getting hero called live

believe me rarely am I every trying to get donks to fold pairs of aces, and this reminds me why. Cause as absurd as that call is in my eyes; my opponent doesn't see what I see

you wont make a fish fold an ace there especially w flush missed

Yea I woulda prefered a club to drop; even though that card actually tightens my range making me more polar/likely to check back. This brick river gives me ez vbets with all better aces whereas a club does not.

Woulda simply lowered villain's absolute hand strength to the point he feels there are enough hands better than his to fold, as if there weren't already (even though I don't have those hands in my range he does, other than 4-5 combos)

put old asian degen on top pair.

proceed to try and make him fold it.

i don't see anyone making money with this strategy

Well I knew it was a weak top pair obv, sub A10. He wasn't a straight drooler, even bad players often fold here.

Agree fully it is generally bad to bluff guys like this and he was probably the only or one of 2 players at the table that call there. Unfortunately I did not get to choose which player I ended up in this spot with on the flop and it just seemed too obvious to pass up. Feel like a fish giving up when I know he is capped and should always fold and my only consideration is whether he actually will or not.

Was my first 3ball airball in many hours of live play. He was quite lucky to be good here KQ rly is my only bluff.

--- Nuked ---

This is fine, flip over your bluff and get called down by like 2nd pair for the rest of the night. Live players usually call way too light anyway; if they know you are capable of a big bluff? You can get value from anything you want anytime.

' everytime i run a big bluff in these low stakes games I am reminded how bad I am '

A++ broski.




DO NOT PLAY 1/2 !! put the extra money in and get the 2/5 at least live!! the rake will eat your ass up.


But yo, thats a cool story. really enjoyed it. i think its moments like these that make live poker so awesome.

For the technical aspect of the hand i think the hand ran out pretty normally if you think about it.

it all comes down to whether or not they fold the river bet. if you have a tight player then im for it. but someone who calls 24 pre with A7 doesnt seem tight to me.

you built up the pot to about 220 or something and have enough for a 75 pot bet river. normally the loose ones are gona make loose calls. i would expect him to call here a good enough time even if they know you might have A10+

long story short... i just dont think he fits the profile to challenge to a showdown without any bullets in your guns. yeah... you didnt pick the person to go up against but i think its better to just be patient and give up after flop or turn imo and wait for a better time.

On October 07 2015 16:50 HungarianGOD wrote: This is fine, flip over your bluff and get called down by like 2nd pair for the rest of the night. Live players usually call way too light anyway; if they know you are capable of a big bluff? You can get value from anything you want anytime.

+1

If you are as value heavy as you say here getting called down is really good for your image, and your range still crushes this run out for a lot of money.

hmm i think if he gets to the river like this he has to call unless he blocks the 7c. all draws missed, and he blocks pretty much your entire value range with the ace. calling the 3bet pre by him was pretty bad tho, terrible hand to play in a 3bet multiway pot

fira instead of 45 combos i have 30 when he holds the ace (of Ax value). While a significant reduction that is still a ton of value i have; most of it. Clubs are basically a non factor here because of my exploitative sb reraising range there. This is 9 handed live not HU so I am not giving anything away doing this vs randoms here. I wasn't lying about that i had KQ bluffs and that is it versus value so I think 4TM basically nailed it. The point of my play basically is to exploit his huge preflop mistake. Would be way nicer to have value here because the way this guy was snapping the first 2 streets i know what he had and he always calls the 1st 2 with Ax but the river call is much harder than the 1st 2. he also was calling quickly to try to induce me to slow down. I knew he may not fold river but I also knew what a losing call in general it would be vs me so it felt justified. I also figured he folded close to the 40% i needed; felt kind of like a coinflip honestly. He went from snapping to tanking 5 mins on river and making the most reluctant of calls.

The reason calling 3bets with A7o is bad is because of 3betting ranges such as mine constructed here. (and the subsequent postflop range disadvantages and horrible reverse implied odds)

Who the fuck care about ranges ? You're thinking way too much. It's a fish, if you think he'd call with Ax then don't bluff. What I learned about live games is that you should almost never bluff. Learned it the hard way.

trax - i see, you will exploitatively have more value hands than bluffs here so it was unfortunate you had a bluff. i guess just try to be content with the fact that most of the time you'll have the winner oh make sure u dont have any live tells though.. i kinda struggle with those

funny that the villain in spots like this always has A7o lol
like its not even A4o or A8s, just always A7o, sometimes A6o. not A8o though cause ppl don't like to play the dead man's hand.