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When you DL Bovada HH they display the holecard information of all players at the table regardless of action (anti-collusion measure). When i use the hand converter to turn Zone HH into ZOOM hh that are compatible with PT4 they lose the holecard data.
My hope was that I could go into PT4 and look up hands where i folded and see what my opponent had rather than manually digging through HH files.
Is this possible?
example.
unconverted bovada HH (one with opponent showing his cards at showdown, the 2nd i fold and he doesn't have to show)
Bovada Hand #3279914547: OMAHA Tournament #13536253 TBL#1, Pot Limit- Level 1 (10/20) - 2015-10-14 03:08:52
Seat 1: Dealer [ME] (1,380 in chips)
Seat 2: Big Blind (1,620 in chips)
Dealer [ME] : Set dealer/Bring in spot [1]
Dealer [ME] : Ante/Small blind 10
Big Blind : Big blind/Bring in 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealer [ME] : Card dealt to a spot [2s 6d 2c 4d]
Big Blind : Card dealt to a spot [Kd Ah 5s Kh]
Dealer [ME] : Raises 50 to 60
Big Blind : Raises 160 to 180
Dealer [ME] : Call 120
*** FLOP *** [2h 6c 4s]
Big Blind : Bets 360
Dealer [ME] : Call 360
*** TURN *** [2h 6c 4s] 
Big Blind : All-in 1080
Dealer [ME] : All-in 840
Big Blind : Return uncalled portion of bet 240
*** RIVER *** [2h 6c 4s Jc] 
Dealer [ME] : Showdown [2s 2c 2h Jc 8c] (Three of a kind)
Big Blind : Showdown [Kd Kh 6c Jc 8c] (One pair)
Dealer [ME] : Hand Result 2760
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot(2760)
Board [2h 6c 4s Jc 8c]
Seat+1: Dealer 2760 with Three of a kind [2s 6d 2c 4d-2s 2c 2h Jc 8c]
Seat+2: Big Blind lose with One pair [Kd Ah 5s Kh-Kd Kh 6c Jc 8c]
Bovada Hand #3279914545: OMAHA Tournament #13536253 TBL#1, Pot Limit- Level 1 (10/20) - 2015-10-14 03:08:04
Seat 1: Dealer [ME] (1,500 in chips)
Seat 2: Big Blind (1,500 in chips)
Dealer [ME] : Table enter user
Big Blind : Table enter user
Dealer [ME] : Draw for dealer 
Big Blind : Draw for dealer 
Dealer [ME] : Set dealer/Bring in spot [1]
Dealer [ME] : Ante/Small blind 10
Big Blind : Big blind/Bring in 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealer [ME] : Card dealt to a spot [Ac 4c 2s 7d]
Big Blind : Card dealt to a spot [7h Qd Td 5c]
Dealer [ME] : Raises 50 to 60
Big Blind : Call 40
*** FLOP *** [6s 8d Jh]
Big Blind : Bets 120
Dealer [ME] : Folds
Big Blind : Return uncalled portion of bet 120
Big Blind : Does not show [7h Qd Td 5c] (High Card)
Big Blind : Hand Result 120
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot(120)
Board [6s 8d Jh ]
Seat+1: Dealer Folded on the FLOP
Seat+2: Big Blind 120 [Does not show]
Converted HH Counterparts to the above hands that get imported into PT4
PokerStars Hand #3279914547: Tournament #13536253, $50+$2.50 - Omaha Pot Limit (10/20) - 2015/10/14 3:08:52
Table '#1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (1,380 in chips)
Seat 2: PLR_7404661JJ (1,620 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 10
PLR_7404661JJ: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [2s 6d 2c 4d]
Hero: raises 50 to 60
PLR_7404661JJ: raises 160 to 180
Hero: calls 120
*** FLOP *** [2h 6c 4s]
PLR_7404661JJ: bets 360
Hero: calls 360
*** TURN *** [2h 6c 4s]
PLR_7404661JJ: calls 1080 and is all-in
Hero: calls 840 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [2h 6c 4s Jc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows [2s 6d 2c 4d] (three of a kind, Deuces)
PLR_7404661JJ: shows [Kd Ah 5s Kh] (a pair of Kings)
Uncalled bet (240) returned to PLR_7404661JJ
Hero collected 2760 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2760 | Rake 0
Board [2h 6c 4s Jc 8c]
Seat 1: Hero (button) showed [2s 6d 2c 4d] and won (2760) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 2: PLR_7404661JJ (big blind) showed [Kd Ah 5s Kh] and lost with a pair of Kings
PokerStars Hand #3279914545: Tournament #13536253, $50+$2.50 - Omaha Pot Limit (10/20) - 2015/10/14 3:08:04
Table '#1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (1,500 in chips)
Seat 2: PLR_7404661JJ (1,500 in chips)
Hero: Draw for dealer
PLR_7404661JJ: Draw for dealer
Hero: posts small blind 10
PLR_7404661JJ: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ac 4c 2s 7d]
Hero: raises 50 to 60
PLR_7404661JJ: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [6s 8d Jh]
PLR_7404661JJ: bets 120
Hero: folds
Uncalled bet (120) returned to PLR_7404661JJ
PLR_7404661JJ: doesn't show hand
PLR_7404661JJ collected 120 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 120 | Rake 0
Board [6s 8d Jh]
Seat 1: Hero (button) mucked
Seat 2: PLR_7404661JJ (big blind) won (120)
you can see especially in the last HH that after the conversion Villain hole cards are not visible at all so going into pt4 to see what people had is at this point useless (and maybe a results oriented practice in general but wouldn't you want to know if you were bluffed or not if possible?)
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nvmd pretty sure i fixed it, had to click one box in the converter program settings |
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jdmk2114 United States. Oct 21 2015 13:34. Posts 25 | | |
Does Bovada allow you to track opponent stats? I read that they have anonymous tables, meaning any notes you take will not even carry over the next time you play against that opponent, nor do they allow any tracking software. If so, do people find a way to get around this? |
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Ryan Neilly United States. Oct 21 2015 18:34. Posts 1631 | | |
you _can_ use stats at your own risk @ bovada, its in the terms of agreement no 3rd party programs, but everyone seems to use stats.
I stick to zoom, hudless, happy.  |
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Ryan Neilly United States. Oct 21 2015 18:35. Posts 1631 | | |
at 2/4+ i'll prolly use stats though since every streamer is using em (cept maria ho!) |
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jdmk2114 United States. Oct 22 2015 03:34. Posts 25 | | |
so any player that has played against me could have stats/notes on me? or just stats on yourself?
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na they can only get stats on you from that one session you are at the table with them. I only use PT4 to import my hands after a session and track my own hands |
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