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UFC 194: Aldo vs. McGregor

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whamm!   Albania. Dec 14 2015 00:59. Posts 11625

Conor predicts how it goes down, the bike part was just lol, the guy havin fun riding a gay ass bike while aldo wanting to murder him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wZac2KWo-Us

UFC control room - Joe saying Aldo looked soft and deflated
http://webmshare.com/play/Mnn7O

https://giant.gfycat.com/WhimsicalDeepHoopoe.gif

 Last edit: 14/12/2015 01:02

cariadon   Estonia. Dec 14 2015 11:44. Posts 4019

Rockhold Weidman was very intense. Spectacular fight with very interesting transitions and submission attempts, clinch and striking.

Aldo v Conor, it was a legit fight and if you zergrush someone and get caught there are no excuses to be made. I really like that Conor plays with distance and angles yet being patient and calm. Kind of reminds me of Carlsen in chess.


wongfeihung   United States. Dec 14 2015 18:52. Posts 48


  On December 13 2015 15:20 K40Cheddar wrote:
Just wanted to point out that two ufc champs lost that night and Golden State warriors got their 24-0 streak broken. Coincidence!?!?!?


Half-Life 3 confirmed?!


alejandicto   . Dec 14 2015 19:43. Posts 865

LOL


Floofy   Canada. Dec 15 2015 00:18. Posts 8708


  On December 14 2015 10:44 cariadon wrote:
Rockhold Weidman was very intense. Spectacular fight with very interesting transitions and submission attempts, clinch and striking.

Aldo v Conor, it was a legit fight and if you zergrush someone and get caught there are no excuses to be made. I really like that Conor plays with distance and angles yet being patient and calm. Kind of reminds me of Carlsen in chess.



If you sucessfully zerg rush a player much better than you are, it does not "prove" that you are a superior player. It does count, but its possible for a weaker player to beat a better one with a zerg rush.

Would you say Ray Mercer is, whitout a doubt, a better fighter than Tim Sylvia at the moment they fought together? I really don't think so. Mercer caught Sylvia with something, it happens.

We have seen before people getting caught, and then dominating the next fight. See JDS vs Cain, or GSP vs Serra.

Aldo got caught. It does hint that Conor is probably better, but the fight didn't last long enough to prove anything. Current line for Aldo vs Conor, Conor is only -160, which is proof this fight didn't change odds much.

james9994: make note dont play against floofy, ;(Last edit: 15/12/2015 00:20

impact69   Mexico. Dec 16 2015 08:31. Posts 307

Looks like a lot of people are suspicious of Aldo's looks on the fight. Maybe steroids ..


lucky331   . Dec 16 2015 12:12. Posts 1124


  On December 13 2015 23:59 whamm! wrote:
Conor predicts how it goes down, the bike part was just lol, the guy havin fun riding a gay ass bike while aldo wanting to murder him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wZac2KWo-Us



LOL!

so... who next for mcgregor?


cariadon   Estonia. Dec 16 2015 16:59. Posts 4019

Interesting interview with Lorenzo UFCs ceo and chairman on Bloomberg.. he said athletes like Conor and Rousey earn well into the millions and either of them can be the first 100 mil fighter in UFC... impressive. Any verification to that? What they earn and how much UFC makes per night. Puertorican ?


Floofy   Canada. Dec 18 2015 03:23. Posts 8708


  On December 16 2015 11:12 lucky331 wrote:
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LOL!

so... who next for mcgregor?


Cowboy if he wins
otherwise probably Edgar

Pretty sure Conor/UFC rooting hard for Cowboy.

In b4 the referee tries to make Cowboy win xD

james9994: make note dont play against floofy, ;( 

whamm!   Albania. Dec 18 2015 15:18. Posts 11625


  On December 16 2015 11:12 lucky331 wrote:
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LOL!

so... who next for mcgregor?


I watched that Edgar would get the shot, seems fair. I would like Conor to move up to lightweight but first do some can crushing first. That division is a snuff movie


Floofy   Canada. Dec 19 2015 02:07. Posts 8708


  On December 18 2015 14:18 whamm! wrote:
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I watched that Edgar would get the shot, seems fair. I would like Conor to move up to lightweight but first do some can crushing first. That division is a snuff movie



Conor wants to switch between Feather/Lightweight title defenses and hold both belt, so he doesn't want to crush all decent 145 just yet

james9994: make note dont play against floofy, ;( 

Baalim   Mexico. Dec 19 2015 06:19. Posts 34246

How in the fuck is fair that Edgar gets a shot instead of Aldo getting a rematch?

He was the longest reigning champ, the best P4P and got caught in the opening seconds so basically we still have no idea what happens in a fight between those two, a rematch also makes much more money and I think its a HUGE disrespect to Aldo, I mean its no mistery that Dana doesnt like Brazilian champs because they are usually not marketable but this is ridiculous.

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Floofy   Canada. Dec 19 2015 07:03. Posts 8708


  On December 19 2015 05:19 Baalim wrote:
How in the fuck is fair that Edgar gets a shot instead of Aldo getting a rematch?

