10:14

traxamillion   United States. Jan 18 2016 10:19. Posts 10217

I'm not saying this isn't a fold though; should prob just dump river given he ain't bluffing much especially this way. All i'm saying is that if i ever call without a boat this is the hand. I would much rather block a ton of his most likely value combos than have a slight increase in the absolute strength of my hand versus what is a clearly polarized range.


4TM   United States. Jan 19 2016 00:58. Posts 695

I like flop fold. His bluffs have great equity (some will even be slight favorites) and his value hands have us mostly dead. Almost no one goes crazy bluffing in these spots so I wouldn't worry about getting bulldozed.


traxamillion   United States. Jan 19 2016 09:06. Posts 10217


  On January 18 2016 23:58 4TM wrote:
I like flop fold. His bluffs have great equity (some will even be slight favorites) and his value hands have us mostly dead. Almost no one goes crazy bluffing in these spots so I wouldn't worry about getting bulldozed.



yea was thinking that might just be the answer


SleepyHead   . Jan 25 2016 07:44. Posts 784

Yeah just fold the flop and move on. I also disagree that your average live player is going to 3bet 1010-QQ vs a min raise

How do you have a full house wtf - traxamillion 

fira   United States. Mar 05 2016 04:02. Posts 6199

i agree with fold flop too, he raising right after u with 2 behind datz like wtf top set with nut flush draw and backdoor nut flush draw. it cant be terrible mistake to call tho cos so small... but riv i prob fold it looks too stronk after the flop action

i dont agree that the turn bet size says anything... rly standard turn sizing on that card boats aint wanna bet large and fold out draws n draws dont wanna bet large drawing dead etc and he repping boats and combodraws he aint gonna smash the turn with like 87c

seize the day 

 





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