He was the longest reigning champ, the best P4P and got caught in the opening seconds so basically we still have no idea what happens in a fight between those two, a rematch also makes much more money and I think its a HUGE disrespect to Aldo, I mean its no mistery that Dana doesnt like Brazilian champs because they are usually not marketable but this is ridiculous.



I personally would prefer to see Conor/Aldo 2, over Conor/Edgar. Not sure what the casuals prefer.

james9994: make note dont play against floofy, ;( 

soberstone   United States. Dec 19 2015 19:40. Posts 2662

I'm not a casual and I have more of a desire to see Frankie get his shot because I think he's in a better place mentally and I wanna see how the styles match-up. I'm also a huge Frankie fan so I'm biased. It's not about what's 'fair' because really, its not 'fair' to either Edgar or Aldo to not get it. Sure, Cain is getting a bullshit rematch comparatively speaking and I'd agree with that, but even in that situation there wasn't a clear-cut #1 waiting. The Rousey situation isn't even comparable, they have to make the re-match from a business perspective and there isn't a clear-cut #1 there either. I'm a huge Weidman fan but if they gave him a rematch over Romero, that's where I'd have a real problem.

Ultimately gonna be about whatever they think is the best monetary play, which involves the casual fans, and that's gonna be Edgar, Cowboy, or RDA if he cuts a good promo and doesn't look TOO good tonight, if you know what I mean - I doubt McGregor is afraid to fight anyone but the brass might still not want him facing a robot. 100 percent it will not be Aldo, so may as well just get over it. All he needs to do is beat somebody and he'll have his re-match, hes not that old. I think they should make him vs Holloway and I'd love to bet Holloway if hes a big dog in a 5-round fight vs Aldo.

I think that the biggest money fight imaginable is McGregor vs an Anthony Pettis coming off of a couple impeccable highlight performances (he'll probably have one vs Alvarez, so if Diaz pulls out the 'W', it's all set-up), with RDA sinking so that everyone can kind of write off that performance to juice (which would be sad, it was so good and clearly not just because of steroids, if at all). I'm not saying this is what I want, I just think it's what they'll be aiming for down the road.

So it looks like this, ideal business situation:

McGregor > Cerrone, Edgar

Pettis > Alvarez, Diaz

McGregor vs Pettis in 1 year from now.

Don't expect it to work out that way but if it did, I wouldn't complain. Even if they just are lucky enough to get to where its Pettis vs Diaz, and McGregor is waiting for the winner of that, they are already in a huge Win-Win scenario should Diaz happen to pull off that massive upset.

 Last edit: 19/12/2015 19:45

Baalim   Mexico. Dec 20 2015 01:08. Posts 34246

No way in hell Edgar vs McGregor sells more than Aldo vs McGregor 2, aldo pulls a lot of Brazilian money and Edgar has never been a big draw.

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flounder44   United States. Dec 20 2015 01:42. Posts 916

^ dont matter, as long as conor in the card the numbers stay and his numbers only go up from here


alejandicto   . Dec 21 2015 22:18. Posts 865

Aldo's manager should make a better job and demand a rematch. Aldo deserves it


Raidern   Brasil. Dec 22 2015 04:45. Posts 4243

meh man he got koed in 13s, i wouldn't grant him a rematch. actually i think immediate rematches are very very boring. Aldo should earn his titleshot back imo even if only a single win is necessary.

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alejandicto   . Dec 23 2015 01:12. Posts 865

Aldo has been the only champion for years and seemed invincible, he got caught. Of course he deserves a rematch, he was the number one p4p.


TianYuan    Korea (South). Dec 23 2015 01:48. Posts 6817

He deserves a rematch but I think it's for the best that he doesn't get one.

He had been out for a long time before this fight, and it ended in 13 seconds, I think a tune-up fight is in order just to

1) Re-establish to people how good he is.
2) Shake off ring rust
3) Not put the division on hold while waiting for him to get cleared to train/fight (I assume a KO like that comes with a medical suspension).

Plus I dont want to see a Barao/TJ or Anderson/Weidman repeat...


 
Ultimately gonna be about whatever they think is the best monetary play, which involves the casual fans, and that's gonna be Edgar, Cowboy, or RDA if he cuts a good promo and doesn't look TOO good tonight, if you know what I mean - I doubt McGregor is afraid to fight anyone but the brass might still not want him facing a robot. 100 percent it will not be Aldo, so may as well just get over it. All he needs to do is beat somebody and he'll have his re-match, hes not that old. I think they should make him vs Holloway and I'd love to bet Holloway if hes a big dog in a 5-round fight vs Aldo.



I don't want to see Aldo vs Holloway yet... I think Aldo wins, but either outcome will make another big fight less likely to happen (Aldo vs McG2 and Holloway vs McG2 are fights I want to see both). I want Aldo vs someone softer tbh, tune up fight. I guess there's not a whole bunch of options for that... Lamas or Swanson rematch maybe.

Hm.. Off-suite socks..Last edit: 23/12/2015 01:53

 
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